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Bert Robbins August 3rd 06 08:36 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live
in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)
Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to
a tee.
Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?
Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005
ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.

Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the
world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no
longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of
the press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care, et
cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.


Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate
higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire
afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all.



Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy
having everything feed to them in small portions.

Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.

Bert Robbins August 3rd 06 08:41 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?

Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005


LOL. I have to give you an "A" for effort, Harry.

The US is far from being in the "dumper" and your claim is a bit
misleading. According to the UN Human Development Index (HDI), the US
hasn't led or come close to leading the list since at least 1980 but it's
ranking is still up there with little mathematical score difference
between it and the top of the list. It is interesting that the countries
that have led the list over the years tend to be more socialistic in their
government.

Nice try, though. :-)

Eisboch


What's even more interesting is that, you being the exception (I think),
most of the people here who depict socialism to be evil have absolutely no
idea what it really is. At least it's entertaining to witness the ideas they
pull outta their asses. :-)


Why don't you enlighten us as to why we should accept socialism as a way
of life?

If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just being
argumentative.

JoeSpareBedroom August 3rd 06 08:41 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..

Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate
higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire
afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all.


Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy
having everything feed to them in small portions.

Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.


The poster boy returns!

If people in a certain country like the life they live, you think they're
wrong?



JimH August 3rd 06 08:43 PM

Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
 

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 3 Aug 2006 06:16:27 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 3 Aug 2006 04:32:37 -0700, "basskisser" wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 12:51:29 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser"
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
Slow steady wins the race.

I don't think John Force would buy into that.

John Force is an idiot.

And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a
Mustang
or some crappy rice burner.

That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :)

John Force is a self made multi millionaire. He started with
nothing,
made a fortune. Drag racing is one of the most technologically
advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is.

Right.

Ever hear of F1 racing?

Yes, why? Drag racing is still one of the most technologically advanced
forms of piston engine racing there is. At 6000+ horsepower, an F1
engine is a horsepower midget in comparison at around 750 hp.

John Force probably started with much less than you, and built a
multi million dollar conglomerate. Have you?

Yep.

Yeah, sure......

Stick to things you know about Bassy...

Just what is it in this previous post that you are eluding to that I
don't know? Be specific.


Specific? Sure.

You're a tautological buffoon who sits in his mother's basement
endlessly trying to emulate his intellectual superiors by engaging in
fruitless argument over anything and everything all the while never
realizing that he is merely dribbling and drooling vacuous statements
in a torrent of mental masturbation leading to the self-delusion that
he is brilliantly mastering the subject when in fact those who
actually contribute meaningful, educated and literate commentary on
both sides of any discussion secretly laugh their collective asses off
watching the one man clown show that is you.

Specific enough?



LOL! That has to be the longest, but most accurate, sentence I have ever
read. ;-)



Don White August 3rd 06 08:49 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..

Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even
live in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)

Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits
you to a tee.

Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4
places in the
world to live year after year.

The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings
surveys.

Such as?

Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005


ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as
obviously reflected in their ratings.


Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in
the world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant.
The US no longer leads the pack in such important areas as
democracy, freedom of the press, lowest infant mortality rates,
availability of health care, et cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.


Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not
rate higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend
my entire afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all.


Their citizens, or captives, don't know any better or they just enjoy
having everything feed to them in small portions.

Why do Canadian's come to the US for health care? Because they can see a
doctor or get an MRI next week rather the 10 months from now.



If you don't mind paying $700.00 - 800.00 out of pocket, you can get an
MRI scan within a week or two here at a private clinic.

Don White August 3rd 06 08:50 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
Bert Robbins wrote:
Don White wrote:

Harry Krause wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:


The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)




Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to a
tee.




Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in the
world to live year after year.



We have about 12 to 15 million people that want a better place to live
than central America and I wonder why they have not just passed through
the US to Canada?


They believe all that propaganda fed by American TV/movies.

Bert Robbins August 3rd 06 08:50 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
DSK wrote:
The majority of Americans are moving backwards economically in terms
of earnings, and many have lost or are losing good employment,
insurance, even their houses.



Household income has been growing slower than credit card debt. What
does that tell you about the U.S. standard of living?


Eisboch wrote:
I don't know if the "majority" are or are not, but don't you see the
difference in thinking?
The average "Joe Swede" looks at an American moving backwards and
can't, for the life of him, understand why and may even long for the
opportunity that he thinks the American has.


Agreed... but the problem is that opportunity being outsourced to China
and you probably know more than most about how difficult it is to make
any innovation pay off.

