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Floriduh
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. 'Affect' or 'effect'? Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot. |
Floriduh
On 3/28/2012 3:56 PM, X ` Man wrote:
On 3/28/12 3:35 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:50:05 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 16:11:08 -0400, wrote: In article2380703.423.1332876250212.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynim7, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 3:06:05 PM UTC-4, jps wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 11:24:41 -0400, X ` Man wrote: On 3/27/12 11:21 AM, wrote: On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:38:09 -0400, X ` Man wrote: Zimmerman has an interesting police record. He's exactly the sort of person who should not have been allowed to purchase a firearm, much less a carry permit. His "record" is arguing with a cop in a bar who was arresting his friend and that charge was dropped. I guess Skip Gates is a criminal too in your eyes. There's a bit more than that, but arguing with a cop in a bar over an arrest is "interesting." It tells me Zimmerman is an out of control hothead. There was also a domestic dispute wherein his ex filed for a restraint order. Evidently, Zimmerman liked to intimidate people. Or, he was a nicew guy that was trying to help a buddy out of a jam in a bar, and he had a bitch for an ex. I can not believe the people on the right spinning this into a guy who is completely out of line shoots and kills an innocent kid and he's your hero. More Kevinesque bull****. Cite? Show one statement implying Zimmerman is a hero. **** you. More lies. There used to be a guy here named Kevin. He'd do the same thing - get caught in a lie and call names. Kinda like our boy, Harry. You seem intent on setting the record here for posts totally devoid of content. Easter is coming...going to post photos of your grandkids dressed up as bunnies? We're still waiting for a photo of "Yo-Ho 3" -- http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db |
Floriduh
On 3/28/2012 4:33 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. 'Affect' or 'effect'? Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot. It's more in the argument style... Several of these sock puppets (who show up as soon as another leaves;), argue in a very distinctive manner. It's as clear as if you could hear their voices, they are the same person... Just like my style of speech, I couldn't hide it if I wanted to. I just hoped the guy had more guts and confidence in his own convictions to keep playing this silly denial game... |
Floriduh
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 18:03:20 -0400, wrote:
On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 12:03:00 -0700, jps wrote: On Mon, 26 Mar 2012 16:52:56 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 12:12:08 -0700, jps wrote: The state that elected a crook for governor sets a new standard for stupidity *and* hypocrisy. Matthew Dowd, President George W. Bush’s former chief strategist, on Sunday observed that the same conservative legislatures and governors who are championing so-called Christian values like prayer in schools are also pushing for dangerous gun laws that are counter to Christian teachings. During a panel on ABC, “Nightline” anchor Terry Moran noted that Florida’s “Stand Your Ground” law gave officials cover to not arrest neighborhood watch vigilante George Zimmerman for killing Trayvon Martin, an unarmed 17-year-old African American boy. “No other state has a law like this,” Moran explained. “Not only is it a ‘Stand Your Ground’ law — in the olden days under common law you had a duty to retreat. ‘Stand Your Ground’ says, no, you don’t have to. Florida goes one step farther. ‘Stand Your Ground’ is self defense — defense at trial. It would go to trial where the jury would figure out what happened.” “In Florida, the law says if you raise a claim of self defense after killing someone in public, you can’t even be arrested,” he added. “It’s why prosecutors and police hated this law. It sabotaged our justice system. All this discussion we’ve heard — What did Zimmerman do? What did Trayvon do? — Juries are supposed to figure that out. The Florida law destroys that American system.” “There is such irony about this,” Dowd agreed. “Most of the states that have passed this including Florida and the ‘Stand Your Ground’ laws and the expanded gun-ownership laws where you can carry a concealed weapon are also the same states and the same legislatures and the same governors who sort of pushed for prayer in the school.” Dowd continued: “To me, there is such and irony here, that we want to be a Christian nation and we want to act in a Christian manner, but oh, by the way, we don’t believe in the turn your other cheek and we don’t believe in love your enemy. We