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Floriduh
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On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. |
Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:50:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:11:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynim7, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less a carry permit. His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his friend and that charge was dropped. I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes. There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control hothead. There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people. Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex. I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your hero. More Kevinesque bull****. Cite? Show one statement implying Zimmerman is a hero. **** you. More lies. There used to be a guy here named Kevin. He'd do the same thing - get caught in a lie and call names. Kinda like our boy, Harry. |
Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:27:44 -0400, Oscar wrote:
On 3/28/2012 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant Zimmerman was the instigator of the entire event. The state has to prove it is not true. The state doesn't have to prove anything until he is indicted. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman You don't know what Martin's intentions were, maybe they were to ascertain why Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. Fat guy's with BMIs of over 36 pursue if they have a hero complex, which Zimmerman appears to have had based upon his near constant contact with the PD. BAR, I applaud you as a right winger who can see through the bull**** the right is trying to sling because FOX is telling them to! Amateur sleuths, all of you. I suggest you wait till sufficient facts are discovered to make an arrest. Bull****. I ain't no amateur sleuth. I am in the same ballpark as you, although I'd agree with some of the things Bert said, like the asshole should have stayed in his car. Not saying he's innocent or guilty, mind you, only offering an opinion of where he should have stayed. |
Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:55:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:13:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., . That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do! Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!" Here, idiot: "It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be here today," Julison said How do you know? At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more. There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also. Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take it? You righties amaze me. I called you a name? Show me. I have no idea if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I have no idea if the kid was guilty or innocent. All I have is the word of a bunch of folks like yourself. You call me "Kevin" constantly, Asshole. And, you make up **** as you go along, like saying I called you a name. You call me "Kevin" constantly, Asshole. You sure sound a lot like that Kevin guy that used to be here. He pulled a lot of the same ****. **** you, Asshole. I haven't called you 'Kevin' for ages - not since I said I'd call you 'Fred' if it would make you happy. That 'iBoaterrer' **** is just too hard to type. Now, I may have compared you to a guy named Kevin that used to be here a lot. He lived down in Atlanta, GA. You and he have a whole hell of a lot in common. |
Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:57:01 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:15:02 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 14:06:35 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 12:25 PM, JustWait wrote: On 3/27/2012 11:34 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., That is Plum's MO... Zimmerman was clearly told by the police dispatcher to stay in his car. The transcripts were readily available, and that is one of the statements that was perfectly clear. No he wasn't. Go read the transcripts for yourself. You're as bad as that guy that sounds like Kevin = making up ****. If a LEO tells you you shouldn't get out of your car and confront the kid, what would you do? No LEO said anything about getting out of a car. You're making up bull**** scenarios to fit your false statements. They sure did! Cite? Call me more names. That shows a level of immaturity equal to Harry's. Uh, YOU call me "Kevin" all of the time, Asshole. So, is YOUR immaturity equal to Harry's, Asshole? See earlier response. I've not called you 'Kevin' in a 'coon's age - albeit a young 'coon. In fact, |
Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. |
Floriduh
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says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:50:05 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:11:08 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article 2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynim7, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less a carry permit. His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his friend and that charge was dropped. I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes. There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control hothead. There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people. Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex. I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your hero. More Kevinesque bull****. Cite? Show one statement implying Zimmerman is a hero. **** you. More lies. There used to be a guy here named Kevin. He'd do the same thing - get caught in a lie and call names. Kinda like our boy, Harry. What names did I call you, Asshole? |
Floriduh
In article ,
says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:55:30 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:13:51 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 13:45:13 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:34:11 -0400, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 09:27:17 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: Citizens rights include not following the orders of Law Enforcement? He was told to stay in his car. When? You are just making **** up now., . That is the same thing that Kevin guy used to do! Maybe there's no difference between, "We don?t need you to do that," and, "Stay in your car!" Here, idiot: "It's irrelevant to what happened on Feb. 26, does not change material facts of the situation, specifically that had George Zimmerman not left his vehicle and heeded the police dispatcher's guidance, we wouldn't be here today," Julison said How do you know? At least you're not putting words in the cop's mouth any more. There used to be a guy here named Kevin who did the same stupid ****. He was a name-caller also. Hey, Asshole, YOU are calling ME a name. Now, do you think Zimmerman did the right thing in shooting an innocent kid? That's sick. You do realize the kid can also use the no retreat clause too, eh? Some weirdo fat ass vigilante comes up to him harassing him and he's supposed to just take it? You righties amaze me. I called you a name? Show me. I have no idea if Zimmerman is guilty or innocent. I have no idea if the kid was guilty or innocent. All I have is the word of a bunch of folks like yourself. You call me "Kevin" constantly, Asshole. And, you make up **** as you go along, like saying I called you a name. You call me "Kevin" constantly, Asshole. You sure sound a lot like that Kevin guy that used to be here. He pulled a lot of the same ****. **** you, Asshole. I haven't called you 'Kevin' for ages - not since I said I'd call you 'Fred' if it would make you happy. That 'iBoaterrer' **** is just too hard to type. Now, I may have compared you to a guy named Kevin that used to be here a lot. He lived down in Atlanta, GA. You and he have a whole hell of a lot in common. Well, that Happy John **** is too hard to type as well, therefore, I named you Asshole. Now just what do I have in common with this Kevin, Asshole? |
Floriduh
In article ,
says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. |
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