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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
On 5/9/2013 3:28 PM, F.O.A.D. wrote:
On 5/9/13 3:19 PM, Eisboch wrote: "F.O.A.D." wrote in message ... On 5/9/13 12:04 PM, wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 11:54:03 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 5/9/13 11:48 AM, wrote: On Thu, 09 May 2013 07:44:55 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I whacked him with my truck, but not because he stole our stuff, but because he was threatening me physically. If you were inside your truck you were not threatened. Your truck might have been subject to damage. There was nothing to prevent you from driving away.That sounds like you committed aggravated assault to me. Good thing he didn't file a complaint. Oh, I wasn't being threatened? Bull****. He wasn't carrying a bag of Skittles and a soft drink when he came at me. He also was not likely to be able to outrun your truck. You were not exposed and you had the ability to retreat. That is the test in Md. You can't "stand your ground" My truck windows were open, and you have no idea whether I had the ability to retreat safely. In any event, he was arrested, tried, convicted and sentenced to 20 years. His girlfriend copped a plea and got a much lesser sentence, but I don't recall what it was. His other partner was also sent to the slammer. As for Maryland, I've been told by law enforcement officials and an assistant prosecutor that if someone forces their way into the house at night and I shoot the perp, they are unlikely to prosecute. ------------------------------------------------------- I think Greg missed the point that your truck/burglar adventure occurred in Florida, not Maryland. I am curious if Florida had the "stand your ground" statute at the time this occurred. I don't know one way or the other. I do know that even back then (mid 1990's) handguns were easy to get and it took no effort to get a carry permit, because their availability was advertised on TV. There was a local gunshop that advertised on TV. Southside Guns. The owner in those days was a flaming ass whose TV commercials glorified gun violence. The perp and his partner rented cheap apartments in town to store the merchandise they sold from houses and, I suppose, to have a place to "showcase" the wares to potential buyers. They used the cash proceeds to support their drug business. You give other vigilantes a bad name. |
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#164
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
In article , says...
In article , says... On Wed, 8 May 2013 13:22:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not be able to defend himself? You have NO idea whether that is what happened or not. You are going to say what FOX tells you to say, that Zimmerman was a darling, great citizen and that Martin no business being there, despite the truth. Have you read the police report? It is a public record Yes, I have. And in it the police make no mention of a "deadly beating". There is a LOT of hearsay in it from Zimmerman, though. And I guess, if you take a KNOWN liar's word just because FOX tells you to, that's your downfall. The deadly beating was stopped by the deadly shooting of the person giving the beating. |
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
In article , says...
In article , says... On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 5/8/13 12:38 PM, wrote: So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not be able to defend himself? Instead you live in a "retreat" state where you could be charged for shooting an intruder in your own home if there was any possibility that you might have been able to escape. Before you opine, know that a friend of mine did 7 years in the Maryland prison system for killing an intruder ... because he had an opportunity to run out the door. I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he ran to his truck and got his pistol. It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself) The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him. Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar. Zimmerman was there during the entire event, his recounting of the events is not hearsay. |
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#166
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#167
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
In article , says...
In article , says... On Wed, 8 May 2013 15:02:23 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he ran to his truck and got his pistol. It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself) The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him. Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar. If you keep going with the girl friends's story, Zimmerman asked "What are you doing here" and the fight started. Presumably Martin's answer to that question was a punch in the face. The autopsy showed Martin had banged up fists and no other injuries but a bullet hole in his chest. We have seen the pictures of Zimmerman's face and the back of his head. I suppose you and Sharpton can explain that another way but it sure sounds like a beating to me. So, I guess that if a stranger comes running up to you in the middle of the night, you'd just let him do whatever he wants to you? Hell yes, he was fighting for his life, a thug had accosted him with a gun. Where does it say that Zimmerman was running up to Martin? |
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#168
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
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says... In article , says... In article , says... On Thu, 9 May 2013 13:13:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: you either broke the law or you didn't! === If you think the law is all black and white like that, you've never seen a good defense attorney in action. I didn't say that. You put it in terms of either or. It is what it is, you either broke the law or you didn't. What else is there? You kinda sorta broke the law? |
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#169
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 8 May 2013 13:22:54 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not be able to defend himself? You have NO idea whether that is what happened or not. You are going to say what FOX tells you to say, that Zimmerman was a darling, great citizen and that Martin no business being there, despite the truth. Have you read the police report? It is a public record Yes, I have. And in it the police make no mention of a "deadly beating". There is a LOT of hearsay in it from Zimmerman, though. And I guess, if you take a KNOWN liar's word just because FOX tells you to, that's your downfall. The deadly beating was stopped by the deadly shooting of the person giving the beating. Please show proof of your wild allegations. |
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#170
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For those here following the Zimmerman-Martin murder...
In article ,
says... In article , says... In article , says... On Wed, 08 May 2013 12:45:56 -0400, "F.O.A.D." wrote: On 5/8/13 12:38 PM, wrote: So you think someone should take a potentially deadly beating and not be able to defend himself? Instead you live in a "retreat" state where you could be charged for shooting an intruder in your own home if there was any possibility that you might have been able to escape. Before you opine, know that a friend of mine did 7 years in the Maryland prison system for killing an intruder ... because he had an opportunity to run out the door. I believe Zimmerman initiated the fight and when it got out of hand, he ran to his truck and got his pistol. It is clear that you have not actually been paying much attention to it then. That is inconsistent with every version of the story that is out there. (The girl friend, the police and Zimmerman himself) The police didn't see it, how could THEY make judgment? The girlfriend said that the kid simply asked why Zimmerman was following him. Zimmerman gave a lot of hearsay, but then he's a known liar. Zimmerman was there during the entire event, his recounting of the events is not hearsay. And is a KNOWN liar, and a KNOWN violent person. |
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