On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 1-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

and 3) You relentlessly send your money overseas while
bitching about

meaningless

Yeah, good point, you're right. The decimation of your steel,

dont study much do you? i grew up in pittsburgh. ever hear of it? know
what its big product was, for generations?

oh. steel. the demise of steel had more to do with the use of plastics
in cars (common even in chinese cars) than with anything else

electronics,
capital machinery, auto, machine tools, ship building, stamping, tools and
dies, consumer products, etc. etc. etc. has nothing to do with your future

gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong
manufacturing

and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you.

your whole argument is that the US is so weak that

everyone wants to bank here.

uh huh

On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 1-Dec-2011, wrote:

and 3) You relentlessly send your money overseas while
bitching about

meaningless

Yeah, good point, you're right. The decimation of your steel,

dont study much do you? i grew up in pittsburgh. ever hear of it? know
what its big product was, for generations?

oh. steel. the demise of steel had more to do with the use of plastics
in cars (common even in chinese cars) than with anything else

electronics,
capital machinery, auto, machine tools, ship building, stamping, tools and
dies, consumer products, etc. etc. etc. has nothing to do with your future

gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong
manufacturing

and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you.

your whole argument is that the US is so weak that

everyone wants to bank here.

uh huh

That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our
grand kids futures?

Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption
outweighs economic production.

People like me are moving money out of USA. As fast as we can. Just
reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and
going to take more out in January to defer the taxes....

Fact is savvy investors are unweighted in USA.....and why new jobs are
not coming like they used to. Why deal with DC belligerence and denial
of debt? Why risk for such a pathetic return?

The only plays I do on USDs any more are short term opportunities that
carry far less risk. Like 10,000 shares of foreign Seagate at $10.25
and sell them 6 weeks later for $16. Sure beats dog breath USA domest
only crap. Kraft for example, the return isn't worth holding them.

But USA is a zero-bama rate economy. Good part is I am up 17% for the
year. Big tax bills coming in March/April.

Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa
Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in
Brazil...a growing economy.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:



gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong
manufacturing

and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you.

your whole argument is that the US is so weak that

everyone wants to bank here.

uh huh

That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our
grand kids futures?

canuck seems unaware that

our banks are broke

but they're LESS broke than others

and that's all that matters. but canuck is dull...dim witted...cliche
bound....unable to think for himself beyond the racist cliches of the
american president


Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption
outweighs economic production.

how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK?


People like me are moving money out of USA

let's see US T bills have about a 1% interest because people are
flocking to buy them

oh. canuck doesnt know this because his racist views dont allow him to
consider this



.. As fast as we can. Just
reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and
going to take more out in January to defer the taxes....

no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world
functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories


Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa
Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in
Brazil...a growing economy.

says the guy who lives in a country with 30% union membership and
socialized medicine

who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a
country

On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700,
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:



gee. america has few labor unions than other countries with strong
manufacturing

and i notice you ignored the comment about the euro, didnt you.

your whole argument is that the US is so weak that

everyone wants to bank here.

uh huh

That was so funny. Then why are your banks broke and sucking on our
grand kids futures?

canuck seems unaware that

our banks are broke

but they're LESS broke than others

and that's all that matters. but canuck is dull...dim witted...cliche
bound....unable to think for himself beyond the racist cliches of the
american president


Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption
outweighs economic production.

how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK?

Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of
17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many
fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure.

People like me are moving money out of USA

let's see US T bills have about a 1% interest because people are
flocking to buy them

Funny, I know of no one that owns them and my friends are self made
millionaires. In my billionaire readings, don't know of any of them
that recommend US Treasuries.

US Treasuries are junk paper, especially the longer the term as you
can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies.

Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not
yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at
least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets.

. As fast as we can. Just
reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and
going to take more out in January to defer the taxes....

no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world
functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories

Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others
like yourself wallow in self pity and whining.

