Hey Chris ,,, new rule. If you don't like it here .. go to someplace else.
It is a FORUM. Chiming in is what we do here.

If your logic is followed ,,, the only person on this forum would be MR
BARNES.

Oh,, and another thought. The sailors who go off and sail to far off
places, and arrive without incident, which is the usual case ..

Aren't posting about their boat being lost... why? Because they arrived
safely.

Mr Barnes, and his boat and his family and his rescue was a NEWS STORY.
HELLO ??? CHRIS ??? NEWS? YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS ??/ THAT MEANS IT
WAS ON TV.

If I am off in the middle of the ocean, I get my boat sunk, and then my
picture is on tv and my girlfriend is beautiful ???

Don't ya think someone is going to ask "gee, wonder why he didn't take his
beautiful girlfriend with him on his beautiful boat"?

"Would Slocum have chimed in here?"

Yes ,, page 188,189 of Sailing Alone Around The World by Joshua Slocum.
Captain Slocum describes his meeting up with the "cutter-yacht" Akbar. He
does not have too many good things to say about the boat nor the crew.

Me thinks before you enter the water of debate, you do some research.





wrote in message
ps.com...
How about a new rule? Dumbass remarks on the sailing abilities of
people who lost their boat only from others who have been out as far
and survived a similar situation? Sorry, armchair sailing miles and
internet surfing don't count.

Would Slocum have chimed in here?

And, whoever envies the fact that Barnes has or had some money and has
a girlfriend:
You can have that too: Get a job, get a life.

Good night.


NE Sailboat wrote:
"He is there"

Nope,, Barnes has left the building.

What burns me up about this story is all the folks who struggle to get a
boat together, outfit, and head off. They would never leave their boat
since it is their only possession.

Then this phony comes along. He has no business trying to go off around
the
bay never mind the world. But ,, he has the money. So, he puts together
a
very sweet boat. A boat that should not have been ruined like it was.

But Mr Money figures all he has to do it sit back and let the boat do all
the work.


WRONG!


=====

Oh well,, he can go back to the babe girlfriend.

And he probably still has plenty of money.


But he can't sail worth ****.


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"Gogarty" wrote in message
news
In article 5AWnh.1021$us1.630@trndny04, says...


Go Screw ... I won't lay off Barnes. The guy is a joke!

Suit yourself. He is there. You are not.

NE Sailboat: For some reason or another you seem intent on bashing
Barnes with a lot of venom. You've posted 1/3 of the responses to this
thread and seem to be drawn to following this post. That's easy to do
when you're sitting behind a computer somewhere in the NE. You weren't
on his boat and you don't know the conditions of his systems or of
Barnes himself.

Many people set out on voyages not fully prepared for them. You over
estimate your abilities or the condition of your boat and you under
estimate the severity of the conditions that you can run in to. Many
times luck is on your side and you escape unscathed. Sometimes luck
runs against you and all hell breaks loose. I suspect that it was a
combination of the above.

I think about the 1st time that I sailed from Newport, RI to the BVIs
and I can't believe how nieve I was. Back then I had at most sailed
from RI to Florida and back and had done at most a handful of over-
nighters. Now I'm amazed at how little I knew, but I came through in
one piece.

Since then I've put on 30,000+ miles and still would doubt my abilities
to handle the conditions in the off the coast of Chile. I have no
desire to go there, call it either having the brains to know my limits
or not having the balls to undertake such an adventure. But you have to
give the guy credit for trying.

If you read the credits at the bottom of his web page it appears that
he's spent the last 4 years planning and preparing for this voyage. One
can hardly consider this a lark on his part. Things just went bad for
him. After all of this planning I doubt that he would just abandon his
boat for no real reason.

Most accidents aren't due to a single failure. They're due to cascading
events and fatigue. None of us were there and we don't know the whole
story. Right now we're relying on dribs and drabs of info from the news
media, some of which seem to be wrong. It's not fair to criticize the
guy until all of the facts come out. Even then, it's easy to be a
Monday morning skipper and say how you would have done things
differently.

