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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
We are contemplating purchasing a Hydra Sports 230 WA. Can anyone give me
any information about the quality, ride, handling, etc of this boat. We are also looking at a Key West 2300 WA, but the dealer does not have a 2300 in stock. We looked at a 2300 WA that we found in a fenced area at a marina, but it appears that the back area of the boat is very small. Anyone know about the Key West. We also looked at a Pro Line, but that boat doesn't have good rankings with J D Powers. What would you buy? Hydra Sports, Key West, Pro Line, or Sea Pro?????? |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:38:26 GMT, "wojo" u32209@uwe wrote:
We are contemplating purchasing a Hydra Sports 230 WA. Can anyone give me any information about the quality, ride, handling, etc of this boat. We are also looking at a Key West 2300 WA, but the dealer does not have a 2300 in stock. We looked at a 2300 WA that we found in a fenced area at a marina, but it appears that the back area of the boat is very small. Anyone know about the Key West. We also looked at a Pro Line, but that boat doesn't have good rankings with J D Powers. What would you buy? Hydra Sports, Key West, Pro Line, or Sea Pro?????? The Hydra Sports 230 is an excellent boat - they have been building them for a long time. In fact, some of their molds have been used by other manufacturers on a rebrand. The simple truth is that any 23' walk around, while providing some space for kids to nap, go potty, etc., there isn't a whole lot of room in the cabin and if you have more than two or three people in the cockpit for fishing, it gets cramped quickly. With regard to the individual boats, they all perform about the same as their hull designs are all the same. The one exception is the Hydra Sports - I am not enthusiastic about bracket mounted engines on this boat. I tested one for a dealer and one of the things I noticed was the tendency to bury the engine up to the cowling on take off and when backing down from a cruising or WOT run - that's not a "bad" thing and it may have been specific to that particular year, it's just something that I wasn't enthusiastic about. I haven't tested one recently and I have heard that they have moved the bracket up to fix that problem, but I can't say that for sure. Depending on what you are looking to do, each boat has it's niche in the market. The Hydra Sports Lightning series is a good, sound all-around boat and will perform as such. The Key West WA has more of the features to look for as a fishing platform. Pro Line I wouldn't buy if you paid me. I just flat out don't like them - much to light, under designed and very cramped for space. Others may have a different opinion. Sea Pro is ok - I'm not impressed with their fit and finish and that last one I looked at, if you looked down the side of the boat, there wasn't a straight line anywhere. If I had my druthers, I'd probably opt for the Key West. You will have to make an engine choice and I would opt for 50 horses under the max. If you can, which may not be possible, try and opt for Evinrude E-TEC engines. If not, go for Merc Optimax or Yamaha HPDI series. I'm not a fan of four stroke engines. One option you may wish to consider is Polar. I have been impressed since they first started making them. http://www.godfreymarine.com/cf/feat...ader_polar.jpg These are well thought out, the fit and finish is excellent and the materials are the highest quality. When delivered,they are complete and with all the little goodies that you have to add to the other boats. They run great and while I'm not sure how they do it, the boats are actually balanced while running - very quick on plane, they track perfectly and handle a heavy chop in fine style. While it's not apparent when looking at them, once aboard, they have a lot of room - storage is hidden and there is plenty of it. These are probably the best boats in this category. Second best would be Sailfish. http://www.sailfishboats.com/sailfis...l.aspx?boat=14 Very similar to Polar in terms of fit and finish. I have a friend who is as particular as you can get when it comes to boats. He has the 2600 and swears it's the best boat of this class he's ever owned. He didn't use factory power going with E-TECs and he's as happy as a pig in a pen of slops which is saying something because he's very particular. Once you decide on the base boat and power, the only thing I would add to a boat like this is canvas for the T-top and maybe a camper back which would increase the interior space for overnights if you are inclined towards that. Hope that helps. Good luck. |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
Thanks, Short Wave Sportfishing! This information helped a lot! We haven't
