On Apr 28, 1:59*pm, jps wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 13:03:28 -0400, HK wrote:
wrote:
As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle, do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...

What are you going to do with the ammo? If you fill out the federal form
honestly, you won't be able to buy a handgun.

This is just the sort of imbalanced jerk that psychological tests for
gun ownership *should ferret out as a threat to himself and others.

my hometown is pittsburgh. having seen what the gun crowd did to
police officers there recently, i'm even more inclined to advocate
repeal of the 2nd amendment. the more i see about gun nuts, the more i
know the 2nd is dangerous for freedom.

On Apr 28, 12:35*pm, wrote:
On Apr 28, 12:24*pm, HK wrote:





HK wrote:

By DAVID ESPO, AP Special Correspondent David Espo, Ap Special
Correspondent – 3 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Several officials say veteran Republican Sen. Arlen Specter
of Pennsylvania intends to switch parties, advancing his own hopes of
winning a new term next year while pushing Democrats one step closer to
a 60-vote filibuster-resistant majority.

The sources said an announcement could come later in the day — or
Wednesday. The officials who provided the information did so on
condition of anonymity, saying they were not authorized to discuss his
plans.

Specter is a 79-year-old veteran of five Senate terms, and one of only a
handful of moderate Republicans left in Congress in a party made up
largely of conservatives.

- - -

Statement by Senator Arlen Specter

I have been a Republican since 1966. I have been working extremely hard
for the Party, for its candidates and for the ideals of a Republican
Party whose tent is big enough to welcome diverse points of view. While
I have been comfortable being a Republican, my Party has not defined who
I am. I have taken each issue one at a time and have exercised
independent judgment to do what I thought was best for Pennsylvania and
the nation.

Since my election in 1980, as part of the Reagan Big Tent, the
Republican Party has moved far to the right. Last year, more than
200,000 Republicans in Pennsylvania changed their registration to become
Democrats. I now find my political philosophy more in line with
Democrats than Republicans.

When I supported the stimulus package, I knew that it would not be
popular with the Republican Party. But, I saw the stimulus as necessary
to lessen the risk of a far more serious recession than we are now
experiencing.

Since then, I have traveled the State, talked to Republican leaders and
office-holders and my supporters and I have carefully examined public
opinion. It has become clear to me that the stimulus vote caused a
schism which makes our differences irreconcilable. On this state of the
record, I am unwilling to have my twenty-nine year Senate record judged
by the Pennsylvania Republican primary electorate. I have not
represented the Republican Party. I have represented the people of
Pennsylvania.

I have decided to run for re-election in 2010 in the Democratic primary.

I am ready, willing and anxious to take on all comers and have my
candidacy for re-election determined in a general election.

I deeply regret that I will be disappointing many friends and
supporters. I can understand their disappointment. I am also
disappointed that so many in the Party I have worked for for more than
four decades do not want me to be their candidate. It is very painful on
both sides. I thank specially Senators McConnell and Cornyn for their
forbearance.

I am not making this decision because there are no important and
interesting opportunities outside the Senate. I take on this complicated
run for re-election because I am deeply concerned about the future of
our country and I believe I have a significant contribution to make on
many of the key issues of the day, especially medical research. NIH
funding has saved or lengthened thousands of lives, including mine, and
much more needs to be done. And my seniority is very important to
continue to bring important projects vital to Pennsylvania's economy.

I am taking this action now because there are fewer than thirteen months
to the 2010 Pennsylvania Primary and there is much to be done in
preparation for that election. Upon request, I will return campaign
contributions contributed during this cycle.

While each member of the Senate caucuses with his Party, what each of us
hopes to accomplish is distinct from his party affiliation. The American
people do not care which Party solves the problems confronting our
nation. And no Senator, no matter how loyal he is to his Party, should
or would put party loyalty above his duty to the state and nation.

My change in party affiliation does not mean that I will be a party-line
voter any more for the Democrats that I have been for the Republicans..
Unlike Senator Jeffords' switch which changed party control, I will not
be an automatic 60th vote for cloture. For example, my position on
Employees Free Choice (Card Check) will not change.

