Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook, when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.

I was naive, I understand, in assuming, that this connection
would be sufficient ... which reminds me of the old saying: "All
complex problems has at least one simple solution, - - - that
does not work" ...

I'm really not too much worried about making the connections
totally waterproof ... if it really gets rough, I will use my
'back up system': Pencil and paper ... (+ GPS etc. in the cabin)
.... and put my PPC in the drawer. The solution I'm looking for is
a kind of 'nice to have' ... the 'need to have' is in place!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
....

"Nikki Locke" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Flemming Torp wrote:
As I'm very 'intrigued' by the wireless solution, I'm
curious as to what it takes to implement that set up in my
case ... I have been at the vnc homepage, which I find very
interesting, but hard to understand ... my age and my weak
background within this field - unfortunately ... If you will
help me, I will be happy - thank you!

VNC is a cross-platform application for remote controlling one
computer
from another. You can use any of Unix, Mac, Windows PC or PPC
computers to
control any (or all) of the others.

The computers have to be connected together by a TCP/IP
network. In your
case, this would either involve a wireless LAN, or a network
cable (but you
would have to go to some trouble to make the connections
waterproof).

I'm not familiar with the PPC, so I don't know if it has a
network socket,
or wireless LAN. If it hasn't, then I don't think you can do
what you want.

--
Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy &
programming
http://www.trumphurst.com/

You will want to use VNC "server" on the laptop running your chartplotter
software.

You will want to install VNC for PPC on the handheld. The handheld will use
the client to connect to the server, and thus control your laptop from the
handheld.

In order to do this you need an IP connection. This will mean :

1) running WIFI on the laptop and PPC system.
- you can install a WIFI (802.11b) card on the PPC handheld as either as SD
card, or in the MMC slot.
- on the laptop you have a choice of PCMCIA cards or USB adapters for WIFI
- the advantage of WIFI is greater range
2) running a Bluetooth personal network between the laptop and PPC system
- most common form for BT on PPC is an SD card on older PPC handleds. Newer
ones typically have integrated BT
- for the laptop you will add a BT USB adapter if you don't currently have
built in support for it
- the advantage of BT is lower power consumption over WIFI, but you lose
range.

I have an Ipaq 5400 series PPC and when I enable WIFI it seriously drains
the batteries. I leave Bluetooth always enabled since it's not much of a
noticeable difference (the same on my cell phone, I always leave BT
enabled).

The main point here is, as Nikki stated, you need a TCP/IP connection and
that means some form of the above... or a physical connection which is not
practical.

VNC (search for tight VNC as well, also free and better performance) is not
the only solution. You could use Microsoft's own Terminal Services on the
laptop and load the Terminal Service Client for PPC if you wanted (to spend
money that is... because VNC is free).


If you decide on the Bluetooth solution you must make sure that the
Bluetooth adapter (USB) that you purchase for the laptop supports the
personal network service. Not all Bluetooth adapters are created equal,
some have support for more services than others (for example, my Ipaq does
not support the wireless headset profile, yet my laptop does).

Hope this helps.

R/
Dan




"Flemming Torp" fletop(kanelbolle)2rp.d(anmar)k wrote in message
. ..
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook, when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.

I was naive, I understand, in assuming, that this connection
would be sufficient ... which reminds me of the old saying: "All
complex problems has at least one simple solution, - - - that
does not work" ...

I'm really not too much worried about making the connections
totally waterproof ... if it really gets rough, I will use my
'back up system': Pencil and paper ... (+ GPS etc. in the cabin)
... and put my PPC in the drawer. The solution I'm looking for is
a kind of 'nice to have' ... the 'need to have' is in place!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
...

"Nikki Locke" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Flemming Torp wrote:
As I'm very 'intrigued' by the wireless solution, I'm
curious as to what it takes to implement that set up in my
case ... I have been at the vnc homepage, which I find very
interesting, but hard to understand ... my age and my weak
background within this field - unfortunately ... If you will
help me, I will be happy - thank you!

VNC is a cross-platform application for remote controlling one
computer
from another. You can use any of Unix, Mac, Windows PC or PPC
computers to
control any (or all) of the others.

The computers have to be connected together by a TCP/IP
network. In your
case, this would either involve a wireless LAN, or a network
cable (but you
would have to go to some trouble to make the connections
waterproof).

