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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 6:52 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message .net... "KMAN" wrote in message . .. snip... If you are using cars as a justification for assault weapons, then you are comparing the two, fool. LOL. ========================== No fool. It is you that is trying to justify something based on what YOU determine to be a need. You failed. You brought up cars, not me. ====================== No, you brought up the "need" of an object being the determination whether or not people should have them. You lost, again, and now have you resort to your ignorant spews... You brought up cars. Check. =============== LOL STill as dense and stupid as ever I see, eh liar? Nope. You brought up cars. Check. ====================== No So you didn't bring up cars? ======================== Nice bit of dishonesty there fool. So you didn't bring up cars? ======================= You didn't bring up need as the basis for owning anything, liar? Here, let me restore your dishonesty again, liar.. "No, you brought up the "need" of an object being the determination whether or not people should have them. You lost, again, and now have you resort to your ignorant spews... checkmate, proven liar..." |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 7:06 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message .net... snippage... Why did you dishonestly delete the part about the lies you made about wait lines that I proved you made? Didn't like seeing your stupidity again? restore start Name one thing. Please quote the alleged lie, and provide proof that it is a lie. =========================== That Canadians don't wait for treatment in your health care system. You did not quote me. ====================== Yes, I did. see other posts for today... Here, want to see it again? "...No one is waiting for treatment..." You need to quote without the "... and ..." and you also need to provide a link to the message so it can be verified. What a scumbag you are! ================ There was no "and" fool. You made that statemnet. Too abd you're a proven liar, eh? YOU made the statement. Now you're claiming you can't find it? You really are a loser, aren't you, liar? restore end Post the entire quote. Why did you need to delete the beginning and end? Weasel. ====================== "...No one is waiting for treatment..." Why are you concerned about whole quotes while you dishonestly delete whole ones, fool? Unlike you, my cite does not change any meaning of what you said, liar. You lied. You know it, I know it, and now you're trying to duck, liar. |
"rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 7:11 PM: "Michael Daly" wrote in message ... On 26-Feb-2005, "rick" wrote: Try again - there was nothing in that link that said Canadians are dying in waiting lines. Put up or shut up, dickhead. ================= Yes, there was. I see you don't lie any better than the other buffoons... Two sites provided unsubstantiated claims that people are dying in waiting lines. Try providing one that substantiates that claim. The third one states: "Claims about patients dying because of waiting too long cannot be confirmed or denied from current research and information." You still haven't posted a link to prove your ridiculous claim. ============================= Again, that you don't like the messenger doen't mean the facts are false. That YOU believe they are ubsubstantiated means nothing. Like kman, if you weren't so afraid of the data you could look for yourself. It's out there. I let kman look for himself, and you now, because the first site was too 'right-wing' the next was too 'union'. If the sites I provided are wrong, it should be easy then for you to find refutation of the data. Hasn't been done yet. The union article did not reference any evidence. It was just as dishonest as you are. ================ Provide sites that refute their contentions, liar. There are no sites available to refute something that is based only in imagination. There's no facts or evidence to challenge. |
"rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 6:49 PM: snip Is there a coroner's report that says Mr X. died because he was waiting? ===================== Read the sites fool. As you know, patient info is not released. There are stories about health care issues in the media all the time. Something as serious as someone dying while waiting for care would definitely make the front page. ================== It has before fool. Never. Prove it. |
"rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 7:06 PM: "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "KMAN" wrote in message snippage... Or are you going to be consistent and be a liar and a coward on this issue as well? ==================== Anything you open your mouth about, like Canadians never waiting for treatment. I never said that. Every health care system requires that people wait. ========================== Yes, you did liar. Do try to keep up with your own spews, dolt. What part of your claim: "...No one is waiting for treatment..." don't you undersatnd? You said it fool, 2/20/2005 Big lie there fool... Never said it. Prove that I did. ================ See above fool. You made the claim, liar. Why none of your pithy spews here, fool? Finally realixed how stupid you really are, and how much you lie? Post the entire quote, and reference it, weasel. ============================ "...No one is waiting for treatment..." That's is a quote by you fool. feb 20, 2005. That you are still too stupid to fully use your computer is no surprise, liar. Post the entire quote. |
"rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 6:52 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message .net... "KMAN" wrote in message . .. snip... If you are using cars as a justification for assault weapons, then you are comparing the two, fool. LOL. ========================== No fool. It is you that is trying to justify something based on what YOU determine to be a need. You failed. You brought up cars, not me. ====================== No, you brought up the "need" of an object being the determination whether or not people should have them. You lost, again, and now have you resort to your ignorant spews... You brought up cars. Check. =============== LOL STill as dense and stupid as ever I see, eh liar? Nope. You brought up cars. Check. ====================== No So you didn't bring up cars? ======================== Nice bit of dishonesty there fool. So you didn't bring up cars? ======================= You didn't bring up need as the basis for owning anything, liar? Here, let me restore your dishonesty again, liar.. "No, you brought up the "need" of an object being the determination whether or not people should have them. You lost, again, and now have you resort to your ignorant spews... checkmate, proven liar..." What is the need for assault weapons to the general public? It's a valid question. They are only useful for spraying bullets. Why else do you need them? In response to this YOU brought up the fact that people get killed by cars. But cars have many other valid and valuable purposes. But you don't want to address that, even though YOU brought it up. Scum. |
"rick" wrote in message k.net... "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article , rick at wrote on 2/28/05 7:06 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. "rick" wrote in message .net... snippage... Why did you dishonestly delete the part about the lies you made about wait lines that I proved you made? Didn't like seeing your stupidity again? restore start Name one thing. Please quote the alleged lie, and provide proof that it is a lie. =========================== That Canadians don't wait for treatment in your health care system. You did not quote me. ====================== Yes, I did. see other posts for today... Here, want to see it again? "...No one is waiting for treatment..." You need to quote without the "... and ..." and you also need to provide a link to the message so it can be verified. What a scumbag you are! ================ There was no "and" fool. You made that statemnet. Too abd you're a proven liar, eh? YOU made the statement. Now you're claiming you can't find it? You really are a loser, aren't you, liar? restore end Post the entire quote. Why did you need to delete the beginning and end? Weasel. ====================== "...No one is waiting for treatment..." Why are you concerned about whole quotes while you dishonestly delete whole ones, fool? Provide the entire quote. Scum. |
Scott says:
==================== You offer anti-capitalist propaganda from Communist China about "income disparity" as evidence? Are you not aware that this is but thinly veiled justification for taking rich Chinese out and putting a bullet in the back of their heads because they have presumed to make a profit in a Communist/Socialist society? You're going to have to do MUCH better than that. ============= I suggest that your reaction to info from China is an over-reaction. Any self-respecting communist is turning over in his grave at the sight of what is happening in China today. China may be many things -- totalitarian to start -- but it is hardly communist. It may have considerable vestiges of communism but they are vanishing at a rapid rate. The victims of that move are just so much trash to be discarded. These victims would never know they are in a country that is supposedly communist. What is happening in China can best be compared to England in 1850 (and the Chinese peasants are the Irish of the year 2005). Scott, don't let the name of the country put you off. Right now the relationship between the capitalists and the government borders on a love-in. So, fair enough, reject my source re poverty and crime, but please acquaint yourself with what is going on in China. It is hardly the "red" Chine of a foregone era. frtzw906 |
Weiser on poverty - crime causality:
====================== I don't dispute that there is some causal link, I dispute that it is THE causal link to the exclusion of all others. ======================== I think we're on the way to some kind of agreement. Like you, I'm not inclined to claim that there is ONE or THE causal link. Where we likely still disagree is over the relative magnitudes of the myriad causes of crime. The data I've seen, plus personal observations and experiences lead me to the conclusion that poverty is a significant factor in crime (both absolute and relative poverty). Look about major urban centers around the globe: is crime not generally more likely to occur in poorer ghettos? When break-in occur in wealthier neighborhoods, aren't the criminals likely to have come from poorer neighborhoods? Why are crime rates in aboriginal communities generally higher than in non-aboriginal communities? Why are North American natives significantly over-represented in Canada's prison population? Again, I'll agree with you that there is no ONE answer, but I'll venture to say that relative poverty plays a huge role. And I'm not sure the ownership of guns (or not) would change any of what I've noted. frtzw906 |
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