-- Geoff

You still haven't convinced me.

I think Larry has the right idea... build beautiful boat and take beautiful
lady friend on boat for trip to islands.

Then,, if it gets "chilly" you can cuddle..


hahahahahahahhaah


==============
"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
NE Sailboat: For some reason or another you seem intent on bashing
Barnes with a lot of venom. You've posted 1/3 of the responses to this
thread and seem to be drawn to following this post. That's easy to do
when you're sitting behind a computer somewhere in the NE. You weren't
on his boat and you don't know the conditions of his systems or of
Barnes himself.

Many people set out on voyages not fully prepared for them. You over
estimate your abilities or the condition of your boat and you under
estimate the severity of the conditions that you can run in to. Many
times luck is on your side and you escape unscathed. Sometimes luck
runs against you and all hell breaks loose. I suspect that it was a
combination of the above.

I think about the 1st time that I sailed from Newport, RI to the BVIs
and I can't believe how nieve I was. Back then I had at most sailed
from RI to Florida and back and had done at most a handful of over-
nighters. Now I'm amazed at how little I knew, but I came through in
one piece.

Since then I've put on 30,000+ miles and still would doubt my abilities
to handle the conditions in the off the coast of Chile. I have no
desire to go there, call it either having the brains to know my limits
or not having the balls to undertake such an adventure. But you have to
give the guy credit for trying.

If you read the credits at the bottom of his web page it appears that
he's spent the last 4 years planning and preparing for this voyage. One
can hardly consider this a lark on his part. Things just went bad for
him. After all of this planning I doubt that he would just abandon his
boat for no real reason.

Most accidents aren't due to a single failure. They're due to cascading
events and fatigue. None of us were there and we don't know the whole
story. Right now we're relying on dribs and drabs of info from the news
media, some of which seem to be wrong. It's not fair to criticize the
guy until all of the facts come out. Even then, it's easy to be a
Monday morning skipper and say how you would have done things
differently.

-- Geoff

Your bantering reminds me of the latest Rosie/Trump battle. Neither of
them knows when to keep their mouth shut. Just like them, you're not
gaining any respect.

-- Geoff

"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:PG9oh.1136$us1.922@trndny04:

You still haven't convinced me.

I think Larry has the right idea... build beautiful boat and take
beautiful lady friend on boat for trip to islands.

Then,, if it gets "chilly" you can cuddle..


hahahahahahahhaah


==============
"Geoff Schultz" wrote in message
.. .
NE Sailboat: For some reason or another you seem intent on bashing
Barnes with a lot of venom. You've posted 1/3 of the responses to
this thread and seem to be drawn to following this post. That's easy
to do when you're sitting behind a computer somewhere in the NE. You
weren't on his boat and you don't know the conditions of his systems
or of Barnes himself.

Many people set out on voyages not fully prepared for them. You over
estimate your abilities or the condition of your boat and you under
estimate the severity of the conditions that you can run in to. Many
times luck is on your side and you escape unscathed. Sometimes luck
runs against you and all hell breaks loose. I suspect that it was a
combination of the above.

I think about the 1st time that I sailed from Newport, RI to the BVIs
and I can't believe how nieve I was. Back then I had at most sailed
from RI to Florida and back and had done at most a handful of over-
nighters. Now I'm amazed at how little I knew, but I came through in
one piece.

Since then I've put on 30,000+ miles and still would doubt my
abilities to handle the conditions in the off the coast of Chile. I
have no desire to go there, call it either having the brains to know
my limits or not having the balls to undertake such an adventure.
But you have to give the guy credit for trying.

If you read the credits at the bottom of his web page it appears that
he's spent the last 4 years planning and preparing for this voyage.
One can hardly consider this a lark on his part. Things just went
bad for him. After all of this planning I doubt that he would just
abandon his boat for no real reason.

Most accidents aren't due to a single failure. They're due to
cascading events and fatigue. None of us were there and we don't
know the whole story. Right now we're relying on dribs and drabs of
info from the news media, some of which seem to be wrong. It's not
fair to criticize the guy until all of the facts come out. Even
then, it's easy to be a Monday morning skipper and say how you would
have done things differently.

