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Tinkerntom February 28th 05 05:39 AM


KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN says:
================
There's no way that even a gun nut really believes that a

community
without
guns is going to have more gun deaths than a community with guns.
Right?
===============

I think you're being overly optimistic.


Indeed. The problem with this utopian ideal is that it is

functionally
impossible, anywhere in the world, to have a community without

guns.

That being the case, the argument is fallacious at its core.


There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun.

And
amazingly, no one gets shot there!


Could you give me a short list so that I can understand what type of
communities you are speaking of? Thanks, TnT


Tinkerntom February 28th 05 05:40 AM


KMAN wrote:
in article et, rick

at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom


snip..



Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why is that?
================

MAybe for the simple reason that I have not lied. Of course, you
cannot make the same claim.
Why not at least back up one of your claims, fool?


If just one Canadian died in a waiting line for health care it would

be a
national scandal featured on the front page of every newspaper and

the lead
story of every television and readio news program. It hasn't happened

rick.
You made it up. You are a liar. And a coward for refusing to admit

it.

To his credit, Tinkerntom has added his name to the list of those who

have
never seen you prove your claim.


I Did? Where did I say such a thing? TnT


KMAN February 28th 05 05:57 AM

in article , Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:39 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN says:
================
There's no way that even a gun nut really believes that a

community
without
guns is going to have more gun deaths than a community with guns.
Right?
===============

I think you're being overly optimistic.

Indeed. The problem with this utopian ideal is that it is

functionally
impossible, anywhere in the world, to have a community without

guns.

That being the case, the argument is fallacious at its core.


There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun.

And
amazingly, no one gets shot there!


Could you give me a short list so that I can understand what type of
communities you are speaking of? Thanks, TnT


Howsabout the Amish?


KMAN February 28th 05 05:59 AM

in article , Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:40 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article et, rick

at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom

snip..



Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why is that?
================
MAybe for the simple reason that I have not lied. Of course, you
cannot make the same claim.
Why not at least back up one of your claims, fool?


If just one Canadian died in a waiting line for health care it would

be a
national scandal featured on the front page of every newspaper and

the lead
story of every television and readio news program. It hasn't happened

rick.
You made it up. You are a liar. And a coward for refusing to admit

it.

To his credit, Tinkerntom has added his name to the list of those who

have
never seen you prove your claim.


I Did? Where did I say such a thing? TnT


Eh?

Sorry, my mistake. When I first read...

"I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last week!"

....I missed out on the weasel words you threw in there. I guess you really
are afraid of rick!


KMAN February 28th 05 06:07 AM

in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:59 AM:

in article
, Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:40 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article et, rick

at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom

snip..



Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why is that?
================
MAybe for the simple reason that I have not lied. Of course, you
cannot make the same claim.
Why not at least back up one of your claims, fool?

If just one Canadian died in a waiting line for health care it would

be a
national scandal featured on the front page of every newspaper and

the lead
story of every television and readio news program. It hasn't happened

rick.
You made it up. You are a liar. And a coward for refusing to admit

it.

To his credit, Tinkerntom has added his name to the list of those who

have
never seen you prove your claim.


I Did? Where did I say such a thing? TnT


Eh?

Sorry, my mistake. When I first read...

"I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last week!"

...I missed out on the weasel words you threw in there. I guess you really
are afraid of rick!


While you are still up, Tinkerntom, let me see if you are not too big of a
coward to give a straight answer.

Have you seen rick provide any evidence to support a claim that Canadians
are dying in waiting lines for health care?

[] Yes

[] No


Tinkerntom February 28th 05 07:16 AM


KMAN wrote:
in article ,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:39 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN says:
================
There's no way that even a gun nut really believes that a

community
without
guns is going to have more gun deaths than a community with

guns.
Right?
===============

I think you're being overly optimistic.

Indeed. The problem with this utopian ideal is that it is

functionally
impossible, anywhere in the world, to have a community without

guns.

That being the case, the argument is fallacious at its core.

