Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15?

Some models of the AR15 are banned. (new manufacture) as are some modifications
to a stock Mini14. It all depends on the features. A banned gun has TWO of the
laundry list of evil things. Bayonet lug, folding stock, flash hider,
detachable mag, pistol grip etc.
If you have a pre-ban gun you can still have and sell it everywhere except
D.C., Ca, Nj and perhaps some other states.

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15?

Some models of the AR15 are banned. (new manufacture) as are some
modifications
to a stock Mini14. It all depends on the features. A banned gun has TWO of
the
laundry list of evil things. Bayonet lug, folding stock, flash hider,
detachable mag, pistol grip etc.
If you have a pre-ban gun you can still have and sell it everywhere except
D.C., Ca, Nj and perhaps some other states.

Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.

Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.


the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a nich
market in these things.

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.


the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of
doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no
particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was
announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why
they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a
nich
market in these things.

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his
pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his
pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price of
production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone prove it
isn't 10 years old a week later.

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of
his
pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price
of
production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone
prove it
isn't 10 years old a week later.

Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
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Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his

pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price

of

production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it

isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

My shooting experience comes from shooting vermin attacking my show ducks at
night in the pen.
In that scenario you get one shot. Ducks quack, I perch, wife flips on 750
watt stage light, and the critter will freeze for about ONE second with the
"deer in the headlights" thing going on. You gotta bead it and pull pretty
fast. Most I've used is 3 shots because I was too slow and had to "spray
and pray" at a runner. And no, I never shot a duck by mistake. (I never
shot a duck on purpose either.)

As a funny story, I got my first practices as a kid shooting bees with a
friends pellet gun. I got pretty good at it, even moving ones. One day a
Canadian goose landed WELL within range. I had no doubt I could make a clean
head shot and have it stuffed and in the oven before my mother could say
"whats cookin'? LOL. So I pumped the thing up to 13 out of 10 pumps (heh)
and lined up on this big fat goose. I was so damn sure of myself, I was
already planning out how fast we could feather and eviscerate it. Alas, I
forgot the safety on and my sudden (surprised) movement to release the
safety spooked my meal and it flew off. What's funnier is that Charlie's
father is an ex-marine and drilled us on safety. He was a chef too and was
already rattling off recipies for goose when we all found out Wayne left the
safety on. He felt pretty good that he had us trained to always reset the
safety after a shot, but commented that I seemed to need more work on the
part about taking the safety OFF before aiming. Fact is, I'm still sloppy
at releasing the safety to this day. Before my wife flips on the 750 watt
light, I have HER trained to whisper, "safety OFF". LOL.

I don't know how I'd be with a handgun vs an attacker, I'm more of a sniper
type than a pistol shooter. hehe It took me a LOT of practice to get good
with a rifle. I'm too lazy to start all over with a handgun. We own a 22
handgun with a fairly long barrel, and I think I suck with it, at least
comparing it to my rifle scores. I ususally leave it in the box and play
with the rifle.

-W




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message newsKamb.2922

Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either
6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

/agree

The "ban" as it was worded really didn't do anything "functional". It only
made for making collectors and enthusiasts lives miserable having to deal
with minutia.

The only real parts of the weapon usefull for "killing more people" are big
magazines, and perhaps the flash supressor if it's dark out and you're
sniping. That said, if I was so disposed to dispatch someone - one bullet
would be enough, three if I wanted to "extra sure". I'm very glad those
Iraqi "snipers" can't shoot for ****.

That said, you couldn't make a magazine big enough for me. I'm lazy and
hate to re-load at the range. You pay for a booth by the hour and reloading
wastes time and money. My semi has two functional 10 round clips and a
broken 40 round clip that I might be able to fix. I *wish* I had four 50
round clips when I'm at the range though - hehe.

-W (way overdue for a trip to the range, now that I think of it)


"Gfretwell" wrote in message

the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of
doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no
particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was
announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why
they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a
nich
market in these things.

Funny you should ask, I blew the receiver out on my Mini-14 about 10
years ago, but I was using my own RCB reloads, so I figure I must of
packed a hot load, Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho. UD