"Ernest Scribbler" wrote in message
et...
"KLC Lewis" wrote
Cap't Barnes deserves our respect, not condemnation.

I'll let the rest of you hash that out, I was just wondering why nobody
tied a line on Barnes' boat and towed it somewhere. I would think you
could do that for less than the value of the damaged boat. But what do I
know?


I wanted to, but was several thousand miles away and The Privateer was at
the bottom of the ocean by the time I found out about it. Anybody got a
submarine?

Karin

"KLC Lewis" wrote
I wanted to, but was several thousand miles away and The Privateer was at
the bottom of the ocean by the time I found out about it. Anybody got a
submarine?

Hmm. Maybe that explains the estimated recovery cost.

Geoff Schultz wrote:
Get a grip. The guy didn't sail to Chile and spend 4 years planning his
trip to pull an insurance scam!

how do you know?
are You in on it??
did YOU do the planning???

And in your reply to yourself, you talk about sawing off a "stabilizer
plate".
I didn't talk about it, He talked about it, on his website, at the
advise of Mr. Perry apparently,
Hey wait aminute, Is Schultz german for Perry????
O.k., now I'm Boardering on facesiousness..., in this line

But not this one, how did he scuttle a steel boat? Are scuttle corks
mandatory on steel boats, with little yellow tags that say "pull here
if you are afraid that the chilian navy will not know how to deal
responsibly with the vessel you are abandoning off their coast, for
insurance scam reasons"

What the hell are you talking about? This is a sailboat, not a
power boat.
o.k.

-- Geoff

"tlindly" wrote in
ups.com:

oh, I just heard of the 'self-scuttling'. If this is true, it's
probably an insurance scam.
And if that's true, I do hope he gets busted...
Contrariwise, it is hard to support that many bleached blondes....
gotta do watcha gotta do!

tlindly wrote:
NE Sailboat wrote:
Am I missing something?

I think I figured it out, pasted below is from Ken's site...

I am betting we will find that the boat rolled past 90 degrees
(110-120), stayed that way about 20 to 40 seconds, during which time
the above decks were scourged, flooding occured, engine failed, Ken
crapped his pants wondering if his boat was ever going to stand
upright again.
All because Ken [and Mr. Perry, who is that anyway?] thought they
knew better than Mr. Griffiths, and sawed off the stabalizer
plates... I also bet Mr. Perry is feeling a bit blush right about
now...

tom

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 01:49:33 -0800, tlindly wrote:

snipped for hygenic purposes

*plonked* for egregious stupidity

"tlindly" wrote in news:1168422573.348469.285210
@i39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:


Geoff Schultz wrote:
Get a grip. The guy didn't sail to Chile and spend 4 years planning his
trip to pull an insurance scam!

how do you know?
are You in on it??
did YOU do the planning???

Perhaps you should read his web site...Do I know absolutely? No! Was I in
on it? No! Did I do the planning? No!

Are you an blathering idiot? YES!

-- Geoff

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:51:09 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

In article ,
says...


"tlindly" wrote in news:1168422573.348469.285210
:


Geoff Schultz wrote:
Get a grip. The guy didn't sail to Chile and spend 4 years planning his
trip to pull an insurance scam!

how do you know?
are You in on it??
did YOU do the planning???

Perhaps you should read his web site...Do I know absolutely? No! Was I in
on it? No! Did I do the planning? No!

Are you an blathering idiot? YES!

-- Geoff

It's "blithering idiot." YES!

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blather

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blither

On Wed, 10 Jan 2007 16:08:11 -0500, Gogarty
wrote:

Are you an blathering idiot? YES!

-- Geoff

It's "blithering idiot." YES!

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blather

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blither

I have written a Wiktionary definition for "blither."

And so you have. Well done!

Everyone's a lexicographer on the internet...

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Blither

Larry wrote a week or so ago:
On a more serious note, there are lots of magazines, including mags like
Cruising World, etc., posted from massive CD magazine subscriptions over
on the alt.binaries.e-book newsgroups every month.