Yep, while America bulldozes homes, they build them in Mexico, Costa
Rica, Panama and Brazil. Thinking about getting more stock in
Brazil...a growing economy.

says the guy who lives in a country with 30% union membership and
socialized medicine

who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a
country

Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the
system go to the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html

You need to learn to judge people how they walk and not how they talk.

Politicians lie until their own lives are on the table. And Williams
knew his chances were better in the USA. Says a lot when the top boss
of Newfoundlands health care will not use his own services.

--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700,
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption
outweighs economic production.

how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK?

Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of
17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many
fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure.

cantcha just see ol' canuck, in his waders and flannel shirt, sittin'
around the pickle barrel, chaw in place, dazzlin' the locals with his
readers digest stories!! i bet he's the biggest guy at the local
general store


US Treasuries are junk paper,

golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and
only 1% for T bills?

oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of
confidence

uh huh


especially the longer the term as you
can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies.

Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not
yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at
least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets.

read that in 'sunset' magazine did you?


. As fast as we can. Just
reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and
going to take more out in January to defer the taxes....

no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world
functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories

Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others
like yourself wallow in self pity and whining.

you confuse your self aggrandizing bull**** stories with reality.
that's what riight wingers do.


who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a
country

Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the
system go to the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html

gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US?

and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance?

tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here
with your canadian health insurance

see how far you get

On 02/12/2011 6:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:

US Treasuries are junk paper,

golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and
only 1% for T bills?

Spanish have to borrow real money. In the US Bernanke prints it for
Goldman Sachs to buy the US Treasury junk paper. Spain gave up that
right when the Euro came in.

No free lunch though. People pay in inflation/job loss like the USA or
the government pays real interest for real money. Their system has less
fraud in it actually. And why I am sell USA interests as fast as I can.
On January 2013 I will be out of the USA completely.

oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of
confidence

Know more than you, I have money.

Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not
yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at
least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets.

read that in 'sunset' magazine did you?

Nope.

Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the
system go to the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html

gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US?

My guess is that because Candians in general have less economic liberty
than Americans, they can't afford the quantities of booze, drugs and
excesses the Americans can. We have less than 20% of the boats per
capita than the USA for example.

and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance?

Haven't got a clue, I always paid my dues. I am not a fleabagger. The
two times I used it they were pretty darned quick.

tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here
with your canadian health insurance

see how far you get

Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass
in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra
private insurance so when I travel I am covered.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:24:30 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 6:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:

US Treasuries are junk paper,

golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and
only 1% for T bills?

Spanish have to borrow real money.

like euros??

HAHAHAHA

In the US Bernanke prints it for
Goldman Sachs to buy the US Treasury junk paper. Spain gave up that
right when the Euro came in.

ah. junk paper paying 1% vs spanish debt at 6 yet people are buying US
t bills

at 1%

christ you really are stupid


No free lunch though. People pay in inflation/job loss like the USA

inflation?? what's next? UFO's? the lost continent of atlantis??

you right wingers bitch about inflation...

uh..when has inflation last been a problem? care to tell us what
DECADE that was?? or h avent you gotten that far in teh reader's
digest yet?


oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of
confidence

Know more than you, I have money.

i work for a living. i'm not a socialist parasite, remember? i dont
have socialized medicine

Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the
system go to the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html

gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US?

My guess is that because Candians in general have less economic liberty
than Americans, they can't afford the quantities of booze, drugs and
excesses the Americans can. We have less than 20% of the boats per
capita than the USA for example.

HAHAHAH he's saying canadians drink less than americans?? HAHAHAHAH

let's see...30% of canadians live in

toronto

hell that's like 100M americans living in nebraska. no wonder you guys
dont own boats!!

you dont even know your own country!


and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance?

Haven't got a clue, I always paid my dues. I am not a fleabagger. The
two times I used it they were pretty darned quick.