There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun.

And
amazingly, no one gets shot there!


Could you give me a short list so that I can understand what type

of
communities you are speaking of? Thanks, TnT


Howsabout the Amish?


The Amish in North Texas deer hunt with rifles, and would sure run you
off their land with a shotgun in hand! Maybe your Amish are nicer. TnT


Tinkerntom February 28th 05 07:32 AM


KMAN wrote:
in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:59 AM:

in article
,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:40 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article et,

rick
at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom

snip..



Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why is that?
================
MAybe for the simple reason that I have not lied. Of course,

you
cannot make the same claim.
Why not at least back up one of your claims, fool?

If just one Canadian died in a waiting line for health care it

would
be a
national scandal featured on the front page of every newspaper

and
the lead
story of every television and readio news program. It hasn't

happened
rick.
You made it up. You are a liar. And a coward for refusing to

admit
it.

To his credit, Tinkerntom has added his name to the list of those

who
have
never seen you prove your claim.

I Did? Where did I say such a thing? TnT


Eh?

Sorry, my mistake. When I first read...

"I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to

support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last

week!"

...I missed out on the weasel words you threw in there. I guess you

really
are afraid of rick!


While you are still up, Tinkerntom, let me see if you are not too big

of a
coward to give a straight answer.

Have you seen rick provide any evidence to support a claim that

Canadians
are dying in waiting lines for health care?

[] Yes

[] No


What if I vote, and I get a hanging chad? Do we call Katherine Harris,
Jeb Bush, Florida Supreme Ct. or US Supreme Ct. to get this mess
straightened out? TnT


BCITORGB February 28th 05 02:43 PM

TnT, that was humorous.

frtzw906
=============


KMAN February 28th 05 02:46 PM


"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

KMAN wrote:
in article ,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:39 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN says:
================
There's no way that even a gun nut really believes that a
community
without
guns is going to have more gun deaths than a community with

guns.
Right?
===============

I think you're being overly optimistic.

Indeed. The problem with this utopian ideal is that it is
functionally
impossible, anywhere in the world, to have a community without
guns.

That being the case, the argument is fallacious at its core.

There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a gun.
And
amazingly, no one gets shot there!

Could you give me a short list so that I can understand what type

of
communities you are speaking of? Thanks, TnT


Howsabout the Amish?


The Amish in North Texas deer hunt with rifles, and would sure run you
off their land with a shotgun in hand! Maybe your Amish are nicer. TnT


Sigh.

There are Amish communities that don't have guns. I was not aware of the
North Texas Amish.




KMAN February 28th 05 02:46 PM


"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
oups.com...

KMAN wrote:
in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:59 AM:

in article
,

Tinkerntom
at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:40 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article et,

rick
at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom

snip..



Tinkerntom, I'm actually surprised that a man of your high
moral stands has
not jumped in to criticize rick for being a liar and a coward.
Why is that?
================
MAybe for the simple reason that I have not lied. Of course,

you
cannot make the same claim.
Why not at least back up one of your claims, fool?

If just one Canadian died in a waiting line for health care it

would
be a
national scandal featured on the front page of every newspaper

and
the lead
story of every television and readio news program. It hasn't

happened
rick.
You made it up. You are a liar. And a coward for refusing to

admit
it.

To his credit, Tinkerntom has added his name to the list of those

who
have
never seen you prove your claim.

I Did? Where did I say such a thing? TnT

Eh?

Sorry, my mistake. When I first read...

"I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to

support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last

week!"

...I missed out on the weasel words you threw in there. I guess you

really
are afraid of rick!


While you are still up, Tinkerntom, let me see if you are not too big

of a
coward to give a straight answer.

Have you seen rick provide any evidence to support a claim that

Canadians
are dying in waiting lines for health care?

[] Yes

[] No


What if I vote, and I get a hanging chad? Do we call Katherine Harris,
Jeb Bush, Florida Supreme Ct. or US Supreme Ct. to get this mess
straightened out? TnT


Coward!




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