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rick March 7th 05 11:07 PM


"KMAN" wrote in message
. ..

"BCITORGB" wrote in message
oups.com...
Weiser says:
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...what IS for everybody is the right to CHOOSE to be armed,
or not to
be armed. That is something that NO ONE has a right to deny
them, ever.

=================

You're contradicting yourself. Not too many days ago you
asserted that
there is no "right" for gays to marry gays. You were quite
clear in
stating that it was up to the state to make such decisions.

So, how exactly is this behavior -- the carrying of guns -- a
"higher"
right that NO ONE (I'm assuming, not even the state) has the
right to
deny? Either the state has the right to govern behaviors or it
doesn't.
Which is it Scott?

frtzw906


That's what it all comes down to for gun nuts. The right to
carry a gun is more important than ANYTHING.

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Except to you, your being a willfully ignorant liar is by far the
most inportant thing to you, eh liarman?







bearsbuddy March 7th 05 11:16 PM


"rick" wrote in message
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Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about. I suggest
you read with a little more comprehension. He has been asserting that he
never claimed that no one is WAITING for treatment in Canada. That was
his second lie. His first one, and one that he still hasn't retracted was
that nobody dies while waiting for treatment in Canada. maybe you can get
him to admit he lied about that too. Good luck though...


Please direct me to the thread and I will address his "lies," as you call
them.


Why?


Because I am not arguing anyones point. I merely asked a question that you
find impossible to answer.

That wasn't in the discussion. It is but yet another strawman to avoid the
original posts that proved makn was, and is lying. That you have to focus
on other systems says you don't have alot to defend in the Canadian system.
If you could read for comprehesion, I have stated in this thread several
times that the US system, as with many systems around the world have
serious problems. No where have I defended it. Now, if you would like to
discuss the lies presented here, go right ahead, but the deversions aren't
working...


Are you seeing Boogymen under you bed?

Mark




bearsbuddy March 7th 05 11:20 PM


"rick" wrote in message
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Exactly, how old are you rick?

"liarman"? Please!

Mark



rick March 7th 05 11:34 PM


"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the
deliberate lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.

KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about.
I suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has
been asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING
for treatment in Canada. That was his second lie. His first
one, and one that he still hasn't retracted was that nobody
dies while waiting for treatment in Canada. maybe you can get
him to admit he lied about that too. Good luck though...


Please direct me to the thread and I will address his "lies,"
as you call them.

========================
You're in the thread.




Why?


Because I am not arguing anyones point. I merely asked a
question that you find impossible to answer.

=================
No, I don't.


That wasn't in the discussion. It is but yet another strawman
to avoid the original posts that proved makn was, and is lying.
That you have to focus on other systems says you don't have
alot to defend in the Canadian system. If you could read for
comprehesion, I have stated in this thread several times that
the US system, as with many systems around the world have
serious problems. No where have I defended it. Now, if you
would like to discuss the lies presented here, go right ahead,
but the deversions aren't working...


Are you seeing Boogymen under you bed?

====================
Why, are you? Projecting your problems of comprehension?



Mark






rick March 7th 05 11:35 PM


"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
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Exactly, how old are you rick?

"liarman"? Please!

======================
Yes, please ask him to replace his lies.



Mark




bearsbuddy March 7th 05 11:38 PM


"rick" wrote in message
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Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in my
question?


You never addressed the above, why not?


You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It make you look
uneducated.

Mark



rick March 8th 05 12:18 AM


"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

You never addressed the above, why not?


You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It make
you look uneducated.

======================
LOL I see you are just as dishonest in your snipping, eh? Looks
to me like you cannot discuss what I said, so why bother with
yours? You can pretend to be asking a real question, but since
you have snipped out everything around it, without annotating
your snips, it just makes you look foolish and dishonest.





Mark




bearsbuddy March 8th 05 12:33 AM


"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into play in
my
question?

You never addressed the above, why not?


You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It make you look
uneducated.

======================
LOL I see you are just as dishonest in your snipping, eh? Looks to me
like you cannot discuss what I said, so why bother with yours? You can
pretend to be asking a real question, but since you have snipped out
everything around it, without annotating your snips, it just makes you
look foolish and dishonest.


Your mommy makes you go to bed without dinner quite often, I take it.

Mark --she should take you 'puter away for a while--



rick March 8th 05 01:00 AM


"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
ink.net...

Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come
into play in my
question?

You never addressed the above, why not?

You ought not use words that you aren't familiar with. It
make you look uneducated.

======================
LOL I see you are just as dishonest in your snipping, eh?
Looks to me like you cannot discuss what I said, so why bother
with yours? You can pretend to be asking a real question, but
since you have snipped out everything around it, without
annotating your snips, it just makes you look foolish and
dishonest.


Your mommy makes you go to bed without dinner quite often, I
take it.

========================
I see you still have nothing to say. Can't quite stay on track,
eh?



Mark --she should take you 'puter away for a while--





KMAN March 8th 05 03:58 AM

in article et, rick at
wrote on 3/7/05 6:06 PM:


"bearsbuddy" wrote in message
...

"rick" wrote in message
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"Mark H. Bowen" wrote in
message
.. .
Rick,

Is it your position that Americans don't die while waiting
for health
care, because of the convenience of the U.S. healthcare
system?
======================
Another mind-numbed jingoistic chest-thumper?


Please enlighten me! Where exactly does jingoism come into
play in my
question?

No. I have stated that the US system has many many faults.
My entry into this 'discussion' was prompted by the deliberate
lies that
kman made about no one dying while waiting for treatment in
Canada.


KMAN has stated on numerous occasions that he didn't assert
that "no one
[is] dying while waiting for treatment in Canada."

=====================
No, that isn't what his latest assertion have been all about. I
suggest you read with a little more comprehension. He has been
asserting that he never claimed that no one is WAITING for
treatment in Canada.


Which is correct. I never did. The only quote you have posted from me was
made in response to your interpretation of a story about people in
Newfoundland waiting for a specific type of test while under a doctor's
care. Whether my interpretation of that story is correct or not, we know
what it does not say: that no one in Canada is waiting for treatment. Since
it is obvious that everyone in every health care system has to wait for
treatment (that's why they have waiting rooms) I neither said, nor believe,
that no one in Canada is waiting.

You know I never said any such thing. You are making a deliberate false
accusation, and you are a scumbag and coward for continuing to do so.





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