purchased a boat since 1983, so we've been out of touch with the lastest happenings with boats. We both retired last year and we're looking for a boat that will primarily be used for cruising and light sport fishing mainly in the York River and the Chesapeake Bay, so we wanted something that would easily accommodate both. Most of the time it will be just the two of us in the boat, except when our older children come to visit, and we probably will never spend the nights in it because we live on the river. You've been a tremendous help. Thanks again, Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: We are contemplating purchasing a Hydra Sports 230 WA. Can anyone give me any information about the quality, ride, handling, etc of this boat. We are [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] good rankings with J D Powers. What would you buy? Hydra Sports, Key West, Pro Line, or Sea Pro?????? The Hydra Sports 230 is an excellent boat - they have been building them for a long time. In fact, some of their molds have been used by other manufacturers on a rebrand. The simple truth is that any 23' walk around, while providing some space for kids to nap, go potty, etc., there isn't a whole lot of room in the cabin and if you have more than two or three people in the cockpit for fishing, it gets cramped quickly. With regard to the individual boats, they all perform about the same as their hull designs are all the same. The one exception is the Hydra Sports - I am not enthusiastic about bracket mounted engines on this boat. I tested one for a dealer and one of the things I noticed was the tendency to bury the engine up to the cowling on take off and when backing down from a cruising or WOT run - that's not a "bad" thing and it may have been specific to that particular year, it's just something that I wasn't enthusiastic about. I haven't tested one recently and I have heard that they have moved the bracket up to fix that problem, but I can't say that for sure. Depending on what you are looking to do, each boat has it's niche in the market. The Hydra Sports Lightning series is a good, sound all-around boat and will perform as such. The Key West WA has more of the features to look for as a fishing platform. Pro Line I wouldn't buy if you paid me. I just flat out don't like them - much to light, under designed and very cramped for space. Others may have a different opinion. Sea Pro is ok - I'm not impressed with their fit and finish and that last one I looked at, if you looked down the side of the boat, there wasn't a straight line anywhere. If I had my druthers, I'd probably opt for the Key West. You will have to make an engine choice and I would opt for 50 horses under the max. If you can, which may not be possible, try and opt for Evinrude E-TEC engines. If not, go for Merc Optimax or Yamaha HPDI series. I'm not a fan of four stroke engines. One option you may wish to consider is Polar. I have been impressed since they first started making them. http://www.godfreymarine.com/cf/feat...ader_polar.jpg These are well thought out, the fit and finish is excellent and the materials are the highest quality. When delivered,they are complete and with all the little goodies that you have to add to the other boats. They run great and while I'm not sure how they do it, the boats are actually balanced while running - very quick on plane, they track perfectly and handle a heavy chop in fine style. While it's not apparent when looking at them, once aboard, they have a lot of room - storage is hidden and there is plenty of it. These are probably the best boats in this category. Second best would be Sailfish. http://www.sailfishboats.com/sailfis...l.aspx?boat=14 Very similar to Polar in terms of fit and finish. I have a friend who is as particular as you can get when it comes to boats. He has the 2600 and swears it's the best boat of this class he's ever owned. He didn't use factory power going with E-TECs and he's as happy as a pig in a pen of slops which is saying something because he's very particular. Once you decide on the base boat and power, the only thing I would add to a boat like this is canvas for the T-top and maybe a camper back which would increase the interior space for overnights if you are inclined towards that. Hope that helps. Good luck. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/boats/200703/1 |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 22:42:41 GMT, "wojo via BoatKB.com" u32209@uwe
wrote: Thanks, Short Wave Sportfishing! This information helped a lot! We haven't purchased a boat since 1983, so we've been out of touch with the lastest happenings with boats. We both retired last year and we're looking for a boat that will primarily be used for cruising and light sport fishing mainly in the York River and the Chesapeake Bay, so we wanted something that would easily accommodate both. Most of the time it will be just the two of us in the boat, except when our older children come to visit, and we probably will never spend the nights in it because we live on the river. You've been a tremendous help. Thanks again, Well, take your time, look around and get comfortable with the boats. Ask the dealers if they have one in the water than you can take a ride on - pay for the gas or if they don't have a dealer boat in the water but have a owner boat, give the owner a bottle of champagne and go for a ride asking questions. Boats and engine technology has changed a lot since '86 so you may wish to become comfortable with all the choices which basically break down to Direct Injection two stroke or four stroke. I'm firmly in the two stroke camp, but four strokes have their good points as well. It's what you are comfortable with. Have fun looking and let us know what you purchase. |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 03:38:26 GMT, "wojo" u32209@uwe wrote:
