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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 5:59 PM: snip... You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in isolated or slum areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their convenience? Get real. ==================== Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their 'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years for treatment. No one is waiting for treatment. ====================== Yes, they are. Weeks months and years. Even you have agreed to that, now. Nono. Stop being dishonest. I never said no one in Canada is waiting for treatment. ================ Yes, you did. No, I didn't. I respond to your goofy claim that the people in your example were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment when in fact they were all in current receipt of care. Stop being such a scumbag. You owe me an apology but your are too weak and too much of coward to do it. ====================== Nope. Where's yours, liarman? I responded to your allegation that the people featured in the story were waiting for treatment. They aren't. And you are a scumbag for taking my statement out of that context and trying to say that I was referring to all persons in Canada. ===================== No, you replied that no one is waiting for treatment. liarman. You owe me an apology, but you are too weak and too big of a coward to do it. +================= No, I don't. But it seems you have forgotten about your, eh liarman. Proof that people are dying in waiting lines in Canada have been presented to you, yet you are still spewing about a lie you have already taken back. Why is that, liarman? Don't want to discuss your continued willful ignorance? |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 6:03 PM: snip.. You've captured it perfectly. I got so frustrated with rick's spew that I tried to pin him down and make him focus more on his wild claims about Canadian health care, and all that happened instead is he took the dishonest tactic of picking on the wording of my attempts to make him focus. ===================== No, there was no misleading by me of your lies, er wording, liarman. You made direct declarative statements that you cannot back up. I focused entirely on your lies that no 1) no one is waiting for treatment in Canada, Scumbag. You know very well what I declared was that the people in Newfoundland were not waiting for 2 1/2 years for treatment - the lie YOU were telling. But you are too big of a coward to admit it. ====================== Nope. that's not what you said Yes it is. I responded to your allegation that the people featured in the story were waiting for treatment. They aren't. And you are a scumbag for taking my statement out of that context and trying to say that I was referring to all persons in Canada. ======================== Nope. you claimed no one was waiting for treatment, liarman. But again, where's your backing of your claims that no one is dying while in those wait lines? Too busy continuing your spew about a lie you have already taken back? You owe me an apology, but you are too weak and too big of a coward to do it. ===================== Nope. Where's yours, liarman. Afterall, your lying has been proven. |
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"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 5:46 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. snip... === So, coward, why are you being a scumbag and refusing to name those valid and valuable purposes of assault weapons? ====================== Because, liarman, unlike you, I don't purport to be the arbiter of what is useful, valuable, or necessary. That is the perogative of eack person, liarman. Why did you say weapons also have valid and valuable purposes if you were not prepared to name them? What a coward! ================== Nope. Because, unlike you, I don't pretend to be the arbiter of what is and is not a valuable use for 'any' product. You said that assault weapons have value. That's just an empty assertion unless you are prepared to state the value. Grow up. =========================== You've claimed alot of things here in this group, and have yet to back any of those assertion up with anything but your lies. Talk about emptiness, that's the whole of your writings. Why now must everyone else bend to your ignorance, liarman? Again, what is of 'value' is different to different people. Why should I presume to speak for everyine just because you feel you can, liarman? |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 5:48 PM: snip... Post the whole thing, including headers. What are you afriad of? ==================== Nothing liarman, I posted your statement. Your lie. Too bad for you. I didn't lie. The people in your example are not waiting for treatment as the FULL quote fully shows. ================= No, the full quote backs up that you lied even more. You seperate treatment from tests, and then claim that 'no one' is waiting for treatment. Yes, in response to your allegation that the people featured in the story were waiting for treatment. They aren't. And you are a scumbag for taking my statement out of that context and trying to say that I was referring to all persons in Canada. You owe me an apology, but you are too weak and too big of a coward to do it. ================== Nope. Where's yours. liarman? |
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wrote on 3/2/05 10:19 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 6:01 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... "rick" wrote in message ink.net... "BCITORGB" wrote in message ps.com... KMAN, I was pleased with the effort Tink took to get a handle on this situation. And, from my own perspective, I've done some reading about various systems and have at least a passing acquaintance with a variety of European models (I now know the difference between the Beveridge and the Bismark approaches to healthcare funding). In that sense, all of this has been useful for me. It's too bad rick could never see the value in such discourse. ==================== LOL I tried, fool. All I got was a bunch of jingoistic chest-thumping lies. Perhaps you should stop telling them, then. ===================== I didn't lie, liarman. People are on long waiting lists in Canada, and some of those people die while waiting for that treatment. Sites have been presented to you that prove this, yet you insist on your chest-thumping lies. Why is that liarman? Haven't quite gotten your refutaions together yet? I'm not lying about anything. ===================== Yes, you are, liarman. People are on long waiting lists in Canada, and some of those people die while waiting for that treatment. Sites have been presented to you that prove this, yet you insist on your chest-thumping lies. Why is that liarman? Haven't quite gotten your refutaions together yet? I don't think you've been paying attention and you are making a fool of yourself. You might want to ask Tinkerntom to point you to the post (long ago) where I conceded that the way I framed the question allowed you to meet the burden of proof I requested. The way you have gone on and on about it has further cemented your reputation as a petty juvenile, and your refusal to apologize for your extreme dishonesty in saying I claimed that no one in Canada is waiting for treatment has added coward and scumbag to your character traits. |
