"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
...
The schooner has two or more masts with he rear mast higher or as high
than the previous ones. Ketch has a mainmast in front and a shorter
mizzen.

- Lauri Tarkkonen


All well and good, but what of the Freedom "Cat Ketch," which has two masts
of the same size?

On Feb 22, 10:11 am, "KLC Lewis" wrote:

"Lauri Tarkkonen" wrote in message
The schooner has two or more masts with he rear mast higher or as high
than the previous ones. Ketch has a mainmast in front and a shorter
mizzen.

All well and good, but what of the Freedom "Cat Ketch," which has two masts
of the same size?

I've kept out of this discussion so far but let me add here that the
East Coast racer "Frog Kiss," a Freedom 44 cat ketch, added a jib to
the front of his boat making it... well, I dunno, kinda like what's
being discussed here. Personally, I call this little blade of a sail a
"jiblet" and still call the boat a cat ketch. But that's just me.

The Freedom 39 is generally called a cat schooner cuz the foremast is
shorter than the aft mast; but the ones with the masts the same size
are called cat ketches.

My $.02,

Frank

... a Freedom 44 cat ketch, added a jib to
the front of his boat making it...

From my not too reliable memory I think the Freedom 44 was a cat ketch
because the area of the forward sail was greater than the area of the
after sail. So I'd guess it becomes a ketch when the jib is added.
If the areas had been equal I think Hoyt would have called it a cat
schooner...

-- Tom.

On Feb 22, 2:44 pm, " wrote:
From my not too reliable memory I think the Freedom 44 was a cat ketch

because the area of the forward sail was greater than the area of the
after sail. So I'd guess it becomes a ketch when the jib is added.
If the areas had been equal I think Hoyt would have called it a cat
schooner...

-- Tom.

Garry Hoyt called his original 40 and the 44 (basic design without a
jiblet, cuz AFAIK Frog Kiss is unique in having added the jiblet) cat
ketches.

The Mull-designed 39 is usually called a cat schooner cuz the forward
mast/sail are smaller than the aft.

Frank

Frank