I'm not familiar with the PPC, so I don't know if it has a
network socket,
or wireless LAN. If it hasn't, then I don't think you can do
what you want.

--
Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy &
programming
http://www.trumphurst.com/

Thank you so much Dan. That gave me a very good understandig as
well as specific advice - at a level, I understand. Very useful
indeed! Now, I've got someting to work with, so I will return to
'the lab'.

PS - I don't think Bill Gates needs some of my money, therefore -
if possible - I will work with vnc...
--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
....

"DC" skrev i en meddelelse
...
You will want to use VNC "server" on the laptop running your
chartplotter
software.

You will want to install VNC for PPC on the handheld. The
handheld will use
the client to connect to the server, and thus control your
laptop from the
handheld.

In order to do this you need an IP connection. This will mean
:

1) running WIFI on the laptop and PPC system.
- you can install a WIFI (802.11b) card on the PPC handheld as
either as SD
card, or in the MMC slot.
- on the laptop you have a choice of PCMCIA cards or USB
adapters for WIFI
- the advantage of WIFI is greater range
2) running a Bluetooth personal network between the laptop and
PPC system
- most common form for BT on PPC is an SD card on older PPC
handleds. Newer
ones typically have integrated BT
- for the laptop you will add a BT USB adapter if you don't
currently have
built in support for it
- the advantage of BT is lower power consumption over WIFI, but
you lose
range.

I have an Ipaq 5400 series PPC and when I enable WIFI it
seriously drains
the batteries. I leave Bluetooth always enabled since it's not
much of a
noticeable difference (the same on my cell phone, I always
leave BT
enabled).

The main point here is, as Nikki stated, you need a TCP/IP
connection and
that means some form of the above... or a physical connection
which is not
practical.

VNC (search for tight VNC as well, also free and better
performance) is not
the only solution. You could use Microsoft's own Terminal
Services on the
laptop and load the Terminal Service Client for PPC if you
wanted (to spend
money that is... because VNC is free).


If you decide on the Bluetooth solution you must make sure that
the
Bluetooth adapter (USB) that you purchase for the laptop
supports the
personal network service. Not all Bluetooth adapters are
created equal,
some have support for more services than others (for example,
my Ipaq does
not support the wireless headset profile, yet my laptop does).

Hope this helps.

R/
Dan




"Flemming Torp" fletop(kanelbolle)2rp.d(anmar)k wrote in
message
. ..
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in
my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I
can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook,
when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can
send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.

I was naive, I understand, in assuming, that this connection
would be sufficient ... which reminds me of the old saying:
"All
complex problems has at least one simple solution, - - - that
does not work" ...

I'm really not too much worried about making the connections
totally waterproof ... if it really gets rough, I will use my
'back up system': Pencil and paper ... (+ GPS etc. in the
cabin)
... and put my PPC in the drawer. The solution I'm looking for
is
a kind of 'nice to have' ... the 'need to have' is in place!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day
working'
...

"Nikki Locke" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Flemming Torp wrote:
As I'm very 'intrigued' by the wireless solution, I'm
curious as to what it takes to implement that set up in my
case ... I have been at the vnc homepage, which I find very
interesting, but hard to understand ... my age and my weak
background within this field - unfortunately ... If you
will
help me, I will be happy - thank you!

VNC is a cross-platform application for remote controlling
one
computer
from another. You can use any of Unix, Mac, Windows PC or
PPC
computers to
control any (or all) of the others.

The computers have to be connected together by a TCP/IP
network. In your
case, this would either involve a wireless LAN, or a network
cable (but you
would have to go to some trouble to make the connections
waterproof).

I'm not familiar with the PPC, so I don't know if it has a
network socket,
or wireless LAN. If it hasn't, then I don't think you can do
what you want.

--
Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy &
programming
http://www.trumphurst.com/

In message , DC
writes
You will want to use VNC "server" on the laptop running your chartplotter
software.

You will want to install VNC for PPC on the handheld. The handheld will use
the client to connect to the server, and thus control your laptop from the
handheld.

