"H the K" wrote in message
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JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico *has* universal coverage.
You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.

Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.

What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?



It should be noted that the newsgroup idiot, Scott JustWait, doesn't know
the difference between an ordinary "ID" card and a national identity card.



What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

Don White wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:02 -0500, thunder
wrote:

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote:

In article ,
says...
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote:


Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in
legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it
was deliberately left out of the law...
That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports
around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might
be
involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove
citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb?
No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without
insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a
legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did...
Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor,
unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they?
Mexico *has* universal coverage.
You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here,
with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage,
an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without
reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is
broken, and needs help.
Current law is the ER has to treat and stabilize a patient. Beyond
that they can require proof of insurance or ability to pay before they
proceed. I assume that is where the proof of citizenship would kick
in.
People would have to carry the same type of ID they need to keep INS
off their back and this is certainly profiling. If you look and talk
like an American, they don't bother you from my experience. Latin
looking people with an accent get profiled.
What's the big deal? I have had to carry ID since I was a young boy? I
have had to show it every time I go in to the ER and for many other
normal daily activity. Why should certain folks be different?


It should be noted that the newsgroup idiot, Scott JustWait, doesn't know
the difference between an ordinary "ID" card and a national identity card.



What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??



Probably get burned walking by that hot motorcycle in the kitchen.





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Idiots All

On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:10:41 -0300, "Don White"

What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

About 80% of illegal immigrants use the ER as their primary care
provider. You know, for the sniffles, for a common cold, for a
coughing infant, with fever, whatever.
It burdens the ERs with unnecessary treatments not to mention the high
cost since none of the users ever pay for ER visits.
The users of the ER know they will and have to be treated. Sure they
may wait a few hours, but since most don't work, or the mother is the
one who takes in the sick child, time is not important. This happens
at every county facility where large population of Mexicans live such
as LA, SF, SD, SJ, and smaller towns that line the border with Mexico.
I suppose they do not use their free health care because that would
mean having to travel back to Mexico which would mean having to cross
back north once again later. It's much easier, cheaper and quicker to
just go to the nearest ER and ask for treatment.
That's what my employees did over the years, so I speak from
experience.
Eddie

"Eddie" wrote in message
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On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 13:10:41 -0300, "Don White"

What the 'ell? What does he mean... "every time I go in to the ER "?
Just how often does he or his kids end up in the ER??

About 80% of illegal immigrants use the ER as their primary care
provider. You know, for the sniffles, for a common cold, for a
coughing infant, with fever, whatever.
It burdens the ERs with unnecessary treatments not to mention the high
cost since none of the users ever pay for ER visits.
The users of the ER know they will and have to be treated. Sure they
may wait a few hours, but since most don't work, or the mother is the
one who takes in the sick child, time is not important. This happens
at every county facility where large population of Mexicans live such
as LA, SF, SD, SJ, and smaller towns that line the border with Mexico.
I suppose they do not use their free health care because that would
mean having to travel back to Mexico which would mean having to cross
back north once again later. It's much easier, cheaper and quicker to
just go to the nearest ER and ask for treatment.
That's what my employees did over the years, so I speak from
experience.
Eddie

Yeah but...what about the Freak. He's not Mexican......just a little
confused.