Well done, Tink!

KMAN, on Mar 1, 9:46 pm, in responding to you, thanked you for your
conciliatory and well-reasoned post. In his`response, KMAN reiterates
what I said to rick quite some time back: this could be a useful
discussion on healthcare systems that we could all learn from. rick was
unwilling to broaden the scope of the discussion, and that's when I
opted out for a bit. I wasn't interested in being a part of his
incessant name-calling.

Anyway, thanks again, Tink,
frtzw906

Hey Tink, from your posts here, I would have pegged you for an ESFJ.

Maybe you should take the test again.

frtzw906

KMAN, I was pleased with the effort Tink took to get a handle on this
situation. And, from my own perspective, I've done some reading about
various systems and have at least a passing acquaintance with a variety
of European models (I now know the difference between the Beveridge and
the Bismark approaches to healthcare funding). In that sense, all of
this has been useful for me.

It's too bad rick could never see the value in such discourse.

frtzw906

BCITORGB wrote:
Hey Tink, from your posts here, I would have pegged you for an ESFJ.

Maybe you should take the test again.

frtzw906

I have taken it a couple of times, by different administrators, and
always with same results.

E in the 99%
N 95%
T 95%
P 98%

My dark side would be ESFJ, and my very dark side is ISFJ.

Obviously the E part speaks for itself.

The intuitive, is how I collect info, and I dont need no numbers for
that, my intuition is on cruise control. I just know how thing are and
should be, extremely intuitive. Inclined to go off half cocked, without
all the info, but then who needs all the info.

The Thinking is what I do with my intuitive info, I am always thinking
about where I am, and what needs tinkering. I turn on the autopilot,
and things get tinkered with.


The perceive part is how I judge folks and hold them accountable to my
perceptions. I am actually pretty laid back, and don't get to
passionate about alot of things, just some things as you know. I like
folks, but I don't need them so I can stay detached and not invested in
a lot of J type judgements.


In other words my dark side is that I can be a cold calculating
passionate judgemental person, I prefer being sort of a general all
around nice guy, My nick name growing up was Clemcadiddlehopper, which
if you know who I am referring to, he did not have much needs for the
facts, or anything, or anyone for that matter. Maybe a floppy hat! But
if a need or threat is perceived, I can turn all guns and fire a salvo
on a moments notice, without a lot of thought. I have blasted a few
friends out of the water, but then I was just as quick to throw them a
life preserver! Don't hold grudges to long! TnT

Tink says:
========================
E in the 99%
N 95%
T 95%
P 98%
====================


All I can say is WOW! to your results. In terms of interpretation,
however, let me add something to you conceptualization of "N" -
intuitive. This dimension pertains to your preferred ways of collecting
data. "S" is for those who collect data and come to understandings
through direct observation and experimentation. N applies to those who
gain understanding through the abstract -- models, theories,
mathematics. I liken it to the different ways in which one can do
physics: (1) there's the experimental physicist - S and (2) the
theoretical physicist - N. Both are, of course, valid ways to gain
comprehension.

Tink, I just get this impression that you're a "tinkerer" at heart -
"S". You strike me as the kind of guy I'd like to meet when I'm stuck
on a back road somewhere with no way to get my vehicle moving. There I
am, all "N" of me, with complete conceptual and theoretical knowledge
of how the G-D car is supposed to work, but nary a clue about how to
"actually" make it work (that's why I always make sure to renew my CAA
membership). I have a hunch you'd be the guy with the toolbox, jumper
cables, etc etc, plus a nice thermos of hot coffee, who'd get down into
the dirt to help me out. Am I reading you right? So, in my books,
you've got to be an "S". Of course, I could be reading you all wrong.
Perhaps you'd just stop and join me in my conceptual, theoretical daze
- "N".

frtzw906

BCITORGB wrote:
Tink says:
========================
E in the 99%
N 95%
T 95%
P 98%
====================


All I can say is WOW! to your results. In terms of interpretation,
however, let me add something to you conceptualization of "N" -
intuitive. This dimension pertains to your preferred ways of
collecting
data. "S" is for those who collect data and come to understandings
through direct observation and experimentation. N applies to those
who
gain understanding through the abstract -- models, theories,
mathematics. I liken it to the different ways in which one can do
physics: (1) there's the experimental physicist - S and (2) the
theoretical physicist - N. Both are, of course, valid ways to gain
comprehension.