In order to do this you need an IP connection. This will mean :

1) running WIFI on the laptop and PPC system.
- you can install a WIFI (802.11b) card on the PPC handheld as either as SD
card, or in the MMC slot.
- on the laptop you have a choice of PCMCIA cards or USB adapters for WIFI
- the advantage of WIFI is greater range
2) running a Bluetooth personal network between the laptop and PPC system
- most common form for BT on PPC is an SD card on older PPC handleds. Newer
ones typically have integrated BT
- for the laptop you will add a BT USB adapter if you don't currently have
built in support for it
- the advantage of BT is lower power consumption over WIFI, but you lose
range.

I have an Ipaq 5400 series PPC and when I enable WIFI it seriously drains
the batteries. I leave Bluetooth always enabled since it's not much of a
noticeable difference (the same on my cell phone, I always leave BT
enabled).

The main point here is, as Nikki stated, you need a TCP/IP connection and
that means some form of the above... or a physical connection which is not
practical.

VNC (search for tight VNC as well, also free and better performance) is not
the only solution. You could use Microsoft's own Terminal Services on the
laptop and load the Terminal Service Client for PPC if you wanted (to spend
money that is... because VNC is free).


If you decide on the Bluetooth solution you must make sure that the
Bluetooth adapter (USB) that you purchase for the laptop supports the
personal network service. Not all Bluetooth adapters are created equal,
some have support for more services than others (for example, my Ipaq does
not support the wireless headset profile, yet my laptop does).

Hope this helps.

R/
Dan




"Flemming Torp" fletop(kanelbolle)2rp.d(anmar)k wrote in message
...
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook, when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.

I was naive, I understand, in assuming, that this connection
would be sufficient ... which reminds me of the old saying: "All
complex problems has at least one simple solution, - - - that
does not work" ...

I'm really not too much worried about making the connections
totally waterproof ... if it really gets rough, I will use my
'back up system': Pencil and paper ... (+ GPS etc. in the cabin)
... and put my PPC in the drawer. The solution I'm looking for is
a kind of 'nice to have' ... the 'need to have' is in place!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
...

"Nikki Locke" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Flemming Torp wrote:
As I'm very 'intrigued' by the wireless solution, I'm
curious as to what it takes to implement that set up in my
case ... I have been at the vnc homepage, which I find very
interesting, but hard to understand ... my age and my weak
background within this field - unfortunately ... If you will
help me, I will be happy - thank you!

VNC is a cross-platform application for remote controlling one
computer
from another. You can use any of Unix, Mac, Windows PC or PPC
computers to
control any (or all) of the others.

The computers have to be connected together by a TCP/IP
network. In your
case, this would either involve a wireless LAN, or a network
cable (but you
would have to go to some trouble to make the connections
waterproof).

I'm not familiar with the PPC, so I don't know if it has a
network socket,
or wireless LAN. If it hasn't, then I don't think you can do
what you want.

--
Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy &
programming
http://www.trumphurst.com/





..... And if you have enough time at the end of the installation/bug
fixing/support/crashing/re-installation etc. .... go for a sail!

Spike

Sure Spike, but for the moment, the boat is encapsulated in thick
ice ... so I might as well try to figure out how I can use modern
electronics before the ice disappears, and we can go sailing
again ...

When - or if ? - the spring comes ... I wonder whether I will
ever use all that gear ... normally my paper maps, my 'analog'
compas, and my binoculars will bring us to where we want to go
....

But the 'next generation' is pushing their old dad for some more
modern technology on board ... and to be honest, I'm a little
fascinated by the possibilities ... unfortunately, I don't know a
lot about this subject ... it's a new world to me ... but I'm
willing to learn - and this group has been of great help to me -
thank you.

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
....
"NotMyRealName" skrev i en meddelelse
...
In message , DC
writes
You will want to use VNC "server" on the laptop running your
chartplotter
software.

You will want to install VNC for PPC on the handheld. The
handheld will use
the client to connect to the server, and thus control your
laptop from the
handheld.

In order to do this you need an IP connection. This will mean
:

1) running WIFI on the laptop and PPC system.
- you can install a WIFI (802.11b) card on the PPC handheld as
either as SD
card, or in the MMC slot.
- on the laptop you have a choice of PCMCIA cards or USB
adapters for WIFI
- the advantage of WIFI is greater range
2) running a Bluetooth personal network between the laptop and
PPC system
- most common form for BT on PPC is an SD card on older PPC
handleds. Newer
ones typically have integrated BT
- for the laptop you will add a BT USB adapter if you don't
currently have
built in support for it
- the advantage of BT is lower power consumption over WIFI, but
you lose
range.