The fact that the biggest U.S. growth industry for the last 8 years has
been lobbying, should say a lot about the US system and opportunity. The
fact the so-called conservatives have been in charge most of that time
is one reason why I am PO'd at the current gang of "conservatives" in
politics.

The U.S. is not a fair marketplace and those who shout the loudest about
opportunity & free markets are the ones who work the hardest to subvert
the rules in their own favor.

All that aside, I had a close partner in college who was a Swedish
engineering student. Very smart and also had quite a few observations
about similarities and differences between the U.S. and America. You'd
probably enjoy his perspective on Swedish socialized medicine... almost
everything is free, but if you need specialized treatment then you go
back after 5pm and be prepared to pay cash.

Regards
Doug King


Who is driving the outsourcing?

Bert Robbins August 3rd 06 08:53 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
Harry Krause wrote:
DSK wrote:
The majority of Americans are moving backwards economically in terms
of earnings, and many have lost or are losing good employment,
insurance, even their houses.


Household income has been growing slower than credit card debt. What
does that tell you about the U.S. standard of living?


Eisboch wrote:
I don't know if the "majority" are or are not, but don't you see the
difference in thinking?
The average "Joe Swede" looks at an American moving backwards and
can't, for the life of him, understand why and may even long for the
opportunity that he thinks the American has.


Agreed... but the problem is that opportunity being outsourced to
China and you probably know more than most about how difficult it is
to make any innovation pay off.

The fact that the biggest U.S. growth industry for the last 8 years
has been lobbying, should say a lot about the US system and
opportunity. The fact the so-called conservatives have been in charge
most of that time is one reason why I am PO'd at the current gang of
"conservatives" in politics.

The U.S. is not a fair marketplace and those who shout the loudest
about opportunity & free markets are the ones who work the hardest to
subvert the rules in their own favor.

All that aside, I had a close partner in college who was a Swedish
engineering student. Very smart and also had quite a few observations
about similarities and differences between the U.S. and America. You'd
probably enjoy his perspective on Swedish socialized medicine...
almost everything is free, but if you need specialized treatment then
you go back after 5pm and be prepared to pay cash.

Regards
Doug King



As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance or the means to pay cash, you're likely
to get little or no care at all for serious medical problems, and if you
do get help, you sit and wait and wait and wait while you lose time from
work and then you lose your crummy job.


Something about life, liberty and pursuit of happiness comes to mind.
Nowhere does it say that someone else will subsidize your health care
and your retirement.

Besides, just go to any hospital and say you are an "undocumented
immigrant" and you will be taken care of free of charge.


JoeSpareBedroom August 3rd 06 08:55 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
. ..
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Eisboch" wrote in message
...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

JimH wrote:
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?

Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005

LOL. I have to give you an "A" for effort, Harry.

The US is far from being in the "dumper" and your claim is a bit
misleading. According to the UN Human Development Index (HDI), the US
hasn't led or come close to leading the list since at least 1980 but
it's ranking is still up there with little mathematical score difference
between it and the top of the list. It is interesting that the
countries that have led the list over the years tend to be more
socialistic in their government.

Nice try, though. :-)

Eisboch


What's even more interesting is that, you being the exception (I think),
most of the people here who depict socialism to be evil have absolutely
no idea what it really is. At least it's entertaining to witness the
ideas they pull outta their asses. :-)


Why don't you enlighten us as to why we should accept socialism as a way
of life?

If you can't explain why it is such a good thing then you are just being
argumentative.


I don't have to explain it. If a survey of human beings indicates that they
like their country, who the **** are we to criticize their economic system?
Having said that, I know why you do it: You lump all socialist countries
into one big category, so you think Finland equals the USSR. Do as you wish.



Bert Robbins August 3rd 06 08:55 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
Harry Krause wrote:
DSK wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
As opposed to the US system, where, if you are one of the nearly 50
million without health insurance or the means to pay cash, you're
likely to get little or no care at all for serious medical problems,
and if you do get help, you sit and wait and wait and wait while you
lose time from work and then you lose your crummy job.


A crummy job is not much loss, is it?

Waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting for FREE health care is
not that big a problem, is it?

If there was such a thing as free gasoline, imagine how long you'd
have to wait in line at the pump.

DSK



That's pretty smug of you. A crummy job often is the only one available
for some people.


Life isn't fair. Is if fair that the rabbit gets killed and eaten by the
fox? Should we outlaw foxes killing and eating rabbits? With your logic
it should be outlawed. If you aren't going to take care of yourself and
improve your lot in life then why should others have to do it for you?



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