On 4-Mar-2005, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

I think I did what Jesus would have done!

And what any reasonable person would do. There are a lot
of unreasonable people out there. The overall message I
take out of the New Testament is to be a decent person.
It's not hard and I don't understand how so many stridently
conservative "Christians" can't muster that.

Mike

On 3-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Yes, they do.

Shall I requote the part about how current information cannot
determine whether or not the deaths are the result of waiting?
That's a quote in the sources you supplied.

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 3-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Yes, they do.

Shall I requote the part about how current information cannot
determine whether or not the deaths are the result of waiting?
That's a quote in the sources you supplied.
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Go ahead, I believe that one was written by Americans. But
again, it was but one site. Other sites, directly involved in
medicine in Canada say that there have been, and continue to be
deaths of people waiting for treatment. Guess you've decided to
take an americans word over that of the canadian Medical Journal,
eh? Nice to see you think Americans are more believable.



Mike

"KMAN" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message


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I don't think you've been paying attention and you are
making
a fool of
yourself. You might want to ask Tinkerntom to point you
to
the post (long
ago) where I conceded that the way I framed the question
allowed you to meet
the burden of proof I requested.
==============================
Yet the proof was presented, and it proves you are a liar
regardless of how you make your claim.

All it proves is that I told you the people in Newfoundland
were not waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment and I was right.

You are a scumbag, and a coward for not admitting your
dishonesty.
==========================
That was but one example to show that you were lying

Whatever you think it was, I never said that no one in Canada
is waiting for
treatment.
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Yes, you did.

No, I didn't. The only evidence that you presented was my
response to your story about Newfoundland, in which you claimed
people were waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment.
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LOL No, fool "I" didn't claim that, I posted the site, a
Canadian site, that states that, and backs it up. Too bad you
can't seem to keep things straight here, eh liarman?


Within the same article, it is pointed out that they
are all in fact in receipt of treatment, and are waiting for a
specific test, a test that they will receive more quickly if
necessary.
==========================
Nope. Their treatment depended on getting the scans fool.



This is not
proof that I said no one in Canada waits for treatment. I never
said that, and it's silly to suggest that I did. Everyone in
every health care system has to wait.
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Thanks for admitting that you originally lied, liarman.


Stop being such a scumbag and apologize. Or are you too big of
a coward?
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Nope. you must be though. Where's yours, liarman?

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I told you the people in Newfoundland were not waiting 2 1/2
years for treatment and I was right.
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No, you weren't. You were lying as usual. Their treatment
did
not start for at least 2 1/2 years.

As stated in the article:

"While the wait is less than ideal, patients' conditions are
being
investigated andfollowed by other medical means, and that
anyone needing an
emergency scan gets one," said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical
chief of
diagnostic imaging at the Health Care Corporation of St.
John's.
======================
Yes, and an emergency scan may be too late. What part of all
this really is over your head? The doctor wants to start
treatment

The doctor states that they are already receiving treatment,
and that anyone who needs the scan earlier will get it.
======================
No, it does not. It specifically says that they do not know the
condition of the boys one remaining kidney.
The point that they can get emergincy scans is bogus, fool. When
the boy deteriorates to the point where it's an emergency the
treatnment that the doctor wanted to provide right away might be
too late. You really are just desperate to continue his thread
because you know you have been proven to have lied also about
people not dying in wait lines.




But whether you believe this means they are in treatment or
not, this does nothing to support your statement that I claimed
no one in Canada waits for treatment.
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Yes, it does... Because that response was not directly at the
point where this boy was being discussed. The whole post was
about wait lists in Canada. You claimed no one was waiting. You
are the one trying to take your statement out of the context of
the discussion because you know you lied, and are continuing to
lie, liarman.



The only statement of mine you have pointed out was my response
to your comment about Newfoundland. I was not speaking about
"all of Canada" or "anyone in Canada" I was disputing your
claim that those people in the article were waiting 2 1/2 years
for treatment.
======================
No, it wasn't, because that isn't when you made your claim,
liarman...


Whether you agree with me on
that or not, you are being extremely dishonest, and a supreme
scumbag by insisting that this somehow means I claimed no one
in Canada waits for treatment.

Stop being a scumbag and apologize. Or are you too big of a
coward?
================
No, not at all, you must be though, where's yours, liarman?

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"rick" wrote in message


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You are a scumbag, and a coward for not admitting your
dishonesty.
==========================
That was but one example to show that you were lying

Whatever you think it was, I never said that no one in Canada
is waiting for
treatment.
=================
Yes, you did.