I have an Ipaq 5400 series PPC and when I enable WIFI it
seriously drains
the batteries. I leave Bluetooth always enabled since it's not
much of a
noticeable difference (the same on my cell phone, I always
leave BT
enabled).

The main point here is, as Nikki stated, you need a TCP/IP
connection and
that means some form of the above... or a physical connection
which is not
practical.

VNC (search for tight VNC as well, also free and better
performance) is not
the only solution. You could use Microsoft's own Terminal
Services on the
laptop and load the Terminal Service Client for PPC if you
wanted (to spend
money that is... because VNC is free).


If you decide on the Bluetooth solution you must make sure that
the
Bluetooth adapter (USB) that you purchase for the laptop
supports the
personal network service. Not all Bluetooth adapters are
created equal,
some have support for more services than others (for example,
my Ipaq does
not support the wireless headset profile, yet my laptop does).

Hope this helps.

R/
Dan




"Flemming Torp" fletop(kanelbolle)2rp.d(anmar)k wrote in
message
k...
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a
cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port
in my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I
can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook,
when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can
send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.

I was naive, I understand, in assuming, that this connection
would be sufficient ... which reminds me of the old saying:
"All
complex problems has at least one simple solution, - - -
that
does not work" ...

I'm really not too much worried about making the connections
totally waterproof ... if it really gets rough, I will use my
'back up system': Pencil and paper ... (+ GPS etc. in the
cabin)
... and put my PPC in the drawer. The solution I'm looking
for is
a kind of 'nice to have' ... the 'need to have' is in place!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day
working'
...

"Nikki Locke" skrev i en meddelelse
...
Flemming Torp wrote:
As I'm very 'intrigued' by the wireless solution, I'm
curious as to what it takes to implement that set up in my
case ... I have been at the vnc homepage, which I find
very
interesting, but hard to understand ... my age and my weak
background within this field - unfortunately ... If you
will
help me, I will be happy - thank you!

VNC is a cross-platform application for remote controlling
one
computer
from another. You can use any of Unix, Mac, Windows PC or
PPC
computers to
control any (or all) of the others.

The computers have to be connected together by a TCP/IP
network. In your
case, this would either involve a wireless LAN, or a
network
cable (but you
would have to go to some trouble to make the connections
waterproof).

I'm not familiar with the PPC, so I don't know if it has a
network socket,
or wireless LAN. If it hasn't, then I don't think you can
do
what you want.

--
Nikki Locke, Trumphurst Ltd. PC & Unix consultancy &
programming

http://www.trumphurst.com/





.... And if you have enough time at the end of the
installation/bug fixing/support/crashing/re-installation etc.
.... go for a sail!

Spike

Flemming Torp wrote:
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook, when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.
Snip

I carried out an experiment last night. Set up my laptop and moved the
wireless mouse away to the far end of the room. I was able to control the
mouse on-screen from 20 feet away. Set up a remote TFT display at this
distance and was able to work the laptop from at least 20 feet away.

Now, if the remote screen could be made portable and
weatherproof..........................

What about setting it up behind a perspex window in the cockpit bulkhead?
Not impossible, and certainly a cheap solution. All modern TFT's are
equipped for wall mounting, which makes it easy to set up.

A 19" TFT costing UK£225 is available, and could be seen from anywhere in
the cockpit provided there was enough space in the bulkhead to mount it.
Only trouble is, these things consume power like there is no tomorrow!

Now, where did I put that jigsaw..................................?


Dennis

"Dennis Pogson" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
Flemming Torp wrote:
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in
my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I
can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook,
when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can
send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.
Snip

I carried out an experiment last night. Set up my laptop and
moved the
wireless mouse away to the far end of the room. I was able to
control the
mouse on-screen from 20 feet away. Set up a remote TFT display
at this
distance and was able to work the laptop from at least 20 feet
away.

Now, if the remote screen could be made portable and
weatherproof..........................

My wife has an old (you know, a couple of years) 15" TFT for
office use only.
As I'm looking for a 'nice to know-solution' (not to say
'quick&dirty'), and the screen needs a power cable anyway, so I'm
not that concerned about the cable to the PC ... So may be, she
really needs a new 17" TFT monitor? I will ask her ...