We are contemplating purchasing a Hydra Sports 230 WA. Can anyone give me any information about the quality, ride, handling, etc of this boat. We are also looking at a Key West 2300 WA, but the dealer does not have a 2300 in stock. We looked at a 2300 WA that we found in a fenced area at a marina, but it appears that the back area of the boat is very small. Anyone know about the Key West. We also looked at a Pro Line, but that boat doesn't have good rankings with J D Powers. What would you buy? Hydra Sports, Key West, Pro Line, or Sea Pro?????? I've got a Pro Line and have had no problems with it. But, if I were to go buy another boat now, I'd probably go with the Grady White Seafarer 228. The fishing room is astonishing. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Mar 2, 7:38�pm, "wojo" u32209@uwe wrote:
We are contemplating purchasing a Hydra Sports 230 WA. *Can anyone give me any information about the quality, ride, handling, etc of this boat. *We are also looking at a Key West 2300 WA, but the dealer does not have a 2300 in stock. *We looked at a 2300 WA that we found in a fenced area at a marina, but it appears that the back area of the boat is very small. *Anyone know about the Key West. *We also looked at a Pro Line, but that boat doesn't have good rankings with J D Powers. *What would you buy? *Hydra Sports, Key West, Pro Line, or Sea Pro?????? One of the boats we're featuring in the next issue of our magazine is the Hydra Sports 2500 VX. I spent some time aboard one last week, (not under way), and I thought the boat was pretty impressive. One of the things I am pretty sensitive to is the way things "feel" on a boat. Nothing turns me off faster than stuff that is less than sturdy, flexes when handled, is "get by" skinny, or moves with a lot of slop and shimmy. I'd compare the sense of solidity during a thorough examination with some of the best boats in that class. Built like a brick outhouse. Kevlar reinforced hull, ceramic (!) transom, integrated stringer grid, steel reinforced hoses, you name it. I could envision a couple of fishing buddies or a small family overnighting in the cabin on the 2500 VX. Fully plumbed VacuFlush marine head (no "porta pottie" to dump), hot and cold pressure water, fridge/freezer, microwave oven, .....nothing too elaborate but surely enough to be comfortable for a couple of days or so. The retail sticker on a well optioned boat with twin 150-HP ETECs and a galvanized trailer was not too far north of $100k. Tests done by another organization and offered as a handout by the Hydra Sports dealer indicate tht top speed with those engines on this hull is about 45.5 MPH (32.34 GPH) and a more efficient cruise speed would be 28.2 MPH (12.82 GPH). |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote:
Thanks, Short Wave Sportfishing! This information helped a lot! We haven't purchased a boat since 1983, so we've been out of touch with the lastest [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] never spend the nights in it because we live on the river. You've been a tremendous help. Thanks again, Well, take your time, look around and get comfortable with the boats. Ask the dealers if they have one in the water than you can take a ride on - pay for the gas or if they don't have a dealer boat in the water but have a owner boat, give the owner a bottle of champagne and go for a ride asking questions. Boats and engine technology has changed a lot since '86 so you may wish to become comfortable with all the choices which basically break down to Direct Injection two stroke or four stroke. I'm firmly in the two stroke camp, but four strokes have their good points as well. It's what you are comfortable with. Have fun looking and let us know what you purchase. We made a purchase--finally!!! We decided on the Hydro Sports 230WA with a Yamaha 4-stroke 250 hp. One thing that sold us on this boat was the amount of space in the back cockpit area compared to other boats we looked at in the same price range. The fact that it's 8'11" wide made it even more attractive to us. And it has a huge bow seat position low on the bow. We don't anticipate spending overnights on the boat, but the cabin will come in handy for late-fall fishing trips when the weather is rather cool. We ordered it with the hard t-top and a full enclosure to make cool-weather fishing more attractive. We hope to take delivery of our boat sometime next week. The weather in the eastern part of Virginia is supposed to be in the 60's and 70's through Wednesday. What a treat for mid-March. Can't wait to see it perched on our lift. Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions you provided. -- Message posted via BoatKB.com http://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/boats/200703/1 |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 19:25:40 GMT, "wojo via BoatKB.com" u32209@uwe
