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JimH August 3rd 06 02:54 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)


Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to a
tee.



Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in the
world to live year after year.



The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.


Such as?



JimH August 3rd 06 03:04 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)

Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to a
tee.

Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in the
world to live year after year.

The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.


Such as?



Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005


ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.



JoeSpareBedroom August 3rd 06 03:08 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in
a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)

Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to a
tee.

Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.

The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.

Such as?



Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005


ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.


You don't believe that. Be serious, and stop trying to sabotage the
discussion.



JimH August 3rd 06 03:22 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live in
a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)
Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to
a tee.
Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?

Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005


ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.



Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the
world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no
longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of the
press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care, et
cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.



Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.



JoeSpareBedroom August 3rd 06 03:24 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live
in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)
Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you to
a tee.
Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?

Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005

ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.



Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the
world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no
longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of
the press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care, et
cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.



Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


I'll make you a deal. You explain why a socialist country could not rate
higher in terms of satisfaction, and if you do that, I'll spend my entire
afternoon finding links for you, and not insult you at all.



JimH August 3rd 06 03:40 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live
in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)
Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you
to a tee.
Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?
Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005
ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.

Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the
world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no
longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of
the press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care,
et cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.



Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


Jim, the measurements are concerned with the quality of life for the
majority of people in a country, not the ability of a tiny number of those
people to become multimillionaires. In terms of democracy, freedom of the
press, those others I mentioned and several more criteria, the USA is
nowhere near the top.

I think I mentioned here I have a Norwegian friend, a fellow who was
trained to work as a technician on offshore rigs. He sustained an injury
and was no longer able to work that job. The taxpayers of his country paid
completely for his hospitalization and rehabilitation AND his complete
reeducation at the college level in another field, and while he was
attending college, he and his family received a stipend that covered
expenses. He finished up a couple of years ago, got re-employed at a
professional level, his kids are in college, cost-free to him, the entire
family has medical care AND he has a secure decent retirement.

Now, his take-home is a lot lower than it might be in the United States,
BUT...his out of pocket expenses to maintain a high standard of living for
his family, NO MATTER WHAT, are much lower than they are in this country.

Earlier this week, the US secretary of the treasury said the "economic
recovery in this country is not working for the middle class."

Next.



I do not believe in socialism. I do not believe that people should rely on
the government for their existence or quality of life. The less control the
government has over my life the happier I am.

We agree to disagree. 'Nuf said. ;-)



JoeSpareBedroom August 3rd 06 03:45 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
" JimH" jimhUNDERSCOREosudad@yahooDOTcom wrote in message
. ..


I do not believe in socialism. I do not believe that people should rely
on the government for their existence or quality of life. The less
control the government has over my life the happier I am.

We agree to disagree. 'Nuf said. ;-)


So, let me make sure I understand what you're saying here. If the people in
a socialist country say they're very satisfied with their lives, they must
be wrong because you don't believe in their system of government?



DSK August 3rd 06 03:51 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 
JimH wrote:
I do not believe in socialism.


Well, the fact that you don't "believe in it" does not
change the fact that many socialist countries have built a
higher standard of living for a higher percent of their
citizens.

It's like old joke about infant baptism...
"Believe in it? Shucks, I seen it done!"


... I do not believe that people should rely on
the government for their existence or quality of life.


So don't take what the gov't offers. That is always an option.

Unless you personally made absolutely everything you own
from scratch, starting out naked in the woods, then you are
relying for your very life on organized groups of other
people... in other words, some form or fashion of government.


.... The less control the
government has over my life the happier I am.


In general I agree. OTOH if your next door neighbor decided
to open a nuclear waste dump... one of the highest
profit-per-square-foot businesses around... you might be
hollering for the gummint to protect you.

Regards
Doug King


basskisser August 3rd 06 04:02 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
JimH wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
. ..
Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
Jack Goff wrote:

The separation between yourself and Jack Goff (childish
namecalling
and all...) is immense. I'm superior in every way. I even live
in a
superior country. I'm sorry for you, Don. :-)
Don't know why you run from your nickname, Jackoff. It suits you
to a tee.
Jackoff should stick with what he does best.
The United Nations lists Canada as one of the best 3 or 4 places in
the
world to live year after year.
The US is down in the dumper on most serious places ratings surveys.
Such as?
Here's one. There are several about:

http://www.economist.com/theworldin/...3372495&d=2005
ROTF! The Economist? Nothing more than a European rag as obviously
reflected in their ratings.

Absurd. The Economist is one of the most respected publications in the
world. And as I said there are any number such surveys extant. The US no
longer leads the pack in such important areas as democracy, freedom of
the press, lowest infant mortality rates, availability of health care,
et cetera.

Finland, usually, leads the pack of quality nations.


Finland? A socialistic country? This is funny. Tell me more.


Jim, the measurements are concerned with the quality of life for the
majority of people in a country, not the ability of a tiny number of those
people to become multimillionaires. In terms of democracy, freedom of the
press, those others I mentioned and several more criteria, the USA is
nowhere near the top.

I think I mentioned here I have a Norwegian friend, a fellow who was
trained to work as a technician on offshore rigs. He sustained an injury
and was no longer able to work that job. The taxpayers of his country paid
completely for his hospitalization and rehabilitation AND his complete
reeducation at the college level in another field, and while he was
attending college, he and his family received a stipend that covered
expenses. He finished up a couple of years ago, got re-employed at a
professional level, his kids are in college, cost-free to him, the entire
family has medical care AND he has a secure decent retirement.

Now, his take-home is a lot lower than it might be in the United States,
BUT...his out of pocket expenses to maintain a high standard of living for
his family, NO MATTER WHAT, are much lower than they are in this country.

Earlier this week, the US secretary of the treasury said the "economic
recovery in this country is not working for the middle class."

Next.



I do not believe in socialism. I do not believe that people should rely on
the government for their existence or quality of life. The less control the
government has over my life the happier I am.

That's odd, the Bush administration has enacted more laws of control
over you than anyone!


JimH August 3rd 06 04:04 PM

Gasoline prices - another record high/ supply and demand
 

DSK wrote:
JimH wrote:
I do not believe in socialism.


Well, the fact that you don't "believe in it" does not
change the fact that many socialist countries have built a
higher standard of living for a higher percent of their
citizens.

It's like old joke about infant baptism...
"Believe in it? Shucks, I seen it done!"


Conversely, just because *you* believe in it does not make it true.

Furthermore, just because the Economist says that the folks in Finland
and other socialist countries believe that have a higher standard of
living does not make it true.




... I do not believe that people should rely on
the government for their existence or quality of life.


So don't take what the gov't offers. That is always an option.



I don't take things from the government. I do, however, pay more than
my fair share to it in order to support the dead beats who rely on the
government for their existence.




Unless you personally made absolutely everything you own
from scratch, starting out naked in the woods, then you are
relying for your very life on organized groups of other
people... in other words, some form or fashion of government.


.... The less control the
government has over my life the happier I am.


In general I agree. OTOH if your next door neighbor decided
to open a nuclear waste dump... one of the highest
profit-per-square-foot businesses around... you might be
hollering for the gummint to protect you.

Regards
Doug King



Agreed. I never stated that there should be no government controls or
programs.



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