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Serious question here Frank?
When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool, or at most a spotter. Let's say I'm in strange water and armed. OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a 7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL. -W "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. |
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I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's possible. -W "Clams Canino" wrote in message news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01... Serious question here Frank? When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool, or at most a spotter. Let's say I'm in strange water and armed. OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a 7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL. -W "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. |
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Well, true enough, pirates don't fly the jolly roger anymore.
In the Caribbean and along the mosquito coast they are fairly easy to id. They generally are coming at you quite fast, and if you give them the once over with a good pair of binox you can see the murder in their eye. At this point, turn bow away and pour the coals to your motor. If they chase you, its a good bet they are pirates. Just don't take chances with these boyos. They will kill you and your whole family for the contents of your fridge or your new fishing reel. We are talking about a whole different type of animal here. Third world... They have no "morals" and no conscience. (And no internet rec. boats discussion group either.) They kill because its a convenient means to get supplies or money. If they get too close, put a round across their bow. If they keep coming, start aiming for between the eyes. On the other hand, If its someone in distress, you will know it. A couple of approach rules: Always approach the "distress" vessel from the stern. Stand well off! You can see what's happening in their deck and cabin. You can also see if their engine is running. Never-Never-NEVER come alongside. Hold negotiations from your bow to their stern. If their boat is "on fire" DON'T COME ALONGSIDE! Scream for the COAST GUARD on your marine radio. Pull the string on the EPRIB. That will provoke a very fast response. Order them into life preservers for a swim to your boat. Cover them with the weapon of choice until you have confirmed they are unarmed. Their wet clothes will stick to them and outline a gun or knife. If they outnumber your crew, keep them covered until the Coast Guard arrives. Regards, Capt. Frank Clams Canino wrote: Serious question here Frank? When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool, or at most a spotter. Let's say I'm in strange water and armed. OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a 7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL. -W "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. |
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Sorry the reply took so long. I was busy making a living.
Capt. Frank Clams Canino wrote: I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's possible. -W "Clams Canino" wrote in message news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01... Serious question here Frank? When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool, or at most a spotter. Let's say I'm in strange water and armed. OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a 7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL. -W "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message ink.net... IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. |
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Capt. Frank Hopkins wrote: We are talking about a whole different type of animal here. Third world... They have no "morals" and no conscience. Sort of like the Bush Administration, eh? -- __________________________________________________ __________ Email sent to will never reach me. |
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Clams Canino wrote: I'm still waiting for this......... I really wanna know how to identify and shoot pie-rats at any kind of "safe range" for me. I can't see how it's possible. -W "Clams Canino" wrote in message news:lFfmb.20419$HS4.70919@attbi_s01... Serious question here Frank? When a vessel is far away from you, how can you identify it as "pirates"? I mean, I don't have to worry about lake pirates where I am, but my instinct is that most approaching vessels want to borrow a beer, a lighter, a tool, or at most a spotter. Let's say I'm in strange water and armed. OK, with my rifle (assuming I had a bigger clip - LOL) I could prolly kill the engines and most of the crew of an approaching vessel, or at least enough to make it turn around in a big hurry. But how the hell would I be able to guage INTENT untill they got too *close* to be able to outgun a bunch of people? I mean shooting a boat full of doods that wanna borrow a 7/16 socket is NOT an option anyway I slice it - LOL. -W "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. It usually isn't, at least not in this hemisphere. What we have here is gun talk bravado, nothing more. -- __________________________________________________ __________ Email sent to will never reach me. |
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How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great
stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad. "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... Doug my Friend, Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to hit the target "center mass". IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews) vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug smugglers. Regards, Capt. Frank Doug Kanter wrote: "Gfretwell" wrote in message ... Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an arsenal. :-) That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price of production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15. How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone prove it isn't 10 years old a week later. Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6 or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick. |
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Keith wrote: How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad. "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... Doug my Friend, Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to hit the target "center mass". IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews) vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug smugglers. Regards, Capt. Frank Doug Kanter wrote: "Gfretwell" wrote in message ... Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an arsenal. :-) That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price of production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15. How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone prove it isn't 10 years old a week later. Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6 or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick. Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun? -- __________________________________________________ __________ Email sent to will never reach me. |
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..50 cal?!? That could work! Or perhaps a CWIS
Capt. Frank Keith wrote: How about a nice .50 caliber to take out the engines? Good range and great stopping power. Be sure to wear a shoulder pad. "Capt. Frank Hopkins" wrote in message k.net... Doug my Friend, Pirates don't come at you one at a time. But, it is well you are able to hit the target "center mass". IMHO it is better to kill their engines while well away from you. In most cases 2 or 3 rounds in the water near their bow will turn them quickly. Pirates are thieves, and not too brave. But there are exceptions, especially in areas of The Gulf of Mexico or Dry Tortugas. I think its a Macho thing. Or, Perhaps they are just crazy. I don't know for sure. I do know a lot of private vessels (and crews) vanish out there, and the boats turn up later in the possession of drug smugglers. Regards, Capt. Frank Doug Kanter wrote: "Gfretwell" wrote in message ... Last summer, a vendor at a gun show said he loved the ban. The value of his pre-ban magazines quadrupled. Now he's able to buy more guns and have an arsenal. :-) That guy was pumping you. Hi Cap mags are all over for virtually the price of production. I can get all the 23-30rd M14 mags I want for $15. How do you regulate something that NEVER had a S/N on it? You can fab up a pretty good magazine in any small steel stamping shop and let someone prove it isn't 10 years old a week later. Maybe, but I'm not a buyer for those anyway. I carry handguns with either 6 or 7 rounds. If a single attacker's not down in 3 shots, I have a real problem, and 10 more ain't gonna do the trick. |
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Why stop there? Why not a 105 mm deck gun?
You can buy a nice M2 (for about the price of a 25' center console, plus a $200 tax stamp) but you can't own anything with a bore greater than .5" unless it is a shotgun or muzzle loader (Gun Control Act of 1968). You could get a few muzzle loading cannon though ;-) "Arrr, come along side and lay a broadside among her timbers matey!" |
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