wrote: Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Thanks, Short Wave Sportfishing! This information helped a lot! We haven't purchased a boat since 1983, so we've been out of touch with the lastest [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] never spend the nights in it because we live on the river. You've been a tremendous help. Thanks again, Well, take your time, look around and get comfortable with the boats. Ask the dealers if they have one in the water than you can take a ride on - pay for the gas or if they don't have a dealer boat in the water but have a owner boat, give the owner a bottle of champagne and go for a ride asking questions. Boats and engine technology has changed a lot since '86 so you may wish to become comfortable with all the choices which basically break down to Direct Injection two stroke or four stroke. I'm firmly in the two stroke camp, but four strokes have their good points as well. It's what you are comfortable with. Have fun looking and let us know what you purchase. We made a purchase--finally!!! We decided on the Hydro Sports 230WA with a Yamaha 4-stroke 250 hp. One thing that sold us on this boat was the amount of space in the back cockpit area compared to other boats we looked at in the same price range. The fact that it's 8'11" wide made it even more attractive to us. And it has a huge bow seat position low on the bow. We don't anticipate spending overnights on the boat, but the cabin will come in handy for late-fall fishing trips when the weather is rather cool. We ordered it with the hard t-top and a full enclosure to make cool-weather fishing more attractive. We hope to take delivery of our boat sometime next week. The weather in the eastern part of Virginia is supposed to be in the 60's and 70's through Wednesday. What a treat for mid-March. Can't wait to see it perched on our lift. Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions you provided. Well, other than the fact that you bought the wrong engine... :) Congratulations - enjoy it. |
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advice on purchasing Hydra Sports 230 WA
On Mar 10, 11:25�am, "wojo via BoatKB.com" u32209@uwe wrote:
Short Wave Sportfishing wrote: Thanks, Short Wave Sportfishing! *This information helped a lot! *We haven't purchased a boat since 1983, so we've been out of touch with the lastest [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] never spend the nights in it because we live on the river. *You've been a tremendous help. *Thanks again, Well, take your time, look around and get comfortable with the boats. Ask the dealers if they have one in the water than you can take a ride on - pay for the gas or if they don't have a dealer boat in the water but have a owner boat, give the owner a bottle of champagne and go for a ride asking questions. Boats and engine technology has changed a lot since '86 so you may wish to become comfortable with all the choices which basically break down to Direct Injection two stroke or four stroke. *I'm firmly in the two stroke camp, but four strokes have their good points as well. It's what you are comfortable with. Have fun looking and let us know what you purchase. We made a purchase--finally!!! *We decided on the Hydro Sports 230WA with a Yamaha 4-stroke 250 hp. *One thing that sold us on this boat was the amount of space in the back cockpit area compared to other boats we looked at in the same price range. *The fact that it's 8'11" wide made it even more attractive to us. *And it has a huge bow seat position low on the bow. *We don't anticipate spending overnights on the boat, but the cabin will come in handy for late-fall fishing trips when the weather is rather cool. *We ordered it with the hard t-top and a full enclosure to make cool-weather fishing more attractive. *We hope to take delivery of our boat sometime next week. *The weather in the eastern part of Virginia is supposed to be in the 60's and 70's through Wednesday. *What a treat for mid-March. *Can't wait to see it perched on our lift. *Thanks to everyone for the feedback and suggestions you provided. -- Message posted via BoatKB.comhttp://www.boatkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/boats/200703/1- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Congratulations. Sounds like you chose the boat for a lot of right reasons. I think the hardtop makes a lot of sense in most climates, shade in the summer and shelter in the fall and spring. Have a blast, stay safe, and catch a few fish. :-) |
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