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Friday Ethics Question
Harry Krause wrote:
Dave Hall wrote: Harry Krause wrote: Dave Hall wrote: Paul Schilter wrote: Dave, I take exception to your term of "liberal", I may be more liberal than yourself, but no where near where Harry is at. Perhaps you should use the term "Extreme" as a definer, just so you don't paint such a wide swatch. I guess this is a problem with labels, we wear so many different ones on different issues. I rather doubt that when we vote for someone, we vote for a person that believes just like we do.All of life is a compromise. Point taken. And you are correct. Harry displays a form of liberalism that is equivilent in position to Jerry Falwell on the opposite side. Dave You know, Dave, you are such an intellectual numnutz, you're pathetic. On a legitimate scale of liberal to conservative, with moderate as the center, I'd fall a few hairs left of moderate. What views do you think I hold that would put me "opposite" the Rev. Mr. Falwell on the political scale? That I'm pro-choice? I'd say about half of Americans are pro-choice. That I think George W. Bush is not worthy of being POTUS? More voters thought that way than thought he was suitable. That I think Bush's Iraq policies are so much crap? That's the position held by at least half of America. That I'm in favor of many government programs that aid the needy? Well, so are most Americans. That I think our system of providing decent medical care to every American sucks big time? Well, so do most Americans. That I think that the UN, despite its faults, is the best bet for doing what it does, despite the efforts of the right to demonize it? So do most Americans. That I think people like you, who hold far-right extremist views, represent a real danger to our democracy? Well, so do most Americans who think about such issues. None of your claims are substantiated with anything any more credible than your own opinion, so that makes them skeptical at best. Dave Uh, Dave...what I posted here are not claims. if you check the results of legitimate opinion surveys going back quite a few years, you'll see that about everything I have posited here in terms of what I believe and support is quite moderate and mainstream. Which views have I posted immediately above that wouldn't be supported by about 50% of Americans? Almost all of them. I could post some stats of my own, but you'd just dismiss them as more "right wing crap". My views are moderate and mainstream, Dave. You are the one way out there on the edge of wetness, sitting on the right-wing extremist bench with ol' Karl Derringer. Says you. According to an on-line survey that was features here a month or so back, I fall to the left of GWB, and only slightly to the right of center. You're a right-wing control freak, Dave Control? Hardly. I'm for freedom, the freedom of choice. As long as those choices are not morally wrong. I'm for school choice, the right to carry arms, the right to pick your retirement plan, the right to pick your health insurance, the right to keep the money you earn, the right to ride jet ski's in front of your home. Things you have opposed at some point in the past. So who's really the control freak here? with an overlay of rigid personality. Your posts here over the years prove it. You mistaken a rigid personality with adherence to principles. The priciples of logic are unwavering, and dedication to those principles is as well. I'm certainly to the left of you...quite far to the left, actually, but that just places me slightly left of center. Where the center falls, depends on your perspective. Dave |
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