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Most people with a ****ing brain would consider this an acceptable trade
off. That means that 97.8% of the employed people are being paid a
living wage instead of an unacceptable percentage living in poverty.

No, it doesn't. A lot of them are laid off and find
work in other jobs right away, at no better wage than
they had.


Then we're not doing a very good job at training them for making a wage
that'd keep them out of jobs that cannot provide a living wage.

I'd rather have the training problem than the poverty issue any day. It
doesn't surprise me you don't understand since your team's only real
concern is making certain corporate profits are maximized.

Hey poopsy! Corporate America would like nothing better than to have a
large pool of trained workers to draw from. Whose fault is it that such
a pool doesn't exist? Our public schools? Delinquent parents? Lack of
ambition? Or is this Corporate America's fault?

If anyone needs a kick in the shorts it's parents and the NEA.
LZ

The NEA isn't to blame. You cannot teach them who don't want to be
taught. As far as parents are concerned, I don't disagree.

Tell me LZ, who should be doing the kicking and what are the
consequences?

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'jps' and Harry Dumbo Krause just don't like Microsoft
because they're big business, and as
accomplishment-free whiners, they feel they have no
choice but to hate the accomplished.

Your assumptions are, as usual, hate-filled and without basis.

I make my business based on the research and development Microsoft has
funded and brought to market.

While I disagree with some of Bill's tactics and believe he should be
held accountable, without his aggressive pursuit of Microsoft goals the
PC industry would be far behind where it is today.

I think competition is healthy AND he didn't make his fortune by holding
his employees heads under water, like Walmart.

I absolutely love the fact that he's redistributing his personal fortune
to humane projects that'd otherwise be non-existent.

jps

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Ah, but where's the emotional satisfaction in that?
Lying hate-blinded ideologues like 'jps' NEED devils
with names and faces to blame for what they falsely
consider to be injustice.

In my eyes a society is meant to look after all its peoples, even those
with mental illness.

Those without a voice are least able to affect the system. They require
advocates and you're certainly not one of them.

Someone has to argue against you selfish ****ers who'd gladly sacrifice
a person's well being for a penny or two.

jps

Precisely on point.

Sometimes these Konservatrashers get the point. Perhaps a family member
will be hit by a chronic and severe mental illness. After a few years of
expensive meds and hospitalizations, the insurance bennies might run
out, and then the savings are depleted, and then the family members
start looking around for assistance, even if it is public assistance of
some kind. A quality mental health hospital runs about $2000 a day, and
while hospitizations these days are for short periods of time, there may
be successive visits over the course of a year.

My wife, God bless her, has managed to "convert" some righties who after
a few years of treatment for themselves or for a family member for
serious mental illness were very grateful that some sort of assistance
could be found to help them pay for drugs and hospitalizations. I doubt
these folks will ever for another Repubican as long as they live.

We are our brothers' keepers.

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'jps' and Harry Dumbo Krause just don't like Microsoft
because they're big business, and as
accomplishment-free whiners, they feel they have no
choice but to hate the accomplished.

Your assumptions are, as usual, hate-filled and without basis.


Ball has marbles running around inside his head. All of our computers
run Microsoft operating systems and Microsoft Office application
software. Most of Microsoft's app software is ok, but I really prefer
WordPerfect to WORD, and Mozilla to Internet Explorer and Outlook Express.

This is really fun stuff. The pit viper of Australia accuses me of
leading the cheerleading section for Microsoft and Ball-less says I
don't like Microsoft. Perhaps we can arrange a date between the two of
them. If they mate, they can raise a generation of toothless vipers.



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Sounds to me like you are taking power from the people and shipping it
to Washington.

Jerk,

Individual states would be welcome to exceed Federal standards if their
elected officials saw fit to pass legislation supporting such policies.

A Federal standard would ensure that, under no circumstances would
people be treated at less than a minimum standard.

So perhaps you can explain how that's not giving people power?

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Perhaps we can arrange a date between the two of
them. If they mate, they can raise a generation of toothless vipers.

I think their parents have that covered.

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From a recent ABC news report:

This group bulged in size, largely due to a deliberate process of
"deinstitutionalization" first begun in the 1950s. A patient's best
interest, mental health experts then agreed, was served not so much by
long-term residential care, as by community outpatient treatment. As a
result, the number of resident mental health patients in the U.S.
dropped from 559,000 in 1955 to only 54,000 in 2000, Manderscheid
reports.

But the community outpatient care system that mental health providers
had hoped to build failed to blossom. A federal grant helped construct
about 750 new community health centers between 1963 and 1978; but when
the Reagan administration converted remaining funding into block grants
to states, most opted to finance currently existing mental health
centers, rather than build new ones. According to Manderscheid, the
envisioned community mental health system "froze at that point in time."

The psychiatric ER stepped in to fill the gap in community mental health
care. Variously described as a place patients choose over prison or a
homeless shelter, or where social service agencies "dump" their toughest
cases, the psychiatric ER can play a recurring role in a patient's
behavioral pattern or disease cycle and is often the last line of
defense for repeat patients known as "frequent fliers."

As deinstitutionalization continued, releasing many of the mentally ill
to their hometowns, large numbers discovered they lacked families and
communities willing or able to care for them. Now homeless, unemployed
and uninsured, any health crisis brought them to the steps of the ER =3F
the one place that cannot turn them away.


According to logic, you should blame the states for diverting the money,
not Reagan for making the funds available in a different format.

Nitwit.
LZ


Certainly, the states bear some responsibility but I don't think our
national mental health policy should be administered at the state level.

They bear ALL of it: the money was there.


Further, it's a long known strategy to decentralized in order to weaken.

Thanks for confirming that you don't believe in democracy.


The Reagan and the present Bush Administration know the easiest way to
eviscerate a program is to hand the money to the states. They're all in
terrible shape and would divert the money in a moment's notice to those
with a louder voice.

That's why I blame the Reagan Admin.

No, that's not why, lying cocksucker. You blame him
because it's an irrational, knee-jerk, hate-based
reaction you can't control.

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The Olin *Foundation* does not own a munitions factory.


No, the Olin family owns both the munitions factory and the Olin
Foundation Little nebbishball.

Show us the deed.
LZ


Here, find it for yourself. I don't need to spoon feed you.

http://www.cursor.org/about/themoney.php

Leftist bull****. Anything that has a quote from Eric
Alterman at the top is not to be trusted even to tell
you the correct time of day.

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Don't use logic on JPS. It just confuses him.
LZ


Giggle all you want LZ, I think we need a national health policy that
looks after people in states that would be as backwards as possible
given the chance.

Oh, just another garden-variety communist.

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Ah, but where's the emotional satisfaction in that?
Lying hate-blinded ideologues like 'jps' NEED devils
with names and faces to blame for what they falsely
consider to be injustice.


In my eyes a society is meant to look after all its peoples, even those
with mental illness.

You are morally blind, so we quite sensibly don't take
moral direction from you.

You do it at your own expense, if you wish. Leave the
rest of us out of your misplaced pity.