No, I didn't.
==============
Yes, you did, and 've explained it to you.

The only evidence that you presented was my response to your
story about Newfoundland, in which you claimed people were
waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment. Within the same article, it
is pointed out that they are all in fact in receipt of
treatment,
=================
Another lie, liarman. It does not. The original doctor wants
the scans so he can determine what treatment is necessary. Why
do you continur to lie so much? Genetic?


and are waiting for a specific
test, a test that they will receive more quickly if necessary.
This is not proof that I said no one in Canada waits for
treatment. I never said that, and it's silly to suggest that I
did. Everyone in every health care system has to wait.

Stop being such a scumbag and apologize. Or are you too big of
a coward?
====================
No, not at all, you must be though. Where's your apology,
liarman?

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"KMAN" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message


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I don't think you've been paying attention and you are making
a fool of
yourself. You might want to ask Tinkerntom to point you to
the post (long
ago) where I conceded that the way I framed the question
allowed you to meet
the burden of proof I requested.
==============================
Yet the proof was presented, and it proves you are a liar
regardless of how you make your claim.

All it proves is that I told you the people in Newfoundland
were not waiting 2 1/2 years for treatment and I was right.

You are a scumbag, and a coward for not admitting your
dishonesty.
==========================
That was but one example to show that you were lying

Whatever you think it was, I never said that no one in Canada is
waiting for
treatment.
=================
Yes, you did.

No, I didn't. The only evidence that you presented was my response to
your story about Newfoundland, in which you claimed people were waiting 2
1/2 years for treatment.
==========================
LOL No, fool "I" didn't claim that, I posted the site, a Canadian site,
that states that, and backs it up. Too bad you can't seem to keep things
straight here, eh liarman?

It doesn't matter. Even if we differ on what the article itself says (since
the doctor in the article mentions specifically that all the patients are
under care, I don't know why you perseverate on it) the point is I was only
responding your claim about that one article - I wasn't talking about all of
Canada or all Canadians. I never said no one in Canada ever has to wait for
treatment - which is what you claimed I said.

You owe me an apology, but you are too big of a coward and scumbag to do it.

"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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"rick" wrote in message
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"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article , rick at


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I told you the people in Newfoundland were not waiting 2 1/2
years for treatment and I was right.
==============
No, you weren't. You were lying as usual. Their treatment did
not start for at least 2 1/2 years.

As stated in the article:

"While the wait is less than ideal, patients' conditions are being
investigated andfollowed by other medical means, and that anyone
needing an
emergency scan gets one," said Geoffrey Higgins, clinical chief of
diagnostic imaging at the Health Care Corporation of St. John's.
======================
Yes, and an emergency scan may be too late. What part of all this
really is over your head? The doctor wants to start treatment

The doctor states that they are already receiving treatment, and that
anyone who needs the scan earlier will get it.
======================
No, it does not.

"While the wait is less than ideal, patients' conditions are being
investigated and followed by other medical means"

What does that mean to you, fool? LOL.

Besides, it doesn't matter if we disagree on that article. The fact is,
that's all I was commenting on - your response to that article. And you know
it. So stop being a dishonest scumbag and coward and apologize.

Michael Daly wrote:
On 3-Mar-2005, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

Mike, if God walked up and punched you in the nose, how would you
know
that it is God that did this

If He was in the form of a person, I wouldn't know. If it was
something
that could punch me in the nose but didn't look like a person or any
other common critter, I'd be suspicious. However, I don't know that
"God" would be my first guess.

Mike

Fair enough, I agree that if He punched you in the nose, I suspect you
would be within the bounds of reason if God was not your first guess.
Do you have any thoughts or guesses about what God would do if He
confronted you face to face, if not punch you in the nose? TnT

"Tinkerntom" wrote in message
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Michael Daly wrote:
On 3-Mar-2005, "Tinkerntom" wrote:

Mike, if God walked up and punched you in the nose, how would you
know
that it is God that did this

If He was in the form of a person, I wouldn't know. If it was
something
that could punch me in the nose but didn't look like a person or any
other common critter, I'd be suspicious. However, I don't know that
"God" would be my first guess.

Mike

Fair enough, I agree that if He punched you in the nose, I suspect you
would be within the bounds of reason if God was not your first guess.
Do you have any thoughts or guesses about what God would do if He
confronted you face to face, if not punch you in the nose? TnT

He'd say: "How the hell could you talk about god with Tinkerntom for this
long! I was reading the thread and my head started to hurt so much I tried
to kill myself, but as you know, I'm an omnipotent spirit, to such an extent
that I can't even do myself in!"