On 4-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Go ahead, I believe that one was written by Americans.

Stephen Lewis, one of the authors, is a very well known
Canadian.

One report presents information based on study while the
other reports show unsubstantiated numbers pulled out of
someone's ass. You believe the numbers. I'll believe
the study.

Mike

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
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On 4-Mar-2005, "rick" wrote:

Go ahead, I believe that one was written by Americans.

Stephen Lewis, one of the authors, is a very well known
Canadian.


One report presents information based on study while the
other reports show unsubstantiated numbers pulled out of
someone's ass. You believe the numbers. I'll believe
the study.
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No, the numbers are from the Canadian health system. I realize
that maybe you don't trust that system, so I understand your
hesitation to believe them. But at that, the 'study' does not
refute that deaths occur.




Mike

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Gen 9:6 Whoever sheds man's blood, by man his blood shall be shed, for
in the image of God He made man.

God instituted the death penalty originally, in reference to Creation.
Murder is an affront to God, who created us in His image. If some one
kills a man, it is as if he is trying to kill God! God says that man
should die!


No god I'd believe in would do such a thing. Even the "wrathful and
vengeful" god of the old testament
allowed Cain to wander free (but marked). Yet another reason why I doubt
the "scriptures" were written
by anyone but ordinary men.

....justification for murder deleted

Rick

Tink says:
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Gen 9:6
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my biblical knowledge may be weak, but doesn't this bit pre-date jc?

frtzw906

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
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Tink says:
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Gen 9:6
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my biblical knowledge may be weak, but doesn't this bit pre-date jc?

frtzw906

Not if you accept the idea of the trinity.

Mark --jesus, like 3 in 1 oil, is all purpose--

in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:39 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 1:33 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/4/05 10:04 PM:


snip same old crap

that in no way substantiates your false claim that I said
no
one in Canada ever waits for treatment. You are a
dishonest
scumbag and you owe me an apology.
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No, I don't. And, I'm not the one that claimed they
would,
liarman. Where's yours?

Huh? You claimed I said no one in Canada waits for
treatment.
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Yes, you did

Post a quote from me where I said "no one in Canada waits for
treatment."
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It has been fool, many times now.

It hasn't been posted once, because it doesn't exist.

You are a liar and a scumbag for continuing to insist
otherwise.
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It has been fool, many times now. that you have now admitted
your lie has already beem determined.

If you mean that I agreed that you met the burden of proof on the question I
posed, that is true. I also apologized as promised, if you could do so. Your
views on Canadian health care remain as stupid and ignorant as ever, but
it's not your fault I didn't work the question very well. So, unlike you, I
did not take the scumbag route and refuse to apologize.

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to insist that I
did.

in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:44 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article ,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 2:12 AM:


snip



But I much
prefer what we have to a system where poor people and/or
minorities get
inferior treatment to rich and/or white people.
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Really? Some of the sites I read talk about a systenm in
Canada
that isn't always seen as 'fair' to all either.

Not the Frasier Institute again I hope! LOL. That's sort of
asking the KKK
for information on immigration policies.
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No fool, there are many sites I have found out that discuss the
problems of your health care system.



But yes, there are concerns that the universality of the system
is eroding,
and I would agree with that. But there seems to be a lot of
will to turn
that around, and I think that will be the direction of things.
The vast
majority of Canadians don't want to live in country where
something as basic
as health care becomes the domain of the priveleged.
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Yet you are getting some of that, dispite your wishes.



snip tired old crap

FYI, the above is the sort of thing that would be/is
interesting to discuss.
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Not until you admit the rest of your lies about wait lines in
Canada.

No lies have been told.

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to insist that I
did.

in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 9:49 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article t,
rick at
wrote on 3/6/05 1:40 AM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
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in article
t,
rick at
wrote on 3/4/05 10:23 PM:


snip...

I understand what you said! The rest of the world
understands
what you
said! The only one who will not accept what you meant, and
modified,
and clarified 25 times, is rick, and he may never choose to
acknowledge
your first apology,
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LOL What apology was that? I never saw anything nearing an
apology.

That's because you are too busy being a supreme scumbag and
showing what a
coward you are for refusing to apologize for your deliberate
false
accusations.
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No foll, it's because you weren't man enought o post it to me,
liarman. You buried it in a post to TnT, and even then was
really only apologizing for your ignorant 'wording.'
You are the dishonest one here, liarman...

Sorry you didn't care for the apology.
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Because as I see it, it wasn't an apology to me.

Yes, it was.

And it was not an apology for deliberate wrongdoing, it was an apology
because that was what I offered as an outcome if you could meet the burdern
of proof in response to a question.

You, on the other hand, have made a deliberate false accusation. You claimed
that I said no one in Canada ever waits for treatment. I never said that.
You are a liar and a scumbag and a coward for continuing to insist that I
did.

snip same old crap

in article , Tinkerntom
at wrote on 3/6/05 1:57 PM:


Michael Daly wrote:
On 4-Mar-2005, Scott Weiser wrote:

Then again, one of the justifications put forward for banning
homosexual
sodomy is that such acts are dangerous to the public health. The
AIDS
epidemic among homosexuals lent credence to this justification in
the eyes
of those who make the laws.

The AIDS epidemic is overwhelmingly among heterosexuals. Any
reasonable
source for AIDS statistics will point that out. Blaming homosexuals
for AIDS is nothing but the bias of the ignorant.

Anti-sodomy laws are based
in the same legal theory as laws which proscribe sexual activity
between
adults and children.

The big difference is consent - adults can consent to behavior,
children are assumed to not be able to. Any law that assumes
that adults are not able to consent removes responsibility from
adults and puts it in the hands of the law. Hardly a description
of a free country.

(such as pedophilia or rape) then you implicitly agree that
the state has the power to decide WHICH sexual behavior it wishes
to
control.

Pedophilia or rape do not involve consent. Behavior that does should
not
be controled by the state.

Mike

Just in passing, do you drive on the right side, or the left side of
the street in Canada? TnT

We don't have cars yet, Tinkerntom. Geezus. Our countries are attached. Why
is Canada such a big mystery?

bearsbuddy says:
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Not if you accept the idea of the trinity.
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so.... if i accept the trinity, then timelines become irrelevant? is
the trinity some kind of timemachine?

frtzw906