rick says:
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Nice strawman there fool.
===================

I thought rick had been cured of the "strawman" habit. For your next
exercise, try spotting logical fallacies. Try a red herring. But
please, leave the strawman alone, eh?

frtzw906

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
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Tinkerntom

snip...



Rick is claiming that Canadians are dying in waiting lines for
health care,
===============
No fool, I have provided sites that claim that Canadians are
dying in wait lines. YIOU have yet to provide anything that
refutes those sites.

Nothing you have ever posted substantiates that claim.

If just one Canadian had died waiting for health care, it would be a
national scandal and featured as a lead story be all media.
=================================
Since you live in an only semi-free country, maybe there's a massive
coverup. Problem for you is that there are reports from media on the net,
that you could find, if you weren't so afraid of the truth.

Our media seeks out scandals to get readership and viewership to make money
just like any other media, and they'd by all over that story like you
wouldn't believe. In fact, when someone has to wait for a long time for a
procedure it does make it into the media (like the example from Newfoundland
that you posted). If someone in fact died in a waiting line for health care
there would be provincial and federal inquiries that would last for years.
It hasn't happened. You made it up. You lied. And you are a coward for
refusing to admit it.

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 4:52 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 6:32 AM:





snip...





If you are using cars as a justification for assault weapons,
then you are
comparing the two, fool. LOL.
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No fool. It is you that is trying to justify something based on
what YOU determine to be a need. You failed.

You brought up cars, not me.
======================
No, you brought up the "need" of an object being the determination whether
or not people should have them. You lost, again, and now have you resort
to your ignorant spews...

You brought up cars. Check.

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article , rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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snip..

FYI, it's not just with me that rick is a liar and a coward.
His behavior is
rather universal on that note.
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The only proven liar in the thread had been you. I'm still
waiting for you to provide the proof that refutes what I have
already posted.

You've posted nothing to prove that Canadians are dying in waiting lines
for
health care, and you never will, because it isn't true. If it happened to
just one Canadian it would be a huge national scandal.
=================================
Since you live in an only semi-free country, maybe there's a massive
coverup. Problem for you is that there are reports from media on the net,
that you could find, if you weren't so afraid of the truth.


Why have you spent this much time and energy trying to lie your way out,
instead of finding the information that refutes the sites that I provided?

The sites you provided don't prove that anyone has died in a waiting line
for health care in Canada.

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article , KMAN at
wrote on 2/28/05 12:59 AM:


snippage...

"I agree, that you claim, that he made the claim, and failed to support
it. No mystery here after watching this squabble for the last week!"

...I missed out on the weasel words you threw in there. I guess you
really
are afraid of rick!

While you are still up, Tinkerntom, let me see if you are not too big of
a
coward to give a straight answer.

Have you seen rick provide any evidence to support a claim that Canadians
are dying in waiting lines for health care?
===============
Nice strawman there fool. He already siad he wasn't, BECAUSE he did not
go back and read the previous posts.
Man, you really are this stupid, aren't you?

Right. So thus far not one person on rec.boats.paddle has seen anything from
you that proves what you have claimed.

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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rick says:
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Nice strawman there fool.
===================

I thought rick had been cured of the "strawman" habit. For your next
exercise, try spotting logical fallacies. Try a red herring. But
please, leave the strawman alone, eh?

frtzw906

LOL. He likes to throw that one around, and also "jingoistic." I can only
guess he took some sort of combined first year psych and first year social
studies course and those are the only two terms he remembers.

KMAN wrote:
"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
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KMAN wrote:
in article ,
Tinkerntom
at wrote on 2/28/05 12:39 AM:


KMAN wrote:
in article , Scott Weiser at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:

A Usenet persona calling itself BCITORGB wrote:

KMAN says:
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There's no way that even a gun nut really believes that a
community
without
guns is going to have more gun deaths than a community with
guns.
Right?
===============

I think you're being overly optimistic.

Indeed. The problem with this utopian ideal is that it is
functionally
impossible, anywhere in the world, to have a community without
guns.

That being the case, the argument is fallacious at its core.

There are lots of communities in the world where no one has a
gun.
And
amazingly, no one gets shot there!

Could you give me a short list so that I can understand what
type
of
communities you are speaking of? Thanks, TnT

Howsabout the Amish?

The Amish in North Texas deer hunt with rifles, and would sure run
you
off their land with a shotgun in hand! Maybe your Amish are nicer.
TnT

Sigh.

There are Amish communities that don't have guns. I was not aware of
the
North Texas Amish.

It's probably something in the water down there! Everyone seems to run
around with a gun in the back of their PU truck, or in this case buggy.
TnT

"KMAN" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
. net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
et, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:15 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
,
Tinkerntom

snip...



Rick is claiming that Canadians are dying in waiting lines
for
health care,
===============
No fool, I have provided sites that claim that Canadians are
dying in wait lines. YOU have yet to provide anything that
refutes those sites.

Nothing you have ever posted substantiates that claim.

If just one Canadian had died waiting for health care, it
would be a
national scandal and featured as a lead story be all media.
=================================
Since you live in an only semi-free country, maybe there's a
massive coverup. Problem for you is that there are reports
from media on the net, that you could find, if you weren't so
afraid of the truth.

Our media seeks out scandals to get readership and viewership
to make money just like any other media, and they'd by all over
that story like you wouldn't believe. In fact, when someone has
to wait for a long time for a procedure it does make it into
the media (like the example from Newfoundland that you posted).
If someone in fact died in a waiting line for health care there
would be provincial and federal inquiries that would last for
years.
===============
Then you'd better start reading the inquests, fool.



It hasn't happened. You made it up. You lied.
==================
You're the proven liar here.


And you are a coward for
refusing to admit it.
===============
No fool, I have provided sites that claim that Canadians are
dying in wait lines. YOU have yet to provide anything that
refutes those sites.

"KMAN" wrote in message
. ..

"rick" wrote in message
.net...

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
in article
, rick at
wrote on 2/27/05 5:10 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
snip..

FYI, it's not just with me that rick is a liar and a
coward.
His behavior is
rather universal on that note.
===============
The only proven liar in the thread had been you. I'm still
waiting for you to provide the proof that refutes what I
have
already posted.

You've posted nothing to prove that Canadians are dying in
waiting lines for
health care, and you never will, because it isn't true. If it
happened to
just one Canadian it would be a huge national scandal.
=================================
Since you live in an only semi-free country, maybe there's a
massive coverup. Problem for you is that there are reports
from media on the net, that you could find, if you weren't so
afraid of the truth.


Why have you spent this much time and energy trying to lie
your way out, instead of finding the information that refutes
the sites that I provided?

The sites you provided don't prove that anyone has died in a
waiting line for health care in Canada.
===============
I have provided sites that show that Canadians are
dying in wait lines. YOU have yet to provide anything that
refutes those sites. liar.

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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rick says:
================
Nice strawman there fool.
===================

I thought rick had been cured of the "strawman" habit. For your
next
exercise, try spotting logical fallacies. Try a red herring.
But
please, leave the strawman alone, eh?
===============
Nice bit of dishonesty there...



frtzw906