IOW you hate the middle class

thanks. i already knew that.


tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here
with your canadian health insurance

see how far you get

Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass
in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. That is why I carry extra
private insurance so when I travel I am covered.

gee. and longevity in canada is what compared to the US??

oh. longer

so in your book somalia is a great country because the life expectancy
is 35!!

On Dec 2, 10:24*pm, Canuck57 wrote:

Canadian government insurance is more useless that tits on a boars ass
in winter for the USA or outside of Canada. *That is why I carry extra
private insurance so when I travel I am covered.
--
snip


Duh!
Maybe it's because the US rates are sky high for any & all
procedures.... and they charge for every person that so much as looks
your way.
Your provincial plan will cover what the same procedures cost to
perform at home.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 5:50 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 17:26:45 -0700,
wrote:

On 02/12/2011 2:49 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 12:58:38 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


Fact is USA wealth is dissipating fast as government consumption
outweighs economic production.

how things going in italy? greece? ireland? they doing OK?

Funny, a stock I had in an Irish company gave me a return this year of
17%. I don't do Greece or Italy, too screwed up with too many
fleabaggers. I did sell the Irish position though, too much Euro exposure.

cantcha just see ol' canuck, in his waders and flannel shirt, sittin'
around the pickle barrel, chaw in place, dazzlin' the locals with his
readers digest stories!! i bet he's the biggest guy at the local
general store


US Treasuries are junk paper,

golly. why are people demanding 7% for spanish and italian bonds and
only 1% for T bills?

oh. you dont know economics so dont know that's a reflection of
confidence

uh huh


especially the longer the term as you
can't get out without taking a bath when the **** really flies.

Watch careful, and remember this, in 2012 I predict any bond not
yielding over 7% with a remaining term greater than 4 years will take at
least a 25% depreciation hit in 2012 on the resale markets.

read that in 'sunset' magazine did you?


. As fast as we can. Just
reduced my USA holding 34% in fact. Check should be here in 10 days and
going to take more out in January to defer the taxes....

no one gives a **** about your reader's digest stories. the real world
functions on evidence and data, not supermarket tabloid stories

Funny, some people have open minds that read and rationalize, others
like yourself wallow in self pity and whining.

you confuse your self aggrandizing bull**** stories with reality.
that's what riight wingers do.


who tells us unions are evil and socialized medicine destroys a
country

Funny, people die waiting while those that can afford it that run the
system go to the USA.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2010/...al_sojour.html

gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US?

and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance?

tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here
with your canadian health insurance

see how far you get


----------------------------------------------------

T-bills are being bought by the same people that are borrowing money from
the Fed at 0.25% of less and then buying T-bills to hide the fact they can
not sell T-bills otherwise. Our problem is the fully bundled labor cost in
this country for manufacturing is an average of $65. We are priced out of
the manufacturing market. Why should someone with maybe a GED putting
lugnuts on a car going down a GM assembly line make more than you did as a
degreed engineer? Figuring the wages, and benefits, they are making more
than probably 80% of the engineers in the country.

On Fri, 2 Dec 2011 20:42:41 -0800, "Califbill"
wrote:

"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 18:43:17 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

gee...then why is longevity higher in canada than the US?

and how long do you wait in the US if you dont have health insurance?

tell you what, canuck, why not come to the US and try to get help here
with your canadian health insurance

see how far you get


----------------------------------------------------

T-bills are being bought by the same people that are borrowing money from
the Fed at 0.25% of less and then buying T-bills to hide the fact they can
not sell T-bills otherwise. Our problem is the fully bundled labor cost in
this country for manufacturing is an average of $65. We are priced out of
the manufacturing market. Why should someone with maybe a GED putting
lugnuts on a car going down a GM assembly line make more than you did as a
degreed engineer? Figuring the wages, and benefits, they are making more
than probably 80% of the engineers in the country.


he doesn't get it. he asserts no one's buying t bills

proof? uh...welll none. i guess he missed the part about bank A and
bank B

probably because he hasnt learned that part of the alphabet yet