BoatBanter.com - add a rudder to a kayak?

Page 8 of 9

Show 40 post(s) from this thread on one page

BoatBanter.com (https://www.boatbanter.com/)

- General (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/)

- - add a rudder to a kayak? (https://www.boatbanter.com/general/48459-add-rudder-kayak.html)

RkyMtnHootOwl

December 5th 05 06:48 PM

add a rudder to a kayak?

On 5 Dec 2005 10:08:22 -0800, KMAN wrote:

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 08:30:14 -0800, KMAN wrote:

snip

How are you coming on that list of dangerous Kayaks

Just yours, so far.

Now you already screwed up the list! I said dangerous kayaks. Have you
even seen a Folbot or Klepper, to know what they are?

and places not to go if you are a newbie?

Avoid Niagara Falls.

I expect you are right on here. Have they actually lost newbies over
the falls? Seems most would figure out that is not a good place to go
just from the roaring sound!

Such a short list! Even newbies should be able to figure it out so
far! However, being the great communicator that you are, if the list
gets much longer, we will need you to write an instruction book on how
to read the list!

RkyMtnHootOwl OvO

KMAN	December 5th 05 07:31 PM

add a rudder to a kayak?

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 10:08:22 -0800, KMAN wrote:

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 08:30:14 -0800, KMAN wrote:

snip

How are you coming on that list of dangerous Kayaks

Just yours, so far.

Now you already screwed up the list! I said dangerous kayaks. Have you
even seen a Folbot or Klepper, to know what they are?

Oh, indeed. I would categorize any kayak with you at the helm as
dangerous. My god, just imagine if you had to communicate with another
kayaker for safety reasons! They'd die of old age before figuring out
what you were trying to say.

and places not to go if you are a newbie?

Avoid Niagara Falls.

I expect you are right on here. Have they actually lost newbies over
the falls? Seems most would figure out that is not a good place to go
just from the roaring sound!

See, there's a perfect example of newbie error. By the time you can
hear the roar of the falls it is often (if not always) too late.

Such a short list!

How many did you want?

Even newbies should be able to figure it out so
far! However, being the great communicator that you are, if the list
gets much longer, we will need you to write an instruction book on how
to read the list!

Thank you for remaining incoherent. At least you are consistent.

KMAN	December 5th 05 08:47 PM

add a rudder to a kayak?

Satan wrote:
"Rick Donnelly" wrote in message
. net...
...stuff deleted

Oh God, this old saw again. LOL

Shortly after the last round of this argument, a good friend and fellow
kayaker came to visit me here in Hawaii. He has spent lots of time on the
water, the inland water, kayaking. He's a big, strong guy like me, but has
very strong opinions against rudders: "if you know how to paddle, you don't
need one."

We are all entitled to our opinion. I have paddled plenty of miles before I
first used a rudder. Now all my kayaks that can support a rudder have a
rudder. And when I hear someone say: "if you know how to paddled..." I
just smile.

So I took my bud out on the open ocean.

The first day was "kona:" no winds. He did fine and really enjoyed surfing
the swells.

The second day the Trade Winds were back and blowing a good 25 mph. Plus,
there was a 4 ft swell from the NE. As I rigged the boats, my buddy
insisted that I remove the rudder peddles on his boat because: "they get in
the way." I pointed out that with conditions the way they were, his
decision would be final. It would be extremely difficult, if not
impossible, to re-install the peddles while at sea.

We headed out into the wind and he did fine for the first leg of the
journey. It wasn't until we turned and put the wind at our left
back-quadrant that his problems began. And did he have problems. For
lunch, we hauled up on an islet. He complained about his ability to track
and that his one arm was exhausted. I offered to re-install the rudder
peddles and told him that if he ever felt in trouble, just holler, and I'd
throw him a line but I knew his ego would never allow either.

For the last leg of the trip, the wind was off the back right. My buddy
struggled the whole way back to keep his boat from turning sideways in the
troughs. As we pulled up at the launch, he complained of his now sore other
arm and made this confession: "Maybe I'm going to have to re-think this
whole rudder thing."

LOL

Maybe he needs to learn how to paddle using more than his arms...lots
of scrawnier people could manage much better (without a rudder) using
superior technique.

RkyMtnHootOwl

December 6th 05 12:09 AM

add a rudder to a kayak?

On 5 Dec 2005 11:31:07 -0800, KMAN wrote:

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 10:08:22 -0800, KMAN wrote:

RkyMtnHootOwl wrote:
On 5 Dec 2005 08:30:14 -0800, KMAN wrote:

snip

How are you coming on that list of dangerous Kayaks

Just yours, so far.

Now you already screwed up the list! I said dangerous kayaks. Have you
even seen a Folbot or Klepper, to know what they are?

Oh, indeed. I would categorize any kayak with you at the helm as
dangerous. My god, just imagine if you had to communicate with another
kayaker for safety reasons!

All I do is give a little "hoot" or a big "HOOT/HOOT" on my horn, and
others get out of my way, no problem!

They'd die of old age before figuring out what you were trying to say.

Are you dying of old age! Please God, no, he's so young! He still has
too many newbies to save! And besides, I was just getting to like the
guy!

and places not to go if you are a newbie?

Avoid Niagara Falls.

I expect you are right on here. Have they actually lost newbies over
the falls? Seems most would figure out that is not a good place to go
just from the roaring sound!

See, there's a perfect example of newbie error. By the time you can
hear the roar of the falls it is often (if not always) too late.

Thats another reason to not make the list too long. I can see the
headlines! "Newbie goes over Niagara Falls while reading list!"

Such a short list!

How many did you want?

20/category Sounds like a good number to start with! With all the
newbies buying Christmas kayaks, we should make the list quick and
check it twice!

Even newbies should be able to figure it out so
far! However, being the great communicator that you are, if the list
gets much longer, we will need you to write an instruction book on how
to read the list!

Thank you for remaining incoherent. At least you are consistent.

As incoherent as I am, you would sure not want me writing the
instruction booklet on how newbies can safely paddle! However, I am
sure that you are imminently qualified!

K-K-Kman, The Nuttie Newbie Nannie!

RkyMtnHootOwl OvO