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Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:50:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:59:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message h.net... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: But that's ok because he's a good guy lunatic. :) Flattery will get you nowhere. But flattery and a good cup of coffee might... Im easy... Slut. LOL!! What are YOU laughing at? I hear you can be had for as little as a box of frozen squid! :) Or a good cigar. Sadly, that's true. Is it true that cigars repel mosquitoes? Any particular brand? Cigars are also good for repelling people, dogs, cats, horses and any living creature with common sense. |
Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Slow steady wins the race. I don't think John Force would buy into that. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
JohnH wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:46:24 GMT, Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:35:47 GMT, Don White wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Whatever scenario would make jackoff happy. I slit all their throats afterward, and stole the manager's accounts. Whatever. Oh my! Jackoff will make sure those Palm Sisters take a beating tonight. I keep thinking you may be a little above it. You keep proving me wrong. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John I'm a believer of.. 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do'. You may have found a couple Romans to follow, but you're not in Rome. How's your mom doing? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John She's doing fine. Her appetite is a bit off this summer... but since it's been warm & humid, (rained 13 days in July) I guess that can be expected. Took her with us to see our new puppy at the breeders a week & a half ago. They gave her a seat and a puppy to hold. She was happy as could be. Next week we'll travel to her hometown of St. Peters, Cape Breton for some RnR. I'll tow my sailboat down to enjoy the beautiful Bras d'Or Lakes. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:43:36 GMT, Don White wrote: Jack Goff wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:35:47 GMT, Don White wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Whatever scenario would make jackoff happy. I slit all their throats afterward, and stole the manager's accounts. Whatever. Oh my! Jackoff will make sure those Palm Sisters take a beating tonight. It's apparent that Kevin's been passing out samples of his crop to you guys. Kevin who? Bacon dumbass. :) Don't you know that everybody and everything is only six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon? ~~ sheesh ~~ :) Well, I'm hoping the separation between me & Jackoff is more like an even dozen. |
Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:57:13 GMT, Don White wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:50:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:5pevc29anhm6hf0d38q2p1ej73sj7qs3kc@4ax. com... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:59:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message uth.net... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: But that's ok because he's a good guy lunatic. :) Flattery will get you nowhere. But flattery and a good cup of coffee might... Im easy... Slut. LOL!! What are YOU laughing at? I hear you can be had for as little as a box of frozen squid! :) Or a good cigar. Sadly, that's true. Is it true that cigars repel mosquitoes? Any particular brand? Cigars are also good for repelling people, dogs, cats, horses and any living creature with common sense. Communist. Our prayers are with Fidel. That country will be ruined once the Yankee Traders move in and take over. |
Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
"Don White" wrote in message ... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 12:57:13 GMT, Don White wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message m... On Tue, 1 Aug 2006 18:50:30 -0400, "Eisboch" wrote: "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in message ... "Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message news:5pevc29anhm6hf0d38q2p1ej73sj7qs3kc@4ax .com... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:59:54 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "DSK" wrote in message outh.net... Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: But that's ok because he's a good guy lunatic. :) Flattery will get you nowhere. But flattery and a good cup of coffee might... Im easy... Slut. LOL!! What are YOU laughing at? I hear you can be had for as little as a box of frozen squid! :) Or a good cigar. Sadly, that's true. Is it true that cigars repel mosquitoes? Any particular brand? Cigars are also good for repelling people, dogs, cats, horses and any living creature with common sense. Communist. Our prayers are with Fidel. That country will be ruined once the Yankee Traders move in and take over. Hopefully, the mafia, which doesn't exist, will be the first ones to arrive. They (or people who looked a lot like them) didn't do such a bad job in the past. |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 13:18:14 GMT, Don White wrote:
JohnH wrote: On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 01:46:24 GMT, Don White wrote: JohnH wrote: On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 19:35:47 GMT, Don White wrote: JoeSpareBedroom wrote: Whatever scenario would make jackoff happy. I slit all their throats afterward, and stole the manager's accounts. Whatever. Oh my! Jackoff will make sure those Palm Sisters take a beating tonight. I keep thinking you may be a little above it. You keep proving me wrong. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John I'm a believer of.. 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do'. You may have found a couple Romans to follow, but you're not in Rome. How's your mom doing? -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John She's doing fine. Her appetite is a bit off this summer... but since it's been warm & humid, (rained 13 days in July) I guess that can be expected. Took her with us to see our new puppy at the breeders a week & a half ago. They gave her a seat and a puppy to hold. She was happy as could be. Next week we'll travel to her hometown of St. Peters, Cape Breton for some RnR. I'll tow my sailboat down to enjoy the beautiful Bras d'Or Lakes. It's my experience that old folks and puppies or kittens get along great together. I think it does the elderly a lot of good. What kind of pup did you get? Glad to hear she's doing well. Here in DC we're going thru a heat wave with temps at 100 and high humidity. Golf this AM was fun, but I'll bet I sweated three gallons. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:06:18 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom"
wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:40:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:59:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message om... So now the US is an island, insulated from the rest of the world? Everyone else is "irrelevant"? Really? So the price is 25 - 35% "trading excess" (cite?), which is the futures traders as you've said before, right? But then the oil companies are to blame for the price, not the traders. Uh huh. CITE: It was provided earlier in this discussion. Use your search feature to find the first message containing "PBS", and read forward from there. Nope. There was some discussion about some talking heads on PBS, but there is no cite with solid facts on your 25-35%, because that doesn't exist. These were not "talking heads". These were commodities brokers who live with the numbers all day long. If the barrel price jumps X amount in one day, and they see absolutely NOTHING to cause it, other than amateurs bidding up the price, then what they've pointed out is quite conclusive. OK, let's us that number. Here's the rest of my post: However, what is curious is that you made the statement: The oil companies, knowing this, do whatever they want with the price. That's a crime, and should be dealt with. But you also said this about them: Other businesses make higher margins and it doesn't bother you. So some companies make (much) higher margins than oil companies, but for some reason you think the oil companies are committing a crime? Surely you realize that they have an obligation to their investors to make money, yes? Then you blame the price not on the oil companies, but on futures trading by people who aren't in the business. You said: Limit futures trading to companies which have a material interest in the commodity being traded, in this case, oil. Eliminate speculators, who, by definition, are in no way involved with the production of petroleum products. This latter group is simply playing games. Stopping this would not totally eliminate the fluff in the price, but it would go far in that direction. Understand that I agree with you on some of your points. However, you're all over the map on this. You seem to just be ****ed about the price, and are blaming everyone except the guy behind the register at your local 7-11. Is it the oil companies, or the speculators? And why does gas cost us *half* of what it cost the rest of the civilized world? Could it be that the oil companies are indeed aware that the US is dependant on oil, and are attempting to hold down the cost here in some ways? As I said, the blame could be twofold. If you want to buy a certain stock and the price is inflated due to no fault of yours, you may go ahead and buy it anyway. In that sense, you're a victim since the price has been inflated by others. This analogy points right back to my comments about a resource being manipulated by people who are outsiders. It would be interesting if a few oil companies were asked (i.e.: handed subpoenas) and had to reveal what their actual raw material cost has been since they began using Iraq as an excuse. Jack made the points I was trying to get to yesterday. I think you've backed off your original statement somewhat. I think if you stopped futures trading for one commodity, you'd have to do it for all. Many commodities are 'necessary', we just don't have them in our face every day. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John |
Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 11:06:18 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 03:40:23 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message m... On Tue, 01 Aug 2006 15:59:45 GMT, "JoeSpareBedroom" wrote: "Jack Goff" wrote in message news:9uduc2lvcrv430v7nv5u398botkna3e71h@4ax. com... So now the US is an island, insulated from the rest of the world? Everyone else is "irrelevant"? Really? So the price is 25 - 35% "trading excess" (cite?), which is the futures traders as you've said before, right? But then the oil companies are to blame for the price, not the traders. Uh huh. CITE: It was provided earlier in this discussion. Use your search feature to find the first message containing "PBS", and read forward from there. Nope. There was some discussion about some talking heads on PBS, but there is no cite with solid facts on your 25-35%, because that doesn't exist. These were not "talking heads". These were commodities brokers who live with the numbers all day long. If the barrel price jumps X amount in one day, and they see absolutely NOTHING to cause it, other than amateurs bidding up the price, then what they've pointed out is quite conclusive. OK, let's us that number. Here's the rest of my post: However, what is curious is that you made the statement: The oil companies, knowing this, do whatever they want with the price. That's a crime, and should be dealt with. But you also said this about them: Other businesses make higher margins and it doesn't bother you. So some companies make (much) higher margins than oil companies, but for some reason you think the oil companies are committing a crime? Surely you realize that they have an obligation to their investors to make money, yes? Then you blame the price not on the oil companies, but on futures trading by people who aren't in the business. You said: Limit futures trading to companies which have a material interest in the commodity being traded, in this case, oil. Eliminate speculators, who, by definition, are in no way involved with the production of petroleum products. This latter group is simply playing games. Stopping this would not totally eliminate the fluff in the price, but it would go far in that direction. Understand that I agree with you on some of your points. However, you're all over the map on this. You seem to just be ****ed about the price, and are blaming everyone except the guy behind the register at your local 7-11. Is it the oil companies, or the speculators? And why does gas cost us *half* of what it cost the rest of the civilized world? Could it be that the oil companies are indeed aware that the US is dependant on oil, and are attempting to hold down the cost here in some ways? As I said, the blame could be twofold. If you want to buy a certain stock and the price is inflated due to no fault of yours, you may go ahead and buy it anyway. In that sense, you're a victim since the price has been inflated by others. This analogy points right back to my comments about a resource being manipulated by people who are outsiders. It would be interesting if a few oil companies were asked (i.e.: handed subpoenas) and had to reveal what their actual raw material cost has been since they began using Iraq as an excuse. Jack made the points I was trying to get to yesterday. I think you've backed off your original statement somewhat. I think if you stopped futures trading for one commodity, you'd have to do it for all. Many commodities are 'necessary', we just don't have them in our face every day. -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John John, within the past couple of years, how often have you said "What the hell...?" when you've seen repeated price increases for products OTHER THAN OIL? If any, name the products. |
Gasoline prices - gold as a hedge
On Wed, 02 Aug 2006 14:20:24 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On 2 Aug 2006 06:11:49 -0700, "basskisser" wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: Slow steady wins the race. I don't think John Force would buy into that. John Force is an idiot. And drag racing sucks - unless it's on the street and it's a Mustang or some crappy rice burner. That's when the 'Vette teaches 'em a lesson. :) Watch your mouth! -- ****************************************** ***** Have a Spectacular Day! ***** ****************************************** John |
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