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I just saw Obama's HS speech
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 08:46:45 -0500, thunder wrote: On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? Why not carry passports? Europeans do it, and it hasn't killed any of them. Hell, it might even reduce voter fraud. Oh, wait a minute, liberals are in *favor* of voter fraud. I forgot. -- John H How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
"Jim" wrote in message
... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent. |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
"Jim" wrote in message
... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent. Not require a national id card... but of course, this is a Republican talking point not mine. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Jim" wrote in message ... nom=de=plume wrote: "Jim" wrote in message ... How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Oh, that question. I have no proposals with regard to how poor people obtain passports. You figure it out. You seem semi intelligent. Not require a national id card... but of course, this is a Republican talking point not mine. Did I say anything about a national ID card? I guess, maybe, I gave you too much credit. You seem to be a bit irritated. Are you having your "friend"? |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
Don White wrote:
"JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did... Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor, unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico *has* universal coverage. You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here, with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage, an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is broken, and needs help. "Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the best doctors? Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to wait until the next day to get an open operating room. Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short time. -- John H Depending on the operation...darn right. You 'mericans are spoiled babies. Well said! You are so dumb you have no idea, do you? |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 15:50:39 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote: "Jim" wrote in message .. . How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. Yeah, we're in favor of voter fraud like what happened in 2000 in Florida? right. Fraud? Nope. Just a few mis counted votes, hanging chad and the fact that Al gore kept demanding recounts until he was declared winner. Total fraud. Yet after Bush was elected by the Supreme Court, loyal Americans accepted the result. We didn't question that Bush was the president. After 9/11, Bush had something like 90% approval rating in the polls. The vast majority of the world were sympathetic and supportive. Instead of taking advantage of our remarkable position, Bush squandered it in a war of choice. Tens of thousands died, and we're much worse off, politically, financially, and morally. Now, answer the question. Already did, sweetie. No, you didn't: How do you propose low income people pay for the passport? They're not cheap these days. If we are to end up paying for health care for the poor, and not including illegal immigrants, then I've no problem with providing the poor a free passport. That could then be an ID requirement for the free healthcare. -- John H |
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I just saw Obama's HS speech
"D 2" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: "JohnH" wrote in message ... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 12:16:45 -0400, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 10:08:22 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , says... On Mon, 14 Sep 2009 09:35:41 -0400, JustWait wrote: Not bull**** at all.. It was finally friday they agreed to put in legislation forcing folks to prove citizenship... Up until then it was deliberately left out of the law... That's nice. I guess we should all permanently carry our passports around with us, and clean underwear. You never know when you might be involved in an accident. So, how does that work? If you can't prove citizenship, to they kick you out unto the curb? No.. They just treat you and bill me... The myth that folks without insurance can't get treated here is just that. Of course if you are a legal citizen you get a 24 thousand dollar bill like I just did... Ah, so nothing has changed. To get back to Eddie's point about poor, unemployed Mexicans coming here for health care, why would they? Mexico *has* universal coverage. You know, I haven't heard anyone say that you can't get treated here, with or without insurance coverage. However, with or without coverage, an illness is the number one cause of personal bankruptcy. Without reform, health care is approaching 20% GDP. Our health care system is broken, and needs help. "Universal Coverage"? How long do they have to wait? Are the doctors as qualified as they are here where you can get instant treatment, by the best doctors? Instant treatment my ass! They damned near killed me because I had to wait until the next day to get an open operating room. Gosh, one day. Some Canadians would think three months was a short time. -- John H Depending on the operation...darn right. You 'mericans are spoiled babies. Well said! You are so dumb you have no idea, do you? What are you drooling about Dumbo Dano? |
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