Why is it considered better design to have the marine toilet in a
sailing yacht oriented lengthwise rather than transversely? What is your
opinion?

Dag Stenberg

Dag Stenberg wrote:

Why is it considered better design to have the marine toilet in a
sailing yacht oriented lengthwise rather than transversely? What is your
opinion?

I didn't know that was considered better. Ours have the back to the
hull which I think is transverse (?)

I suppose if the boat is pitching, that lengthwise is easier to deal
with, but if it is rolling then transverse is easier. So the question
in my mind is which is more likely to occur.

grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

Dag Stenberg wrote:
Why is it considered better design to have the marine toilet in a
sailing yacht oriented lengthwise rather than transversely? What is your
opinion?

The only reason I can think of is space in the head
compartment...they're usually longer fore-aft than wide, which provides
the necessary space for knees while sitting when the toilet faces
foreward or aftward that wouldn't be there if the toilet were mounted
port-starboard. As far as the plumbing is concerned, it doesn't
matter...so if you're trying to decide which way to put it, just make
sure you have room to sit down on it.

--
Peggie
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Specializing in marine sanitation since 1987
Author "Get Rid of Boat Odors - A Guide To Marine Sanitation Systems and
Other Sources of Aggravation and Odor"
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Rosalie B. wrote:
Dag Stenberg wrote:

Why is it considered better design to have the marine toilet in a
sailing yacht oriented lengthwise rather than transversely? What is your
opinion?

I didn't know that was considered better. Ours have the back to the
hull which I think is transverse (?)

I suppose if the boat is pitching, that lengthwise is easier to deal
with, but if it is rolling then transverse is easier. So the question
in my mind is which is more likely to occur.

grandma Rosalie

S/V RosalieAnn, Leonardtown, MD
CSY 44 WO #156
http://home.mindspring.com/~gmbeasley/id1.html

Pitching and rolling are factors, but what of an ocean-going sailboat
heeled to port or stbd for days or weeks at a time?

I think accessibility to hand grips, bulkheads, etc. may be more
important than orientation. On the hard or at the dock, everything looks
stable and simple.

Chuck

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On 27 Nov 2006 12:58:35 GMT, Dag Stenberg
wrote:

Why is it considered better design to have the marine toilet in a
sailing yacht oriented lengthwise rather than transversely? What is your
opinion?

Dag Stenberg


I prefer a head along the center line. A little tighter is better
than too much room. Leg space is also great.

This comes from too many attempts to get the foul weather pants, and
undergarments down and back up in the head in rough conditions.

Make sure the raw water pick up is located as close as possible to the
bottom of the hull. Too many boats have a head that can only be used
on one tack. Heaving -to to use the head is a pain.

Jack

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Jack Dale
ISPA Yachtmaster Offshore Instructor
CYA Advanced Cruising Instructor
http://www.swiftsuresailing.com
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"Jack Dale" wrote in message
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I prefer a head along the center line. A little tighter is better
than too much room. Leg space is also great.

This comes from too many attempts to get the foul weather pants, and
undergarments down and back up in the head in rough conditions.

Make sure the raw water pick up is located as close as possible to the
bottom of the hull. Too many boats have a head that can only be used
on one tack. Heaving -to to use the head is a pain.

Jack

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the head.
Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat where this
works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal point of the
boat, but most visitors would find it odd.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

I too have always thought that centerline orientation is best for the
head. Unfortunately, I've never seen a smaller-to-moderately sized boat
where this works. Of course, one could always make the head the focal
point of the boat, but most visitors would find it odd.

I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the head
mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes great
advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway in any
kind of chop.

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had
the head mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While
this takes great advantage of space, I shudder to think of using
that head underway in any kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting
through the wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre.
Pedestal broke off at the base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each
set athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the
downhill one, and rest in peace with your back against the
bulkhead. Much better than being pitched nose forward from the
uphill one, pants around your ankles . . . need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain

"JimB" wrote in message
...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the head
mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes great
advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway in any
kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one, and
rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than being
pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles . . .
need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain


Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message
et...

"JimB" wrote in message
...

"KLC Lewis" wrote in message news:KpKdnY7Qx-
I should note that I've seen more than one or two boats that had the
head mounted fore-and-aft, centerline, in the bow. While this takes
great advantage of space, I shudder to think of using that head underway
in any kind of chop.

Ah. I can tell you all about that. Got airborne when butting through the
wake of a high speed ferry. Landed off centre. Pedestal broke off at the
base . . . need I say more?

Four stitches.

The real answer is two heads, one each side of the vessel, each set
athwartships. For serious work, you can then inhabit the downhill one,
and rest in peace with your back against the bulkhead. Much better than
being pitched nose forward from the uphill one, pants around your ankles
. . . need I say more?

Broken nose and dignity.
--
JimB
http://www.jimbaerselman.f2s.com/
Comparing cruise areas within Greece and N Spain


Say no more. This brings to mind my ultimate head installation idea: The
Gimballed Head. I've never seen it done, and it would have significant
problems to overcome for hose connections, but it could make for a very
peaceful "pause that refreshes."

Just don't try to use it when at the dock without locking down the head. :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com