-- Geoff

"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:PG9oh.1136$us1.922@trndny04:

I think Larry has the right idea... build beautiful boat and take
beautiful lady friend on boat for trip to islands.

Then,, if it gets "chilly" you can cuddle..


hahahahahahahhaah



And if it doesn't get "chilly".....HEAD NORTH until it does!...(c;

I found a great porn video of two 20-somethings just gettin'-it-on in the
V-berth of a really nice looking yacht. They're struggling, she's
screaming and carrying on, banging her head on the overhead, the way it
oughta be!

I took it to a boat party on my laptop which I hid until they were all
drunk and rowdy. "Does anyone know these people?", I asked them while
booting it up? The drunks searched the whole marina, even the transient
dock, listening for that noise she was makin' the rest of the
night!....hee hee.

Cap'n kept looking in our V-berth, then he'd turn around and say, "Nope.
Not yet!", to the delight of the assemblage. The females especially
loved my "presentation video"...(c;

About midnight, I snuck the notebook up into the V-berth and set
Windows' scheduler to play it at loud volume in 30 minutes behind the
closed door. Very realistic....

I love dock parties.....

Larry,, I recommend a subscription to Lattitudes and Attitudes magazine.

No sailing around the world to see if you are one with nature for these
folks.

Oh nooooo...

It is Jimmy Buffet, and PARTY .............................



"Larry" wrote in message
...
"NE Sailboat" wrote in
news:PG9oh.1136$us1.922@trndny04:

I think Larry has the right idea... build beautiful boat and take
beautiful lady friend on boat for trip to islands.

Then,, if it gets "chilly" you can cuddle..


hahahahahahahhaah



And if it doesn't get "chilly".....HEAD NORTH until it does!...(c;

I found a great porn video of two 20-somethings just gettin'-it-on in the
V-berth of a really nice looking yacht. They're struggling, she's
screaming and carrying on, banging her head on the overhead, the way it
oughta be!

I took it to a boat party on my laptop which I hid until they were all
drunk and rowdy. "Does anyone know these people?", I asked them while
booting it up? The drunks searched the whole marina, even the transient
dock, listening for that noise she was makin' the rest of the
night!....hee hee.

Cap'n kept looking in our V-berth, then he'd turn around and say, "Nope.
Not yet!", to the delight of the assemblage. The females especially
loved my "presentation video"...(c;

About midnight, I snuck the notebook up into the V-berth and set
Windows' scheduler to play it at loud volume in 30 minutes behind the
closed door. Very realistic....

I love dock parties.....

"NE Sailboat" wrote in news:Vsvoh.2547$312.593
@trndny02:

Larry,, I recommend a subscription to Lattitudes and Attitudes
magazine.

No sailing around the world to see if you are one with nature for these
folks.

Oh nooooo...

It is Jimmy Buffet, and PARTY .............................




Don't need a magazine to party.....need a GIRL and some BOOZE!

Saves a lot of money and extra work if you skip the boat...(c;

On a more serious note, there are lots of magazines, including mags like
Cruising World, etc., posted from massive CD magazine subscriptions over
on the alt.binaries.e-book newsgroups every month. Data stores much
easier than paper on a boat. Take a few thousand to sea on your cruise.

Buffett always graces our dock parties....at least until Cap'n puts on
his favorite opera singer.

Ever heard a bunch of boat drunks singing along with an opera?....walking
back to the marina on the street, acapella?....(c;

Larry wrote a week or so ago:
On a more serious note, there are lots of magazines, including mags like
Cruising World, etc., posted from massive CD magazine subscriptions over
on the alt.binaries.e-book newsgroups every month.

Hey Larry, how do you find magazines posted on alt.binaries.books
newsgroups? I've tried searching with a bunch of different criteria to
no avail. If fact I haven't found much in the way of useable books there
either, lots of poetry and novels is all.

Thanks,
Red