Whatever my party affiliation, I will continue to be guided by President
Kennedy's statement that sometimes Party asks too much. When it does, I
will continue my independent voting and follow my conscience on what I
think is best for Pennsylvania and America.

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59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.- Hide quoted text -

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As opposed to a criminal congress bought and paid for by big
corporations like GE and lazy union bitches... I guess your ideal
government is one that doesn't reach across the isle,

from 2000-2006 the GOP had

-the presidency
-the congress (both houses)
-roughly about 35 governorships
-appointed 7 of 9 supreme court justices

and they turned the US into a banana republic (see the article by
former IMF economist, and MIT prof simon johnson at:
http://www.theatlantic.com/doc/200905/imf-advice) for the benefit of
the rich bankers who ran the GOP.

they have only themselves to blame.
do business in
the open, or allow free speech... America as we know it is ****ed.
Time to stock up on ammo...- Hide quoted text -

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"HK" wrote in message
m...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch

Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.

"jps" wrote in message
news


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch



Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.

They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
news


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Eisboch



Yes, and Boner, Cantor, McConnell and Gingrich are selfless.

They have nothing to do with it.
Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots has no love for
Arlen Specter.

Eisboch

The Patriots were good enough to win without cheating. If you want to
direct your anger towards someone, I think your man is Belichick.

Have you become sensitive to Republican senators passing judgement on
American's morals?

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:52:21 -0400, Eisboch wrote:


Anybody who is a fan of and follows the New England Patriots

Ah. now I see where the problem lies. ;-) Specter was never a favorite
of mine. IMO, he's always come across as a pompous, self-righteous ass,
but he is popular in Pennsylvania.

Specter didn't jump ship. He was driven out of the party. That there is
no room in the modern day Republican Party for a 5 time elected Senator
should be troubling for all Republicans. In a democracy, he who has the
most votes wins. You don't get the most votes by driving them into the
other parties hands.

I've been reading a little online about the feeding frenzy developing
around Lindsey Graham. Graham stated that the Republican Party should be
more open to moderate Republicans. He's now the target of some quite
vile characterizations. It's quite sad. Graham is quite a bit too
conservative for my tastes, but he is one of the more competent Senators
on that side of the aisle. I could see him making a strong run for the
Presidency. Unfortunately, I don't see the Republican Party surviving.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
om...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Hope he takes the Sob Sisters from Maine with him.

It's going to be sooooo much fun watching him lose his seat.

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 18:51:55 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:


"HK" wrote in message
news:GaudnXumQtJRsGrUnZ2dnUVZ_jpi4p2d@earthlink. com...


59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.


The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Hope he takes the Sob Sisters from Maine with him.

It's going to be sooooo much fun watching him lose his seat.

To another Democrat in the primary?

We'd be pleased to have the Sob Sisters. By losing all three moderate
R's would be further marginalized and viewed as a party which caters
only to hard core righties.

With the baptists exiting and the evangelicals catching on, the only
large blocs will be the rich and the poor suckers.

A beer sponsorship may help keep the suckers in line. I recommend a
call to Peter Coors, son of Adolf.

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:05:24 -0400, "Eisboch"
wrote:

"HK" wrote in message
m...

59 seats and counting...if Franken is seated, that makes a filibuster
proof Democratic majority in the Senate on many Democratic issues, and a
further decline for the crazy conservative Republicans.

The Dems can have Specter. He'll be a credit to the party, I am sure.
(barf)
He has only one thing and one person's interests in mind and to hell with
anyone else, Republican or Democrat. Good riddance.

Hope he takes the Sob Sisters from Maine with him.

It's going to be sooooo much fun watching him lose his seat.

I'm getting my check book warmed up to stroke out a check to his primary
challenger and if he somehow wins the Democrat primary the Republican
challenger. But, I won't have to write a check. The DSCC will tell
Specter to step aside and retire.

Turncoats are never trusted.