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Researchers in the United States claim to have established a
convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide,
according to a new study.

The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,
challenges the National Rifle Association’s claim that increased gun
ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.

Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that
for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a
given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.

In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the
study used a proxy variable — the percentage of a state’s suicides
committed with a firearm — that has been validated in previous
research.

The study, led by Boston University community health sciences
professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December
2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in
Newtown, Connecticut.

“In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown … many states are
considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths,” said
Siegel in a statement.

“This research is the strongest to date to document that states with
higher levels of gun ownership have disproportionately large numbers
of deaths from firearm-related homicides,” he said.

“It suggests that measures which succeed in decreasing the overall
prevalence of guns will lower firearm homicide rates.”

The study found that, over three decades, the mean estimated
percentage of gun ownership ranged from a low of 25.8 percent in
Hawaii to a high of 76.8 percent in Mississippi, with a national
average of 57.7 percent.

The mean age-adjusted firearm homicide rate stretched from 0.9 percent
per 100,000 in New Hampshire to 1.8 percent in Louisiana, with an
average for all states of four per 100,000.

The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide
for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in
2010.

Firearms were involved in 11,078 homicides of the 16,259 homicides in
the United States in 2010, the latest year for which data is
available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and
Prevention.
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On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:38:46 AM UTC-5, jps wrote:
Researchers in the United States claim to have established a

convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide,

according to a new study.



The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,

challenges the National Rifle Association s claim that increased gun

ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.



Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that

for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a

given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.



In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the

study used a proxy variable the percentage of a state s suicides

committed with a firearm that has been validated in previous

research.



The study, led by Boston University community health sciences

professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December

2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in

Newtown, Connecticut.



In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown many states are

considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths, said

Siegel in a statement.



This research is the strongest to date to document that states with

higher levels of gun ownership have disproportionately large numbers

of deaths from firearm-related homicides, he said.



It suggests that measures which succeed in decreasing the overall

prevalence of guns will lower firearm homicide rates.



The study found that, over three decades, the mean estimated

percentage of gun ownership ranged from a low of 25.8 percent in

Hawaii to a high of 76.8 percent in Mississippi, with a national

average of 57.7 percent.



The mean age-adjusted firearm homicide rate stretched from 0.9 percent

per 100,000 in New Hampshire to 1.8 percent in Louisiana, with an

average for all states of four per 100,000.



The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide

for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in

2010.



Firearms were involved in 11,078 homicides of the 16,259 homicides in

the United States in 2010, the latest year for which data is

available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention.


Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they "observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow guns."

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...ence-with-ban/

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On 9/13/13 7:10 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:38:46 AM UTC-5, jps wrote:
Researchers in the United States claim to have established a

convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide,

according to a new study.



The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,

challenges the National Rifle Association s claim that increased gun

ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.



Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that

for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a

given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.



In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the

study used a proxy variable the percentage of a state s suicides

committed with a firearm that has been validated in previous

research.



The study, led by Boston University community health sciences

professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December

2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in

Newtown, Connecticut.



In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown many states are

considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths, said

Siegel in a statement.



This research is the strongest to date to document that states with

higher levels of gun ownership have disproportionately large numbers

of deaths from firearm-related homicides, he said.



It suggests that measures which succeed in decreasing the overall

prevalence of guns will lower firearm homicide rates.



The study found that, over three decades, the mean estimated

percentage of gun ownership ranged from a low of 25.8 percent in

Hawaii to a high of 76.8 percent in Mississippi, with a national

average of 57.7 percent.



The mean age-adjusted firearm homicide rate stretched from 0.9 percent

per 100,000 in New Hampshire to 1.8 percent in Louisiana, with an

average for all states of four per 100,000.



The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide

for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in

2010.



Firearms were involved in 11,078 homicides of the 16,259 homicides in

the United States in 2010, the latest year for which data is

available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and

Prevention.


Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they "observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow guns."

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...ence-with-ban/


That's an absurd posit on the part of Kates and Mauser. There are
decades of evidence showing that the United States, with virtually no
gun controls, has among the highest rates of murder by gun in the
western world.
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On Friday, September 13, 2013 6:15:41 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/13/13 7:10 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:38:46 AM UTC-5, jps wrote:


Researchers in the United States claim to have established a




convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide,




according to a new study.








The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,




challenges the National Rifle Association s claim that increased gun




ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.








Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that




for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a




given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.








In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the




study used a proxy variable the percentage of a state s suicides




committed with a firearm that has been validated in previous




research.








The study, led by Boston University community health sciences




professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December




2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in




Newtown, Connecticut.








In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown many states are




considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths, said




Siegel in a statement.








This research is the strongest to date to document that states with




higher levels of gun ownership have disproportionately large numbers




of deaths from firearm-related homicides, he said.








It suggests that measures which succeed in decreasing the overall




prevalence of guns will lower firearm homicide rates.








The study found that, over three decades, the mean estimated




percentage of gun ownership ranged from a low of 25.8 percent in




Hawaii to a high of 76.8 percent in Mississippi, with a national




average of 57.7 percent.








