On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 21:55:09 -0400, "Glenn Ashmore"
wrote:

What that really means is that, by executive order of the President, if the
USCG suspects that you may go to Cuba even after visiting another country if
you have been in US waters they can sieze your boat ANYWHERE they find you.

You people happy with your democracy, then?
Just keep listening to your government describe foreigners as the
terrorists, and your government's pirates as "freedom's vanguard" or
whatever.

And the nice people in Wilson, NY wonder where all their Canadian
business went this year...poor *******s.

R.

The jist from the US State Department is: "a Canadian crew aboard a
Canadian
vessel traveling through American waters with no intent to carry funds or
commerce to the Cuban people is "at risk" of removal from their vessel and
seizure of their boat. The U.S. Coast Guard would be operating within
their
legal jurisdiction if they were to take such action...even for vessels
that
are clearly noncommercial."

Doesn't Canada have anything to say about this?

Falky foo wrote:

Doesn't Canada have anything to say about this?

Well this Canadian does.
What the hell would it matter what the Canadian government or any other
govt for that matter has to say about US foreign policy? You guys have
the 2nd biggest threat to world peace as your president and the biggest
threat to world peace i.e., the idiot Rumsfeld telling him what to do.
You don't like a "regime"? Pre-emptively start a war on false pretexts,
lie to your populace, scare them with terrorist boogeyman propaganda and
do whatever the hell you want. Who is going to give a damn about an
impounded Canadian yacht in the context of a country that will spend
$500billion and counting to extend its military might across the globe
in an imperialistic invasion and occupation of another sovereign nation?

The mayor of London, John Livingstone, calls Bush "the greatest living
threat to life on this planet."

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Capt. jeff

Oh, come on! I don't like it either...but you don't have to engage in a
character assassination of the leader our American neighbours have just
chosen by a popular vote. They chose him...we may not agree with this
policy or that (especially the threat of seizing my d**n boat) but maybe we
should stop short of insulting our American neighbours for their choice of
president...agreed?

Glenn.
s/vSeawing

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
The mayor of London, John Livingstone, calls Bush "the greatest living
threat to life on this planet."

I couldn't have said it better myself.

Capt. jeff

I'm surprised you guys don't invade us and restore democracy and free us
from a tyrannical leader who stole the last election. If he ran your
country, by his rules, he would.
Paul

"prodigal1" wrote in message
...
Falky foo wrote:

Doesn't Canada have anything to say about this?

Well this Canadian does.
What the hell would it matter what the Canadian government or any other
govt for that matter has to say about US foreign policy? You guys have
the 2nd biggest threat to world peace as your president and the biggest
threat to world peace i.e., the idiot Rumsfeld telling him what to do. You
don't like a "regime"? Pre-emptively start a war on false pretexts, lie
to your populace, scare them with terrorist boogeyman propaganda and do
whatever the hell you want. Who is going to give a damn about an impounded
Canadian yacht in the context of a country that will spend $500billion and
counting to extend its military might across the globe in an imperialistic
invasion and occupation of another sovereign nation?

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 18:55:00 -0400, "Paul Schilter"
paulschilter@comcast,dot,net wrote:

I'm surprised you guys don't invade us and restore democracy and free us
from a tyrannical leader who stole the last election. If he ran your
country, by his rules, he would.

I agree. But we have. We've started with your entertainment industry
and are steadily moving into governorships G.

Oh, and the maple syrup? It's drugged.

R.

On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 04:12:56 GMT, "Falky foo"
wrote:


The jist from the US State Department is: "a Canadian crew aboard a
Canadian
vessel traveling through American waters with no intent to carry funds or
commerce to the Cuban people is "at risk" of removal from their vessel and
seizure of their boat. The U.S. Coast Guard would be operating within
their
legal jurisdiction if they were to take such action...even for vessels
that
are clearly noncommercial."

Doesn't Canada have anything to say about this?

You'd think, but they're too busy fighting the U.S. lumber lobby in
spite of NAFTA G.

Canadians will vote with their wallets if any Canadian registered
boats are seized due to insane U.S. policies. I'm no friend of the
Cuban dictatorship, but I am less enamoured of a policy of "seize
under suspicious" non-U.S. vessels.

Halifax to the Azores, and then to Havana, anyone?

Looking good.

R.

As of February 26, 2004, when Bush signed Proclamation 7757, supposedly
if you have charts of Cuba on your boat, the government can seize said
boat because possession of those charts is evidence of the fact that you
either visited or intend to visit Cuba in violation of these rules. You
then have to prove you didn't go there to get it back. Is this
outrageous or what?

Do we remeber back in the days when we hated the Soviets for all the
horrible things they did? Like invading innocent countries, trying to
shove their government down everyone's throat, taking away their own
citizen's rights, etc....

Hopefully Tuesday will bring a change.

Capt. jeff

Surely this is not legal if i am a non US citizen on a non US boat they
have no right to limit where i go and who i see and i have no intention
of going any where near Cuba any way but common sense tells me to carry
a chart or two for safety.
I just read this article
http://www.internationalchallenge.org/cuba/whatsnew.htm
Sheesh and i thought Russia was bad
Shaun




Tamaroak wrote:
As of February 26, 2004, when Bush signed Proclamation 7757, supposedly
if you have charts of Cuba on your boat, the government can seize said
boat because possession of those charts is evidence of the fact that you
either visited or intend to visit Cuba in violation of these rules. You
then have to prove you didn't go there to get it back. Is this
outrageous or what?

Do we remeber back in the days when we hated the Soviets for all the
horrible things they did? Like invading innocent countries, trying to
shove their government down everyone's throat, taking away their own
citizen's rights, etc....

Hopefully Tuesday will bring a change.

Capt. jeff