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wrote on 3/2/05 10:19 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 6:03 PM: snip.. You've captured it perfectly. I got so frustrated with rick's spew that I tried to pin him down and make him focus more on his wild claims about Canadian health care, and all that happened instead is he took the dishonest tactic of picking on the wording of my attempts to make him focus. ===================== No, there was no misleading by me of your lies, er wording, liarman. You made direct declarative statements that you cannot back up. I focused entirely on your lies that no 1) no one is waiting for treatment in Canada, Scumbag. You know very well what I declared was that the people in Newfoundland were not waiting for 2 1/2 years for treatment - the lie YOU were telling. But you are too big of a coward to admit it. ====================== Nope. that's not what you said Yes it is. I responded to your allegation that the people featured in the story were waiting for treatment. They aren't. And you are a scumbag for taking my statement out of that context and trying to say that I was referring to all persons in Canada. ======================== Nope. you claimed no one was waiting for treatment No. I said that the people in Newfoundland were not waiting for treatment as you had falsely claimed. Your refusal to apolgize for your dishonesty is further cementing your reputation as a coward and scumbag. |
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wrote on 3/2/05 10:21 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 5:46 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message . .. snip... === So, coward, why are you being a scumbag and refusing to name those valid and valuable purposes of assault weapons? ====================== Because, liarman, unlike you, I don't purport to be the arbiter of what is useful, valuable, or necessary. That is the perogative of eack person, liarman. Why did you say weapons also have valid and valuable purposes if you were not prepared to name them? What a coward! ================== Nope. Because, unlike you, I don't pretend to be the arbiter of what is and is not a valuable use for 'any' product. You said that assault weapons have value. That's just an empty assertion unless you are prepared to state the value. Grow up. =========================== You've claimed alot of things here in this group, and have yet to back any of those assertion up with anything but your lies. Talk about emptiness, that's the whole of your writings. Why now must everyone else bend to your ignorance, liarman? Again, what is of 'value' is different to different people. Why should I presume to speak for everyine just because you feel you can, liarman? What a weasel! You said assault weapons have value. If you can't say what that value is, then your point is lost, your argument is once again defeated, and you can go home and clean your guns. |
"KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 10:18 PM: "KMAN" wrote in message ... in article et, rick at wrote on 3/2/05 5:59 PM: snip... You're telling me there aren't poor people in the US in isolated or slum areas where they have a hard time getting a scan at their convenience? Get real. ==================== Another strawman, I see. We aren't talking about their 'convenience', we're talking about the convenience of the medical systam. When that 'poor' person arrives at a medical facility in need, then yes, I'm saying that they will not wait 2 1/2 years for treatment. No one is waiting for treatment. ====================== Yes, they are. Weeks months and years. Even you have agreed to that, now. Nono. Stop being dishonest. I never said no one in Canada is waiting for treatment. ================ Yes, you did. No, I didn't. I respond to your goofy claim that the people in your example were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment when in fact they were all in current receipt of care. Stop being such a scumbag. You owe me an apology but your are too weak and too much of coward to do it. ====================== Nope. Where's yours, liarman? I responded to your allegation that the people featured in the story were waiting for treatment. They aren't. And you are a scumbag for taking my statement out of that context and trying to say that I was referring to all persons in Canada. ===================== No, you replied that no one is waiting for treatment. liarman. You owe me an apology, but you are too weak and too big of a coward to do it. +================= No, I don't. But it seems you have forgotten about your, eh liarman. Proof that people are dying in waiting lines in Canada have been presented to you, yet you are still spewing about a lie you have already taken back. Why is that, liarman? Don't want to discuss your continued willful ignorance? What happened is you blathered on about the people in Newfoundland waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment, and I responded that they are not waiting for treatment. And they aren't. So stop being a scumbag, stop being a coward, suck it up and apologize. Or are you just too weak? ======================== ROTFLMAO You really are this desperate now, aren't you, liarman? I'm not the one that was blathering about it. It was a single post, included with other sites. You have latched onto it in a desperate attempt to divert attention from tha reast of your willful ignorance, people dying while on wait lists. I can understand how you would wnat to continue to spew about a lie you made and have already taken back though, liarman. You want to do that because you cannot refute the fact that you are a proven liar. As to an apology, you are the one that said you would when proven wrong, but as we can see, you lied about that too! Not a surprise though, eh liarman? |
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