The mean age-adjusted firearm homicide rate stretched from 0.9 percent




per 100,000 in New Hampshire to 1.8 percent in Louisiana, with an




average for all states of four per 100,000.








The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide




for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in




2010.








Firearms were involved in 11,078 homicides of the 16,259 homicides in




the United States in 2010, the latest year for which data is




available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and




Prevention.




Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they "observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow guns."




http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...ence-with-ban/






That's an absurd posit on the part of Kates and Mauser. There are

decades of evidence showing that the United States, with virtually no

gun controls, has among the highest rates of murder by gun in the

western world.



For every statement, poll, or study, there's always an opposing view, Harry.. You should know that...
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On Friday, September 13, 2013 6:15:41 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:



That's an absurd posit on the part of Kates and Mauser. There are

decades of evidence showing that the United States, with virtually no

gun controls, has among the highest rates of murder by gun in the

western world.


Cook County/ Chicago IL. has some of the toughest gun laws in the nation, yet one of, if not the highest gun/murder rates in the nation as well. so....


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On Friday, September 13, 2013 6:15:41 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/13/13 7:10 AM, Tim wrote:



Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun
control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they
"observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls
tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow
guns."




http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...ence-with-ban/



That's an absurd posit on the part of Kates and Mauser. There are

decades of evidence showing that the United States, with virtually
no

gun controls, has among the highest rates of murder by gun in the

western world.



For every statement, poll, or study, there's always an opposing view,
Harry. You should know that...

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Hard statistics have value but some of these gun issue polls are
really questionable. The University of Chicago does a poll every two
years trying to get an idea of overall gun ownership numbers. They
call something like 2000 people and ask, "Do you own a firearm".

Who, in their right mind, is going to answer someone asking a question
like that based on a telephone call from an unknown "pollster", and
if they do, how reliable are their answers?

Without a national gun registry the only way to estimate the growth or
decline of gun ownership is to look at the manufacturer's production
numbers.
Some, like S&W have been at full capacity for the past 5 years,
indicating a strong demand for their products. Additionally, new
applications for permits have been at record levels. Despite this,
gun related homicides nationally are declining.




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On 9/13/2013 7:44 AM, Tim wrote:
On Friday, September 13, 2013 6:15:41 AM UTC-5, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 9/13/13 7:10 AM, Tim wrote:

On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:38:46 AM UTC-5, jps wrote:


Researchers in the United States claim to have established a




convincing statistical link between gun ownership and homicide,




according to a new study.








The study, which appears in the American Journal of Public Health,




challenges the National Rifle Association s claim that increased gun




ownership does not lead to higher levels of gun violence.








Covering 30 years from 1981 and all 50 US states, it determined that




for every one percentage point in the prevalence of gun ownership in a




given state, the firearm homicide rate increased by 0.9 percent.








In the absence of state-level data on household gun ownership, the




study used a proxy variable the percentage of a state s suicides




committed with a firearm that has been validated in previous




research.








The study, led by Boston University community health sciences




professor Michael Siegel, is the first of its kind since the December




2012 mass shooting of 20 children at Sandy Hook Elementary School in




Newtown, Connecticut.








In the wake of the tragic shooting in Newtown many states are




considering legislation to control firearm-related deaths, said




Siegel in a statement.








This research is the strongest to date to document that states with




higher levels of gun ownership have disproportionately large numbers




of deaths from firearm-related homicides, he said.








It suggests that measures which succeed in decreasing the overall




prevalence of guns will lower firearm homicide rates.








The study found that, over three decades, the mean estimated




percentage of gun ownership ranged from a low of 25.8 percent in




Hawaii to a high of 76.8 percent in Mississippi, with a national




average of 57.7 percent.








The mean age-adjusted firearm homicide rate stretched from 0.9 percent




per 100,000 in New Hampshire to 1.8 percent in Louisiana, with an




average for all states of four per 100,000.








The study also acknowledged a long-term decline in firearm homicide




for all states, from 5.2 per 100,000 in 1981 to 3.5 per 100,000 in




2010.








Firearms were involved in 11,078 homicides of the 16,259 homicides in




the United States in 2010, the latest year for which data is




available, according to the Centers for Disease Control and




Prevention.




Kates and Mauser clarify that they are not suggesting that gun control causes nations to have higher murder rates, rather, they "observed correlations that nations with stringent gun controls tend to have much higher murder rates than nations that allow guns."




http://www.bostonmagazine.com/news/b...ence-with-ban/






That's an absurd posit on the part of Kates and Mauser. There are

decades of evidence showing that the United States, with virtually no

gun controls, has among the highest rates of murder by gun in the

western world.



For every statement, poll, or study, there's always an opposing view, Harry.. You should know that...

Not only that, studyies usually turn out the way the sponsor wants.
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On Friday, September 13, 2013 8:20:09 AM UTC-4, Mr. Luddite wrote:


Some, like S&W have been at full capacity for the past 5 years,
indicating a strong demand for their products. Additionally, new
applications for permits have been at record levels. Despite this,
gun related homicides nationally are declining.


Which would seem to disprove the title of this thread, and the supposed statistical link claimed by the study.
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