Hey Larry, how do you find magazines posted on alt.binaries.books
newsgroups? I've tried searching with a bunch of different criteria to
no avail. If fact I haven't found much in the way of useable books there
either, lots of poetry and novels is all.

Thanks,
Red

Red wrote in :

Hey Larry, how do you find magazines posted on alt.binaries.books
newsgroups? I've tried searching with a bunch of different criteria to
no avail. If fact I haven't found much in the way of useable books
there
either, lots of poetry and novels is all.

Thanks,
Red



First, you must be on an NNTP-based news reader hooked to a real news
server, not some webpage-based nonsense like Google. I'll assume you are
connected to a real Usenet NNTP server that has binary news groups, not
just text like the freebies do.

Your header is all munged nonsense, so I can't see what news reader, if
any, you are using. It must be capable of downloading and decoding Yenc-
encoded binary files. I recommend Xnews from xnews.newsguy.com but there
are many others that specialize in binary decoding. .pdf files from e-
book newsgroups decode directly to the readable .pdf, .chm or other
text/picture formats, except a few stupidly compressed into .rar files,
which requires WinRAR to assemble later. The mags decode directly.

I'm looking at newsgroup alt.binaries.e-book.technical and I see
posted Jan 07 a .pdf file for:
Ger's Leesmap Nr 72 [35/53]"Sailing_World_-_Jan-Fed-07.pdf" yEnc(~~/78)
in its subject line. Xnews compiles all 78 messages in this binary file
into one line, making it easy to pick. This would be the Jan-Feb 07
issue of Sailing World. Each month, someone called 4Fun posts the entire
Ger's Leesmap magazine CD-Rom for all kinds of magazines. This is one of
them. There are 53 magazines in Nr 72 CD posted Jan 07. I download
thousands of books, magazines, technical papers and other things that
interest me from this one newsgroup every week. If you need the
Operations Manual for the Boeing 747, it's posted here every so often for
our amusement, along with all the weapons manuals the kids can lay their
hands on...(c; I think I can start a nuclear reactor, too. I read its
manual from here...

How do you connect to the rec.boats newsgroups? Your header in your
message is a mess.



Larry
--
Democracy is when two wolves and a sheep vote on who's for dinner.
Liberty is when the sheep has his own gun.

Just some thoughts on all the speculation going on here. I knew Ken
when I lived up in Newport Beach, he was part of the sailing scene
there. But I'll hold on my opinion of him as a sailor and a person, as
that was a long time ago.

But I will talk about Newport Beach. It's a land of incredibly rich
and self absorbed people, and a peasant culture running the
infrastructure. There's an undercurrent of white collar crime, like
phone scams, dope and gold bullion stock.

Pool cleaning is a big business in So. Cal. I don't know what Ken's
operation was prior to departure, but a one man operation is
comfortable; and with organizational skills and enough Mexicans, pool
cleaning can be quite lucrative. It's also a way to connect with the
beautiful people; there's a running joke about "pool boys."

His girlfriend and sisters are completely normal non peasant "Newpies",
right accent and apparel, and a willingness to blab and bare all on
camera. The local papers said it became quite the media frenzy. He
signed up a public relations consultant before the trip started. His
girlfriend's smart, said she had no desire to be cooped up in a boat
for a year, but was apparently supportive.

But what puzzles me is what he did after the rollover. Hitting land
wasn't an immediate concern. One would assume he had the medical
equipment to deal with a leg cut. If there was danger of foundering he
could have jettisoned most of the *tons* of life support stuff
(propane, fuel & food). The boat looks watertightable. Why push the
Easy button? Abandon the grand circumnavigation, and establish a new
goal of salvaging the boat.
50,000 pounds of steel worth some dough.

Why didn't he just chill until the seas abated, then surmise his
situation? I wonder if he did a shakedown, Hawaii and back, or
better, Vancouver and back. Or any long, shorthanded voyage.