On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of
what
it was 15 years ago.

fyi alot of plastics are in cars

you seem unaware of the fact. are you that incredibley dense??

I've manufactured equipment and molded parts for 30 years, in the U.S, until
2004 when the bottom fell out in U.S. manufacturing. That happened because
the scum you've elected welcome imports from countries that will NOT allow
your products into their country. Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't
know that?? I now ship you junk from Asia, because you fools don't get it
and don't give a flying rats ass. The profit is great, but we understand
that the U.S. market is only short term.

I've watched you assholes send your money to Japan and Korea for autos, 90%
of which have no raw materials, moldings, tooling or capital equipment from
your country. You have no ability to even babble as usual about this
subject.

On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

You never should have skipped 4th grade economics.

??

let's see...the US pays ONE percent

italy pays FIVE percent

and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!!

Italy is closer to devastation tha the U.S.; you have at least a year to go.

On 3-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote:

DUH!!!

christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how
to count to FIVE???

Rates are not low because demand is high.

Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay
interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in
the lend-borrow market place.

And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it
lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact
Social Security loses 5% value per year.

Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same
stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by
DC.

Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term.

Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%,
$10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait,
you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%.

Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of
depreciating value of money.

And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't
going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other
benefits with inflation money print.

But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

....might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:46:55 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

to dump in the US. For your reference, the plastics industry is 60% of
what
it was 15 years ago.

fyi alot of plastics are in cars

you seem unaware of the fact. are you that incredibley dense??

I've manufactured equipment and molded parts for 30 years

burgers don't count

, in the U.S, until
2004 when the bottom fell out in U.S. manufacturing. That happened because
the scum you've elected welcome imports from countries

ah. 2004. yes, the right wing was at its pinnacle at that point

thanks moron. you just made my point. res ipsa loquitur


that will NOT allow
your products into their country. Are you so ****ing stupid that you don't
know that?? I now ship you junk from Asia,

HAHAHAAH he doesn't know about NAFTA, etc!!

ROFLMAO!

he doesnt know what the right has done to this country...which is
EXACTLY my point! he's complaining that i'm correct because i'm
correct

HAHAHAHAHA


I've watched you assholes send your money to Japan

how's japan doing by the way?

oh...the term 'lost decade' was invented for the


and Korea for autos

i've been to korea. i know the economy well. more than you know about
US politics!!

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:49:20 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 3-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote:

DUH!!!

christ. what the **** happened to conservatives who dont even know how
to count to FIVE???

Rates are not low because demand is high.

Rates are low because US Fed lends out at 0%. Banks don't need to pay
interest to savers if they can get free money. There is no balance in
the lend-borrow market place.

And how if ****s you? Social security gets maybe 1% on the money it
lends to government. 6% is real unadjusted inflation. So in fact
Social Security loses 5% value per year.

Say $1000 in SS gets $10 interest. But it takes $1060 to buy the same
stuff a year later. In value terms Social security is being skimmed by
DC.

Yep, they will collect more and pay out less in the long term.

Worse of t-bill holders using real money. You lend $1000 and get 1%,
$10. But it takes $1060 to buy he same stuff a year later. But wait,
you have to pay tax on the $10. So in fact you lose more than 5%.

Whole scale Bernanke-0bama fraud really. A zero rate economy of
depreciating value of money.

And part of why your going to be so ****ed in the end. Government isn't
going to be able to increase your social security, Medicare and other
benefits with inflation money print.

But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q.

says a guy who takes 3 weeks to tie his shoes

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:48:11 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

You never should have skipped 4th grade economics.

??

let's see...the US pays ONE percent

italy pays FIVE percent

and to right wingers that proves ONE is more than FIVE!!!

Italy is closer to devastation tha the U.S.; you have at least a year to go.

gee. i've not only said that, i've shown why

DUH!!!

only takes you a few weeks to catch on...

On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.


successful companies left here because the middle class has been
destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder

I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start
and operate a company, producing something within your skill set -
say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all
over the continent.

Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream
cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and
China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China!
DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your
cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

What do you do? Pick one:

1) Wring your hands and bitch in new groups,

2) Import your dildo's from China and flood the marketplace in the same was
Walmart does,

or,

3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in
China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build
and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile
industry)

Either way you fire all the employees in your U.S. dildo plant, file
bankruptcy, and move to Asia, unless you select option 1 where you beg from
your bankrupt government.

You're lucky stupidity isn't painful.

On 2-Dec-2011, Canuck57 wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated.
That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.

And each day DC fleabaggerism goes on, the worse it gets. I figure USA
is now well past an easy recovery. Too much real wealth is gone and the
problem causes of government-banks is still underway digging a deeper
hole.

To recover, there has to something to be recovered. Your core economic base
is gone. Productive output is not an option for 4 to 5 generations. What
you need to do is adapt to a very uncomfortable living standard.

On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 13:59:25 GMT, "Haywood Jablomie"
wrote:


On 2-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

Buyout firms don't buy debt, they buy assets. Debt is liquidated. That's
the advantage of buying bankrupt companies. SUCESFUL companies left the
U.S. long ago unless the cost of freight offsets the many other
advantages
such as costs, your predatory government, and your relentlessly begging
population.


successful companies left here because the middle class has been
destroyed by right wing economics. there's nothing left to plunder

I'll help you one final time. Let's pretend you had the ability to start
and operate a company, producing something within your skill set -
say.....cream cheese dildos. Business was great and you were shipping all
over the continent.

Suddenly sales nose dive. You wonder why. You look around and see cream
cheese dildo's being shipped to your marketplace from Japan, Korea and
China. You decide to get even with them and ship to Japan, Korea and China!
DAMN THEM *******S. Then you learn that Japan and Korea don't allow your
cream cheese dildo's into their country because it will kill their dildo
industry, and, China doesn't need your expensive dildos.

now let's see...the traditional free market, milton friedman (you HAVE
read him, right?) would say this about your infantile example

1. restricting imports reduces competitiveness and drives up costs
2. when these countries tried to EXPORT their goods they'd find they
were over priced and would be driven out of the market
3. this is effectively a SUBSIDY for these products paid for by a TAX
on the importing country's population

oh. you dont know economics. you've never taken a course.



3) Form a joint venture with the red Chinese government to make dildo's in
China for export to North America - because you're not permitted to build
and ship from Japan or Korea. (This is what happened to your automobile
industry)

let's see....what's the status of IP protection in china?

oh. there is none. but you didnt realize that 'cuz you've never done
business there.

you'd be pathetic if you weren't hopeless

On 3-Dec-2011, bpuharic wrote:

benefits with inflation money print.

But you are just too ****ing stupid to see it. Good 0bama sheeples.
--
All successful people have one thing in common, if even for a moment
they think rationally.

...might as well understand you're responding to a 55 I.Q.

says a guy who takes 3 weeks to tie his shoes

Now THAT'S funny ... haven't heard anything so clever since ... ... ... ...
junior high school.