On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my time
getting a good description of the perp.

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There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.

On 5/8/13 7:21 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my time
getting a good description of the perp.

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There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.



It's telling that you are describing yourself as no better than a 19th
Century vigilante. In the more civilized areas of the country, you
aren't supposed to take the law into your own hands and hang some
someone you caught stealing your car or lawn mower or whatever in your
driveway. You're supposed to call the police and let them handle it.

On 5/8/2013 4:30 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 8 May 2013 16:13:27 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:

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If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately contact
the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.
If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure
speculation.

That's my point exactly! I'm no more a witness to it than Greg, BAR or
FOX news!

I am giving the defendant the benefit of the doubt and putting the
burden of proof on the state, as it should be. You and Harry are the
ones who have convinced yourselves that this was premeditated murder
with no evidence to back it up.

I call "bull****"... There is no way you believe that's the way they
feel "just because they said it here"... They are just trolling you and
will say whatever it takes to do that regardless of how they feel.. LOL!
So Greg, on *you* I call bull**** LOL!

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On 5/8/13 7:21 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my
time
getting a good description of the perp.

===

There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.



It's telling that you are describing yourself as no better than a 19th
Century vigilante. In the more civilized areas of the country, you
aren't supposed to take the law into your own hands and hang some
someone you caught stealing your car or lawn mower or whatever in your
driveway. You're supposed to call the police and let them handle it.

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Someone comes up your driveway, proceeds to attempt to steal your car
..... you are there witnessing this .... and all you would do is
memorize what he looks like and call the police?

Imagine if everyone shared your view of a "civilized" action?
Hoo-boy .... a field day for the thieves of the world. The limited
resources of the police couldn't keep up with the calls and lookout
duties for stolen vehicles or other personal possessions.

A vigilante typically plans, stalks and attempts to do the work of the
police *after* the crime has been committed. Or, they assume a role
of law enforcement in general without the proper authority.
Challenging someone in the process of stealing your car or other
personal possession isn't being a vigilante. It's a responsible
action to protect your property and it doesn't mean using deadly
force. That's reserved for last resort situations when your life is
in immediate danger.

On 5/8/13 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 5/8/13 7:21 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my time
getting a good description of the perp.

===

There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.



It's telling that you are describing yourself as no better than a 19th
Century vigilante. In the more civilized areas of the country, you
aren't supposed to take the law into your own hands and hang some
someone you caught stealing your car or lawn mower or whatever in your
driveway. You're supposed to call the police and let them handle it.

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Someone comes up your driveway, proceeds to attempt to steal your car
.... you are there witnessing this .... and all you would do is
memorize what he looks like and call the police?


That's right, and as soon as the cops arrive and take their report, I
call my insurance agent. I'm not taking a chance the car thief will get
violent. It's not a person, it's a car, an inanimate object that is easy
to replace.

On 5/8/2013 9:21 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/8/13 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 5/8/13 7:21 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my time
getting a good description of the perp.

===

There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.



It's telling that you are describing yourself as no better than a 19th
Century vigilante. In the more civilized areas of the country, you
aren't supposed to take the law into your own hands and hang some
someone you caught stealing your car or lawn mower or whatever in your
driveway. You're supposed to call the police and let them handle it.

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Someone comes up your driveway, proceeds to attempt to steal your car
.... you are there witnessing this .... and all you would do is
memorize what he looks like and call the police?


That's right, and as soon as the cops arrive and take their report, I
call my insurance agent. I'm not taking a chance the car thief will get
violent. It's not a person, it's a car, an inanimate object that is easy
to replace.


Man you've changed, since the days when you pinned burglars against your
garages with your pickup trucks, crushing their legs.

"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
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On 5/8/13 9:14 PM, Eisboch wrote:


"F.O.A.D." wrote in message
m...

On 5/8/13 7:21 PM, Wayne B wrote:
On Wed, 08 May 2013 14:31:58 -0400, "F.O.A.D."
wrote:

If my car was in the driveway, I'd call the police and spent my
time
getting a good description of the perp.

===

There are other options of course. In my opinion a car thief is
no
better than a horse thief, and we all know what happens to them.



It's telling that you are describing yourself as no better than a
19th
Century vigilante. In the more civilized areas of the country, you
aren't supposed to take the law into your own hands and hang some
someone you caught stealing your car or lawn mower or whatever in
your
driveway. You're supposed to call the police and let them handle it.

----------------------------------------------

Someone comes up your driveway, proceeds to attempt to steal your
car
.... you are there witnessing this .... and all you would do is
memorize what he looks like and call the police?


That's right, and as soon as the cops arrive and take their report, I
call my insurance agent. I'm not taking a chance the car thief will
get
violent. It's not a person, it's a car, an inanimate object that is
easy
to replace.

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I just can't see myself watching this taking place without challenging
the person. My reaction to the challenge depends on his. I might
run or I might stand my ground. Sorta depends on how big he is.
But I don't think I'd stand there calling 911 while I watched him in
the process of stealing it and driving away. A challenge might be
just enough to cause him to abort and screw.

Ever been robbed? Had your house broken into and items taken?
****es you off. It's not the value of the items taken. Like you
said, they can be replaced. It's the thought that some people think
they can just help themselves to things that don't belong to them.
Sometimes the items are not replaceable and unfortunately most of the
time they are never recovered.

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I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he
ran to his truck and got his pistol.

Doesn't matter what you "believe." That's religion.
Here, we have "rule of law."
Not lynch mob justice or kangaroo courts.
So put your backward religion away, and wait for the wheels of justice
to grind out their results. You have no other option.

On Wednesday, May 8, 2013 4:15:59 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote:
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On Wed, 8 May 2013 15:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:



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On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote:



I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he

ran to his truck and got his pistol.



It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to

it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is

out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself)



The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend

said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him.

Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar.



If you keep going with the girl friends's story, Zimmerman asked "What

are you doing here" and the fight started.

Presumably Martin's answer to that question was a punch in the face.



The autopsy showed Martin had banged up fists and no other injuries

but a bullet hole in his chest. We have seen the pictures of

Zimmerman's face and the back of his head. I suppose you and Sharpton

can explain that another way but it sure sounds like a beating to me.



So, I guess that if a stranger comes running up to you in the middle of

the night, you'd just let him do whatever he wants to you? Hell yes, he

was fighting for his life, a thug had accosted him with a gun.

That's a guess, for sure. Nothing but wild allegations from you for what may have happened.

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On Wed, 8 May 2013 09:12:30 -0400, iBoaterer
wrote:

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On Tue, 7 May 2013 14:49:31 -0400, iBoaterer
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How did
Zimmerman know about his past, unless Zimmerman knew who he was?

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He didn't need to know. Anyone walking aimlessly through a
neighborhood and looking into cars is immediately suspect. That
is
usually criminal behavior and it's easy to spot.

So, everyone should shoot and kill anybody walking (NOT aimlessly)
through a neighborhood turning his head toward cars (allegedly).
Got it.

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That's nonsense of course but you seem to have your mind made up
already, so what's the point of discussing it? Most importantly,
the
courts will ultimately decide regardless of our opinions.

That's what happened!

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If you are an eye witness to this I'd suggest you immediately contact
the attorneys involved and offer your testimony.
If you are not an eye witness, then your assumptions are pure
speculation.

That's my point exactly! I'm no more a witness to it than Greg, BAR or
FOX news!

I never said I was an eye witness. I have only repeated what has been reported by the police
and media outlets.