What about setting it up behind a perspex window in the cockpit
bulkhead?
Not impossible, and certainly a cheap solution. All modern
TFT's are
equipped for wall mounting, which makes it easy to set up.

A 19" TFT costing UK£225 is available, and could be seen from
anywhere in
the cockpit provided there was enough space in the bulkhead to
mount it.
Only trouble is, these things consume power like there is no
tomorrow!

And also the contrast/light of the monitor could be a problem - I
will have to make an experiment ...
As my initial idea was to use my PPC, I think 15" will be OK.
Some kind of protection will be needed - and, I agree, the power
consumption is an issue.
I will give it a try with my wife's TFT, before I invest in
something new ...

Now, where did I put that
jigsaw..................................?


Dennis

No Sir! This is just a 'nice to have' supplement to the 'real
navigation equipment down under' - no jigsaw will be needed in
this case ... If I won in the lottery, and would spend DKK
52.000,- for the RayMarine M 1500 monitor (one U$ equals 5,70
DKK) it might (just might!) deserve its own 'whole' in the
bulkhead ... but to be honest - its not on the top of my wish
list ...

Thank you for your constructive input!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
....

Your question is definetly a networking issue, compatible devices and
software configuration. This is independent of what you running on your
pc. Get the PPC networked to your Pc using a wireless network hub, and
get VNC configured properly. All else is irrelevant.

If this doesn't help, try other newsgroups geared to Pocket PCs and
networking, VNCs.

Good luck.
Luis Castro

By the Way, all the below is a network connection, but not of the type
that will sustain VNC. So your barking up the wrong tree. Get your PPC
and PC wireless networked, and run VNC to the IP address you give your
Pc.

Chart plotting on a small screen, may be very cumbersome, beside
time-consuming.



Flemming Torp (kanelbolle anmar) wrote:
"Dennis Pogson" skrev i en
meddelelse ...
Flemming Torp wrote:
Thank you for your input. All I know, is that there is a cable
connection between the socket of my PPC and into a USB port in
my
notebook. The program is called Microsoft ActiveSync, and I
can
'see' the memory of the PPC from explorer on the notebook,
when
the PPC is in the craddle ... And via this connection I can
send
data back and forth. F.ex. synchronize Outlook, download maps
from PC to PPC.
Snip

I carried out an experiment last night. Set up my laptop and
moved the
wireless mouse away to the far end of the room. I was able to
control the
mouse on-screen from 20 feet away. Set up a remote TFT display
at this
distance and was able to work the laptop from at least 20 feet
away.

Now, if the remote screen could be made portable and
weatherproof..........................

My wife has an old (you know, a couple of years) 15" TFT for
office use only.
As I'm looking for a 'nice to know-solution' (not to say
'quick&dirty'), and the screen needs a power cable anyway, so I'm
not that concerned about the cable to the PC ... So may be, she
really needs a new 17" TFT monitor? I will ask her ...

What about setting it up behind a perspex window in the cockpit
bulkhead?
Not impossible, and certainly a cheap solution. All modern
TFT's are
equipped for wall mounting, which makes it easy to set up.

A 19" TFT costing UK=A3225 is available, and could be seen from
anywhere in
the cockpit provided there was enough space in the bulkhead to
mount it.
Only trouble is, these things consume power like there is no
tomorrow!

And also the contrast/light of the monitor could be a problem - I
will have to make an experiment ...
As my initial idea was to use my PPC, I think 15" will be OK.
Some kind of protection will be needed - and, I agree, the power
consumption is an issue.
I will give it a try with my wife's TFT, before I invest in
something new ...

Now, where did I put that
jigsaw..................................?


Dennis

No Sir! This is just a 'nice to have' supplement to the 'real
navigation equipment down under' - no jigsaw will be needed in
this case ... If I won in the lottery, and would spend DKK
52.000,- for the RayMarine M 1500 monitor (one U$ equals 5,70
DKK) it might (just might!) deserve its own 'whole' in the
bulkhead ... but to be honest - its not on the top of my wish
list ...

Thank you for your constructive input!

--
Flemming Torp
'Even the worst day sailing is better than the best day working'
...