On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots

Ah. now I see where the problem lies. ;-) Specter was never a favorite
of mine. IMO, he's always come across as a pompous, self-righteous ass,
but he is popular in Pennsylvania.

Specter didn't jump ship. He was driven out of the party. That there is
no room in the modern day Republican Party for a 5 time elected Senator
should be troubling for all Republicans. In a democracy, he who has the
most votes wins. You don't get the most votes by driving them into the
other parties hands.

I've been reading a little online about the feeding frenzy developing
around Lindsey Graham. Graham stated that the Republican Party should be
more open to moderate Republicans. He's now the target of some quite
vile characterizations. It's quite sad. Graham is quite a bit too
conservative for my tastes, but he is one of the more competent Senators
on that side of the aisle. I could see him making a strong run for the
Presidency. Unfortunately, I don't see the Republican Party surviving.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:08 -0400, HK wrote:


Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.

Who's left?

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots

Ah. now I see where the problem lies. ;-) Specter was never a favorite
of mine. IMO, he's always come across as a pompous, self-righteous ass,
but he is popular in Pennsylvania.

Specter didn't jump ship. He was driven out of the party. That there is
no room in the modern day Republican Party for a 5 time elected Senator
should be troubling for all Republicans. In a democracy, he who has the
most votes wins. You don't get the most votes by driving them into the
other parties hands.

If Specter wants to run as a Democrat he can finish his term as a
Republican and then run as a Democrat in 2010. There is an implied
contract with the voters that he will be who he says he is for the term
he is being elected to represent them.

As others have said Specter is all about Specter and screw everyone else.

I've been reading a little online about the feeding frenzy developing
around Lindsey Graham. Graham stated that the Republican Party should be
more open to moderate Republicans. He's now the target of some quite
vile characterizations. It's quite sad. Graham is quite a bit too
conservative for my tastes, but he is one of the more competent Senators
on that side of the aisle. I could see him making a strong run for the
Presidency. Unfortunately, I don't see the Republican Party surviving.

Graham is loosing all of his liberal buddies, most commonly identified
as RINO's. How long do you think South Carolina is going to put up with
him? Graham running for President, you have got to be kidding or drunk.

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 07:32:19 -0400, BAR wrote:


If Specter wants to run as a Democrat he can finish his term as a
Republican and then run as a Democrat in 2010. There is an implied
contract with the voters that he will be who he says he is for the term
he is being elected to represent them.

So, call him a Republican if you want. Perhaps, now he is full filling
that implied contract with all of the Democrats who have been voting for
him all these years. He's won his past Senate elections with an average
@60%. There aren't that many Republicans in Pennsylvania.

Graham is loosing all of his liberal buddies, most commonly identified
as RINO's. How long do you think South Carolina is going to put up with
him? Graham running for President, you have got to be kidding or drunk.

LOL, the American Conservative Union gave him a 89.79 conservative
rating. He's hardly a Liberal.

http://www.acuratings.org/2008senate.htm

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots

Ah. now I see where the problem lies. ;-) Specter was never a favorite
of mine. IMO, he's always come across as a pompous, self-righteous ass,
but he is popular in Pennsylvania.

Specter didn't jump ship. He was driven out of the party. That there is
no room in the modern day Republican Party for a 5 time elected Senator
should be troubling for all Republicans. In a democracy, he who has the
most votes wins. You don't get the most votes by driving them into the
other parties hands.

I've been reading a little online about the feeding frenzy developing
around Lindsey Graham. Graham stated that the Republican Party should be
more open to moderate Republicans. He's now the target of some quite
vile characterizations. It's quite sad. Graham is quite a bit too
conservative for my tastes, but he is one of the more competent Senators
on that side of the aisle. I could see him making a strong run for the
Presidency. Unfortunately, I don't see the Republican Party surviving.


What the GOP is doing now reminds me of Mao's Cultural Revolution in
China, devised to "purge" the country and the party of those whose
thoughts were not steeped in doctrine. The difference, of course, is
that the Republicans are out of power and all they are doing is
diminishing their numbers.

Well, so long as the GOP insists on moving further to the right, my only
wish for the party is further humiliation.

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:08 -0400, HK wrote:


Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.

Who's left?


JustHate?

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009 08:20:00 -0400, HK wrote:


What the GOP is doing now reminds me of Mao's Cultural Revolution in
China, devised to "purge" the country and the party of those whose
thoughts were not steeped in doctrine. The difference, of course, is
that the Republicans are out of power and all they are doing is
diminishing their numbers.

Purge is a good name for it. The few moderates left make easy targets
for the "true believers", but when the politically conservatives and the
religious conservatives that define the Republican base start targeting
each other, it's going to get truly ugly. I don't get it. To me, it's
guaranteed self-destruct.

Well, so long as the GOP insists on moving further to the right, my only
wish for the party is further humiliation.

HK wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...



You are incredibly naive. Specter is being welcomed with open arms by
the highest ranking leaders of the Democratic Party. He is being
given seniority based upon his entree date to the U.S. Senate. Every
major Democrat will raise money for him and campaign on his behalf..
The only way he will not be the Democratic nominee in 2010 is if his
cancer or death keeps him out of it. He is 79, after all.



That's the "official" party line.

The reality is that many politicians, both Republicans and Democrats
think he is a weasel.
Not my opinion. Watch any of the interviews conducted right after his
announcement.
He's taking care of him and his position and used this opportunity to
negotiate himself a nice, secure position, seniority and guarantied
re-election.

The Swine Flew.

Eisboch


You mean, Specter is just like every other pol?
Horrors.


Sad, Isn't it?

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:08 -0400, HK wrote:


Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.

Who's left?

They'll eventually get their act together and reform the GOP. Old ideas die
slowly.
We need a strong, healthy two party system to protect from extremism in
either direction.

Oh, what the hell,

"I hereby announce my canda ...... no..... what ......
am I nuts?


Eisboch

On Apr 29, 8:20*am, HK wrote:
thunder wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 15:56:08 -0400, HK wrote:

Maybe the GOP will be born again, but without the Crazy Christians and
the neocons.

Who's left?

JustHate?

Yeah, me and 50% of the rest of the country.. Don't forget that Obama
only won by a point or two, and that could well have been the 8 years
of voter fraud perpetrated by ACORN and the DNC... To completely
dismiss half of the country is just un-American.