believe in loading citizens and basically giving them an opportunity to shoot people.” First of all, it is no surprise that you are all over this and that you are twisting the facts and mis-stating reality to fit your anti-gun mania. Second, I'd like for you to cite where "the law says if you raise a claim of self defense after killing someone in public, you can’t even be arrested" Third, I'd like for you to explain how " Juries are supposed to figure that out," before or during the fact. Maybe you think the way this should be handled is to let the criminal kill somebody and their family and then let the lawyers fight it out in court. Personally, I'll use my gun and then take my chances at being judged by 12 rather than carried by 6. You can chose the opposite, if you wish. Finally, If you believe that Trevon was murdered, feel free to show how the "Hold Your Ground" law even applies, in the remotest way, in that case. I haven't twisted anything. The above recounting was a transcript of an interchange on a news program that featured GW Bush's former cheif strategist, who rightfully called out these bogus christians for promoting laws that protect people using guns to kill others. That was the only point. Feel free to lose your mind and connect whatever point you think I'm making to your fantasy scenarios but I won't be wasting my time arguing with your lame attempt at debate. You carefully avoided answering any of my questions regarding direct statements YOU made, not some pal of the inbred Bush family. I'll restate for your convenience: I'd like for you to cite where "the law says if you raise a claim of self defense after killing someone in public, you can’t even be arrested" If you believe that Trevon was murdered, feel free to show how the "Hold Your Ground" law even applies, in the remotest way, in that case. You should go speak with the police in Florida who wouldn't bring charges against someone who ended up killing a young man after pursuing him without reason or merit. They're the ones who assumed Zimmerman didn't need to be more thoroughly investigated. Their interpretation, not mine. And the quote you cite wasn't mine. You need to take a reading comprehension course. |
Floriduh
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5.com says... On 3/28/2012 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant Zimmerman was the instigator of the entire event. The state has to prove it is not true. The state doesn't have to prove anything until he is indicted. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman You don't know what Martin's intentions were, maybe they were to ascertain why Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. Fat guy's with BMIs of over 36 pursue if they have a hero complex, which Zimmerman appears to have had based upon his near constant contact with the PD. BAR, I applaud you as a right winger who can see through the bull**** the right is trying to sling because FOX is telling them to! Amateur sleuths, all of you. I suggest you wait till sufficient facts are discovered to make an arrest. The Sanford police believe they had sufficient facts and evidence to arrest Zimmerman but, the DA did not support them. The DA is turning out to be the dumbest person in the room. |
Floriduh
On 3/28/2012 3:38 PM, Happy John wrote:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 12:27:44 -0400, wrote: On 3/28/2012 8:54 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... In , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant Zimmerman was the instigator of the entire event. The state has to prove it is not true. The state doesn't have to prove anything until he is indicted. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman You don't know what Martin's intentions were, maybe they were to ascertain why Zimmerman was pursuing Martin. Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. Fat guy's with BMIs of over 36 pursue if they have a hero complex, which Zimmerman appears to have had based upon his near constant contact with the PD. BAR, I applaud you as a right winger who can see through the bull**** the right is trying to sling because FOX is telling them to! Amateur sleuths, all of you. I suggest you wait till sufficient facts are discovered to make an arrest. Bull****. I ain't no amateur sleuth. I am in the same ballpark as you, although I'd agree with some of the things Bert said, like the asshole should have stayed in his car. Not saying he's innocent or guilty, mind you, only offering an opinion of where he should have stayed. I can't speak to what he should have done. But there are plenty of Monday morning quarterbacks who think they can. -- http://tinyurl.com/75bq9db |
Floriduh
In article ,
says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. 'Affect' or 'effect'? Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot. ESAD |
Floriduh
In article , says...
