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Floriduh
In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion-
forums@ynim7, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less a carry permit. His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his friend and that charge was dropped. I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes. There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control hothead. There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people. Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex. I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your hero. |
Floriduh
In article ,
says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., . That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do! Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!" Here, idiot: "It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be here today," Julison said How do you know? At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more. There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also. Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take it? You righties amaze me. |
Floriduh
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Floriduh
In article ,
says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 12:25 PM, JustWait wrote: On 3/27/2012 11:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., That is Plum's MO... Zimmerman was clearly told by the police dispatcher to stay in his car. The transcripts were readily available, and that is one of the statements that was perfectly clear. No he wasn't. Go read the transcripts for yourself. You're as bad as that guy that sounds like Kevin = making up ****. If a LEO tells you you shouldn't get out of your car and confront the kid, what would you do? |
Floriduh
In article , dump-on-
says... On 3/27/12 2:53 PM, wrote: On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." The kid was under no obligation to say anything. Zimmerman was and is a nobody, beyond being a killer. Exactly. |
Floriduh
In article ,
says... In article 23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, BAR wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. Yep, the no retreat clause is the same for Martin as it is for Zimmerman. |
Floriduh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:15:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 12:25 PM, JustWait wrote: On 3/27/2012 11:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., That is Plum's MO... Zimmerman was clearly told by the police dispatcher to stay in his car. The transcripts were readily available, and that is one of the statements that was perfectly clear. No he wasn't. Go read the transcripts for yourself. You're as bad as that guy that sounds like Kevin = making up ****. If a LEO tells you you shouldn't get out of your car and confront the kid, what would you do? No LEO said anything about getting out of a car. You're making up bull**** scenarios to fit your false statements. Call me more names. That shows a level of immaturity equal to Harry's. |
Floriduh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:11:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynim7, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less a carry permit. His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his friend and that charge was dropped. I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes. There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control hothead. There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people. Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex. I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your hero. More Kevinesque bull****. Cite? Show one statement implying Zimmerman is a hero. |
Floriduh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:13:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., . That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do! Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!" Here, idiot: "It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be here today," Julison said How do you know? At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more. There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also. Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take it? You righties amaze me. I called you a name? Show me. I have no idea if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I have no idea if the kid was guilty or innocent. All I have is the word of a bunch of folks like yourself. And, you make up **** as you go along, like saying I called you a name. You sure sound a lot like that Kevin guy that used to be here. He pulled a lot of the same ****. |
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