Tink, I just get this impression that you're a "tinkerer" at heart -
"S". You strike me as the kind of guy I'd like to meet when I'm stuck
on a back road somewhere with no way to get my vehicle moving. There
I
am, all "N" of me, with complete conceptual and theoretical knowledge
of how the G-D car is supposed to work, but nary a clue about how to
"actually" make it work (that's why I always make sure to renew my
CAA
membership). I have a hunch you'd be the guy with the toolbox, jumper
cables, etc etc, plus a nice thermos of hot coffee, who'd get down
into
the dirt to help me out. Am I reading you right? So, in my books,
you've got to be an "S". Of course, I could be reading you all wrong.
Perhaps you'd just stop and join me in my conceptual, theoretical
daze
- "N".

frtzw906

No, you have alot right, I in fact have a truck full of tools, and
jumper cables, and tow ropes. I have been known to stop in the middle
of the central valley highway, now known as TREX, and pull astranded
mororist out of the traffic during rush hour. Having done so whn they
offer to pay me, I say know, but let me tell you about God's Love. What
higher theory is there? Do you understand it? Can you explain it? All
other theories pale in comparison!

Oh yeah, I know how the car is suppose to work, and if I came across
you stalled out in the mountains, I would probably help you out. But
moments before I may have been considering the String Theory, and if it
would not be easier to transport through a wormhole to another
universe. That would be one exciting trip.

The S/N attribute is interesting, because though I always score high in
the N category, I also have strong S capability, it is just not my
preference. I am a tinkerer, but the name Tinker n Tom, comes from a
dog I had when a junior in highschool. Her name was Tinkerbelle because
she danced on her toes when she was around me. If I sat down, she would
lay down as close as she could get to touch me. And at night, she would
lay beside my bed and wimper till I put my hand down for her to touch.
She would never ever get up on the bed. She would follow me to school
as far as the property line, and how she knew with no fence, she would
stop and be waiting for me when I came home, right where she stopped
and sat all day. My Mom watched this all the time and was totally
amazed, she would take water out to Tinker to drink, but she would
never leave that spot. Then one day I came home and Tinker was gone,
but that is another story.

Now the name of my boat is Tinker, so if you ever see me, you will see
Tinker and Tom! Now I also love to tinker, and a Folbot Super is a
tinkersdelight, but that also is another story. Suffice it to say, that
I can definitely be a touchy feely guy. Just that I am not very good at
handling the juice. So know when you guys call me Tink, that was
Tinkers shortened name. I would say Tink, and she would be all ears and
ready to go. It brings back fond memories, and makes it harder for me
to be to hard on you guys. TnT

Tink says:
================
So know when you guys call me Tink, that was
Tinkers shortened name. I would say Tink, and she would be all ears and
ready to go. It brings back fond memories, and makes it harder for me
to be to hard on you guys. TnT
===============

C'mon Tink... after all of that, you can't convince me that you're not
also an "F". You're just an old tinkering softie (SF) with nary a cold,
calculating, sterile NT bone in your body. Don't fight it, man! ESFP
-- whaddya think?

frtzw906

BCITORGB wrote:
Tink says:
================
So know when you guys call me Tink, that was
Tinkers shortened name. I would say Tink, and she would be all ears
and
ready to go. It brings back fond memories, and makes it harder for me
to be to hard on you guys. TnT
===============

C'mon Tink... after all of that, you can't convince me that you're
not
also an "F". You're just an old tinkering softie (SF) with nary a
cold,
calculating, sterile NT bone in your body. Don't fight it, man! ESFP
-- whaddya think?

frtzw906

Call me Tink again, I would probably have to give you a big sloppy kiss
if we ever met, but don't expect me to dance on my toes for you. TnT

On 1-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Prove it.

Not interested. It's Canada's problem.

Once again you make a statement that you cannot or will not
back up. Once again, you leave us no option but to assume you
lying again.

Mike

On 1-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

I'll do as I please, not as you please,

How about respecting the charter of the newsgroup.

If you want to discuss invasive species, take it to
a relevant newsgroup - there are such groups in the
sci.* categories.

Oh, wait - respect is something you know nothing about.

Mike