On 3/28/2012 4:33 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. 'Affect' or 'effect'? Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot. It's more in the argument style... Several of these sock puppets (who show up as soon as another leaves;), argue in a very distinctive manner. It's as clear as if you could hear their voices, they are the same person... Just like my style of speech, I couldn't hide it if I wanted to. I just hoped the guy had more guts and confidence in his own convictions to keep playing this silly denial game... You all who think I'm Kevin should all get together, pool your money and make a bet, I'll match. |
Floriduh
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 08:26:11 -0400, iBoaterer wrote:
In article , says... On 3/28/2012 4:33 PM, Happy John wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 15:48:00 -0400, wrote: In , says... On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 14:53:16 -0400, wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 12:33 PM, Oscar wrote: On 3/28/2012 9:44 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/28/2012 9:00 AM, iBoaterer wrote: In , says... On 3/27/2012 3:47 PM, BAR wrote: In article23409357.826.1332874413803.JavaMail.geo-discussion- forums@ynlw24, says... On Tuesday, March 27, 2012 12:18:12 PM UTC-4, iBoaterer wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 27 Mar 2012 07:36:08 -0400, wrote: There is no evidence that Zimmerman ever approached Martin. It appears the opposite is true. He says he was jumped from behind. No evidence yet. Zimmerman is the defendant The state has to prove it is not true. We know from the girlfriends phone transcript, Martin approached Zimmerman Fat guys with BMIs of over 36 do not "pursue", certainly not fast enough to catch a 17 year old football star who wants to get away. What was the kid supposed to do, allow the guy to come and attack him? How was Martin supposed to know that the guy wasn't some thug wanting to rob him, or kill him? When Zimmerman asked him what he was doing there the first time, all Martin had to say was "I'm going to my father's house, he lives at 168 Maple Dr., call him if you don't believe me." Game over, and you guys wouldn't be having this argument. Since ya'll are so wound up about this, here's another take on it that I just happened to have run across. Interesting. http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-765534 I like how the article paints Zimmerman as a gang member which also paints Martin as a racist. Nice touch. The interesting part of the transcript is: Zimmerman: Okay. These a**holes they always get away...S**t he's running. Dispatcher: Are you following him? Zimmerman: Yeah Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that. Zimmerman: Ok Once Zimmerman got out of his car and pursued Martin all bets were off. Zimmerman wound up getting his ass kicked and fired a gun because he was losing the fight. So, what you are saying is that if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and asked the Martin "what are you doing here", and Martin had beat Zimmerman to death, that would have been ok because Zimmerman got out and asked him a question? That's just stupid. You both indicated Martin had the right to defend himself from the follower, I am just asking what you would have done if Zimmerman didn't have a gun and Martin beat him to death.... Neither one of you will answer that question... Because it's hypothetical and didn't happen, therefore has NOTHING to do with this case. BUT, with the no retreat clause, if Martin felt in fear of his life, he could do what he had to do. You have a 200# man with a gun, and a 17 year old kid with a bag of Skittles. The kid gets shot and killed by the man and somehow you are all right with that??? Seems as though BAR is about the only person on the right in here that isn't so extreme that he sees the problem for what it is. How much did Martin weigh? It doesn't matter here Oscar. Only hypotheticals that fit the racists agenda are valid here... YOU are the racist. YOU were the one to bring up race. Now, what is "hypothetical" about Martin's weight? He was there, and he had that weight. Unlike YOUR hypothetical which just didn't have any bearing on anything to do with this case so it WAS hypothetical. So, show me ONE STATEMENT I've made about this matter that was a hypothesis. Wow. That guy 'Kevin' that used to be here would capitalize a lot of words also. A person tends to capitalize words for affect, ASSHOLE. 'Affect' or 'effect'? Kevin used to do that also - screw up words a lot. It's more in the argument style... Several of these sock puppets (who show up as soon as another leaves;), argue in a very distinctive manner. It's as clear as if you could hear their voices, they are the same person... Just like my style of speech, I couldn't hide it if I wanted to. I just hoped the guy had more guts and confidence in his own convictions to keep playing this silly denial game... You all who think I'm Kevin should all get together, pool your money and make a bet, I'll match. Who thinks you're Kevin? I think you're Harry *pretending* to be Kevin. |
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