Neither of them are banned. High capacity magazines are banned from
further manufacture for the US markets. They are very available as used
parts though.

The Mini-14 is in current production at Ruger.

The Ak-47 is being built all over the third world. I don't really like
the AK, as it is cheaply built and wears out after 2 or 3 thousand rounds.

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Butch Ammon wrote:

Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15? I know that one of them is
banned on the Brady Bill or whatever law the Clinton's enabled or the senator
from CA named Diane Feinstein or whomever.

Butch Ammon


In rec.guns every now and then, someone says "....but whatever you do, don't
buy a mini-14". Meanwhile, there are millions of them out there owned by
people who seem to like them. Any trouble with yours?

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
rthlink.net...

Hi Butch,

When out and about, I carry a Ruger Mini-14 stainless ranch rifle (.223
semi-auto) 2 40 round magazines and my P-90 .45 cal.

I had an alarm installed which dials my cell & home phone. It will
inform me of high water, loss of electrical power, fire, or break in. In
case of break in, the alarm box sounds the horns and a very piercing
siren in the cabin. All in all, it makes quite a ruckus. It cost about
$600 bucks but is, I think worth it.

Capt. Frank

Thanks Greg, I wasn't aware of the "2" evils thing.

Capt. Frank

Gfretwell wrote:

Isn't the "mini-14" banned? Or is it the AR-15?


Some models of the AR15 are banned. (new manufacture) as are some modifications
to a stock Mini14. It all depends on the features. A banned gun has TWO of the
laundry list of evil things. Bayonet lug, folding stock, flash hider,
detachable mag, pistol grip etc.
If you have a pre-ban gun you can still have and sell it everywhere except
D.C., Ca, Nj and perhaps some other states.

Hi all,

The "gun hater club" doesn't have a firm grip on reality. I suppose
their brain's are a quart short of a gallon.

"For the first time in the history of civilization, a nation has become
free from the scourge firearms"

Adolph Hitler 1936

Regards,

Capt. Frank

Gfretwell wrote:

Bayonet lug. Now that's silly. I can buy a pitchfork, sharpen it up real
nice and do more damage.



the whole "assault weapons ban" was dumb. It was just the perception of doing
something while calling attention to a class of weapons that were no particular
problem and making them an investment opportunity. After thae ban was announced
2 MILLION were sold, most from China, to people who don't have a clue why they
bought them or what they are going to do with them, since the market is
saturated.
If the gun haters had kept their mouth shut there would only have been a nich
market in these things.

Again, I exclaim the virtues of buying new ammo! It is way too easy to
screw up with a re-load.

How does your 500 hold up un salt air? I was looking at one myself.

Regards,

Capt Frank

UglyDan®©™ wrote:

Funny you should ask, I blew the receiver out on my Mini-14 about 10
years ago, but I was using my own RCB reloads, so I figure I must of
packed a hot load, Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho. UD

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...


None the less, I would not travel unarmed. There are too many "scary
things" out there.


Yeah...I've run into some very odd people while fishing alone in remote
places. Much happier now with a friend on my belt. Fishing is church for me.
I have no patience for nonsense when I'm in church. Zip. Nada.

I think most serious boaters carry at least a "shark" gun. I should not
be surprised if they have several weapons when on the open sea. One
would be a fool not to.

My wife can out shoot me with the Mini-14 too. It has just a little more
recoil then a .22lr. The Browning .300 Mag scares the crap out of her.
The first (and only) time she lit it off, she fell on her fundament, and
her shoulder was sore for several days.


Regards,

Capt. Frank

Butch Ammon wrote:

....Carry a Mossberg 500a SS with the line throwing kit
aboard tho.


All I have is an old Marlin Mod 60 .22LR and a newer Remington 870 12GA, which
I bust clays with and also go hunting with.

I took my daughters with me one time down to the local wildlife managment
area's outdoor range. We took turn plinking with the Marlin .22 - believe it
or not, one of my girls actually out-shot me at 50 yards! I was safe and fun
for us. My girls are now young ladies, as they are 17 yrs old and thank God,
they know right from wrong. They don't care for the 870 12GA and skeet
shooting though. The recoil was a bit much for them.

Anyway, I wonder how many non-hunting people carry a firearm onboard a boat?

Butch Ammon

Naa, Janet's over at the Branch Dividian's annual barbecue. This year
they are featuring the new Jeffrey Dalmer brand sauce.

G

C.F.

Keith wrote:

Janet Reno...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


Keith wrote:


I've got a pre-ban AR-15 that's worth a lot now, just because of the

"ban".

I also bought a bunch of 30 round clips, and a couple of 150 round
magazines, just because they were going to be banned. Yea, the anti-gun

nuts

really scored on that one!

Gee...are you expecting John Asscroft to come calling?



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Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".

IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In
most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them
quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are
exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I
think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy.

I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews)
vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug
smugglers.

Regards,

Capt. Frank



Doug Kanter wrote:

"Gfretwell" wrote in message
...

Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of

his

pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an
arsenal. :-)



That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price

of

production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15.
How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a
pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone

prove it

isn't 10 years old a week later.


Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.

"Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message
k.net...
Doug my Friend,

Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to
hit the target "center mass".


Well...I'm talking about creeks and small rivers in the Adirondacks. Most
pirates are gonna be on foot, canoe, or in a boat as small as mine. And,
next year, the old revolver gets traded in for a Ruger Redhawk in .458
Casull. Just in case. :-)

My shooting experience comes from shooting vermin attacking my show ducks at
night in the pen.
In that scenario you get one shot. Ducks quack, I perch, wife flips on 750
watt stage light, and the critter will freeze for about ONE second with the
"deer in the headlights" thing going on. You gotta bead it and pull pretty
fast. Most I've used is 3 shots because I was too slow and had to "spray
and pray" at a runner. And no, I never shot a duck by mistake. (I never
shot a duck on purpose either.)

As a funny story, I got my first practices as a kid shooting bees with a
friends pellet gun. I got pretty good at it, even moving ones. One day a
Canadian goose landed WELL within range. I had no doubt I could make a clean
head shot and have it stuffed and in the oven before my mother could say
"whats cookin'? LOL. So I pumped the thing up to 13 out of 10 pumps (heh)
and lined up on this big fat goose. I was so damn sure of myself, I was
already planning out how fast we could feather and eviscerate it. Alas, I
forgot the safety on and my sudden (surprised) movement to release the
safety spooked my meal and it flew off. What's funnier is that Charlie's
father is an ex-marine and drilled us on safety. He was a chef too and was
already rattling off recipies for goose when we all found out Wayne left the
safety on. He felt pretty good that he had us trained to always reset the
safety after a shot, but commented that I seemed to need more work on the
part about taking the safety OFF before aiming. Fact is, I'm still sloppy
at releasing the safety to this day. Before my wife flips on the 750 watt
light, I have HER trained to whisper, "safety OFF". LOL.

I don't know how I'd be with a handgun vs an attacker, I'm more of a sniper
type than a pistol shooter. hehe It took me a LOT of practice to get good
with a rifle. I'm too lazy to start all over with a handgun. We own a 22
handgun with a fairly long barrel, and I think I suck with it, at least
comparing it to my rifle scores. I ususally leave it in the box and play
with the rifle.

-W




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message newsKamb.2922

Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either
6
or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real
problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick.