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In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:51:21 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:

Ok, but wouldn't it be more convenient to just keep them out of harms
way in the dinghy if you can?

A dinghy can flip, and an inflatable, in a strong breeze can become a
kite, then you lose everything that's in it, thwart and all.

Twart? Isn't that across something?

It's the seat you sit on when you're rowing, or (probably) any other
seat athwart (across) the boat.


I've seen boats that have these elbow-shaped tubes on the back that
have like a cradle/pulley system for dinghies. I guess you have to tie
them off so they don't bang around, but at least you aren't towing
them.

Davits. Little cranes that lift the boat out of the water. Apparently
good for deterring dinghy theft. I don't like 'em, I think they ruin the
look of a nice boat. I'd be worried in heavy weather, with following,
breaking seas that a wave would take away the dinghy or take away the
dinghy and davits or take the dinghy and *one* davit and I've have the
whole kit and caboodle fixed to my boat by the other davit and surfing
down a wave *into* the back of my boat or wrap around my rudder, or,
most drastic, both davits and the dingy go and I get left with huge
holes in the back of my boat! Nope, don't like em!

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

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In article , Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 22:43:58 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Bruce wrote:
On Sun, 30 Jan 2011 00:43:08 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

Just a small point. Eric Hiscock was never knighted and therefore is not
entitled to the title Sir. He (and his wife) were awarded the MBE, but
that does not bestow a title.

Justin.

It is difficult for outsiders, remember that wogs start at Calais, to
understand the British honors system.

No, that's 'frogs'.

I blush to argue but the saying "The wogs begin at Calais" was
originated by George Wigg, Labour MP for Dudley, in 1949. In a
parliamentary debate concerning the Burmese, Wigg shouted at the Tory
benches, "The Honourable Gentleman and his friends think they are all
'wogs'. Indeed, the Right Honourable Member for Woodford [i.e. Winston
Churchill] thinks that the 'wogs' begin at Calais.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wog

Had never heard that! How times change.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

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He is ALWAYS on the internet typing. People with a life dont spend
this much time typing unless your 70+ an tird of cross word puzzels.
He is too old, his boat too small and has too little to cruise. Soooo
here he is.

And mostly he is just scared to cut the lines and just go.


You are absolutly true. that was my pitifal attempt at critisizing
Wilbur. I gues Im not very good at it. Ill keep working at the
personal attacks and maybe I get to be as Wilbur.

Your are right about small voyage boats. In my 20s I trailored my 15'
plywood sailing dory (sprit rig) down to Baja Mexico. I spent 4 months
living and sailing around the mid part of Sea of Cortez in 1978. It
was prety still pretty wild then.

Although people have made open boat cross ocean voyages I would have
passed that advenure up even at age 24.


Me Im stuck in hawaii now killing time. Humm I think Ill go snorkeling
2maro
bob

Whacha doing in Hawaii?
Cheers,
Bruce

Visiting a loved one. I usually spend 2-4 weeks here every 4-6 months.
Now that Im not working as an AB I have lots more oportunity for
visiting :)

Oh, an old friend of mine just finished building a house outside of
Udon. He isnt a boat person,,,, obviously. He seems to like i. Said
total cost of house constructoin was $5,000 USD. Its small and sparce
by US standards but looks pretty nice from the pics. His Thai gf is
pretty cute too. I may have to fly over and give him a visit. Mind if
I stop by your place for a cordial spot of tea?

boB

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:25:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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At least he's probably not having an affair because he wouldn't be
sleeping
in his clothes. LOL!

Not a chance... believe me. Well, I guess there must be one other
woman out there who likes balding, over-weight...

Ouch. I'm bald. :-( Not overweight, though. :-)

Hah! Got you! Bald is totally fine, unless you have one of those
pretend haircuts where men flop over some stupidly long bangs to make
it look like they have hair. I'm sure that fools at least a few blind
people.

Overweight, then I'd have to pass. All that jiggling mess... yuck!


Or, run away!!!

Ummm... I ran track.. :-D


There is no refuge from your PMS then. :-) You can run but you can't hide.

You've heard that expression... he chased her until she caught him?
lol

snip

Sounds pretty strong to me. Your arms in the bikini picture didn't look
muscle bound or anything. But, it looked like you had some pretty nice
"pecs". LOL!

Jeeez... Just remember that was from a while ago. I'm toned but
definitely not muscle bound. I go to the gym a few times a week after
work or early evening.. typically Mon/Wed/Fri, and I ride on Sat
mornings.

Do you have a riding partner? If not you should find one who is about the
same level as you are, perhaps a little faster. It's much more fun and you
get in shape faster and better with a training partner. Riding by myself I
get lazy and don't go if the conditions are a little inclement. But, when
I'm expected to show up then it's more motivation.

No.. well, I did have my best gf who used to ride with me, but she had
to move for work. The other two are just wimps (great folks, but
wimps). Sometimes I chat with this guy on one of the stationary bikes
at the gym, but I'm not sure I want to have him around my place. You
never know.

I typically ride for about 5 miles each way. So, that a good
distance... stop for a gelato or something, then head home.


You must get a few storms in your area... the Keys I guess?


About five years ago we got five tropical storms and hurricanes in a
freaking row one summer and fall. It was a real painal in the anal. But,
since then, we've been lucky because there have been none since. We're due.
Definitely due. Yes, the Florida Keys. A wonderful place for sailing.

Man.. I'd love to go someday... there must be some wonderful beaches
to just sit on and run the sand through your toes (long-time hobby of
mine).

I guess there's a storm season, so just avoid that and I should be ok.

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:37:05 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:15:04 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Also when camping. Put the clothes in a 5 gal bucket, add water, some
detergent, and stomp for a while. Works fine. It's not like I'd be
bringing chiffon dress or something (well maybe for a shore
excursion).

Or evening daquairis at the raw bar.

Raw bar? Like oysters?

Right, but, around here, they have all kinds of good un-raw seafood, too. I
don't do raw oysters. Yuck!

I've had them, but I think you have to be really careful about that.
I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which creeps out my
friends, but heck it's cooked!

snip

Ok.. well, I was concerned about conserving water... you must have to
either carry it to the boat or pull in somewhere, so I can imagine it
would be at a premium. But... regular soap doesn't work really well in
salt water, and I'm not sure I'd use detergent.

Yes, I have to jug it all out in the dinghy. That's why I conserve it as
much as I can.

I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

Many shampoos are just perfumed detergent, I think. I know some body washes
are detergent for sure. I like Old Spice High Endurance body wash and the
ingredients list various forms of sodium sulfate. I thing that's another
word for detergent. I'm sure it is because it also foams up in salt water.
Bar soap won't do anything in salt water. It's like rubbing a bar of wax.
LOL!

I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/



With my hair, I definitely use a blow dryer, otherwise it would only
take a week and a half to dry it... lol But with short hair it's not
needed.

Sounds like you have nice, thick hair. It looks sort of auburn. It that the
natural color. It would undoubtedly look very sexy and sassy short.

I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

It's really a very dark brown.. almost black. Auburn is a bit too
light, but it's in the neighborhood. Of course, it depends on the
auburn..

snippage

Yeah, I'm always paranoid about getting burned. I tend to blister and
get splotchy.


You just need somebody with a nice touch to apply lots of SPF40 where you
can't reach. But, and this is funny, I've noticed women seem to be
double-jointed in their arms. Women seem to be able to twist their arms at
really crooked angles and they can turn their hands right around flat so
they can reach even up between their shoulder blades. Most men can't seem to
reach that spot.

Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:02:26 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

Would you be planning on wearing a tux in the tropics? lol

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:57:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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Yes, I rescued this feral kitten and now he's all grown up. He's still
very
timid around people and hides when strangers visit but he's a good hunter.
He mostly hunts insects as that is about all that can get aboard. There
was
a mangrove snake he cornered one time in the lazarette just forward of the
outboard motor, though. I had to grab it and toss it overboard but it swam
to the dinghy and crawled up along the transom and got in so I rowed it
over
to the shore and put it off so it wouldn't keep coming back.

Is that kind of snake poisonous? Yikes!

No, they aren't poisonous but they do bite and they have sharp teeth. You
have to grab them right behind their head.

I think I'll pass on that. Snakes bother me. You would probably find
me trying to climb up the mast if I saw one on your boat!

My brother had a dog that went after two killer bees that got into the
house. They chased my bro into the bathroom and he said he could hear
them bumping against the door, which attracted the dog. Munch, munch,
no more bees!

I'm surprised they didn't sting the dog's mouth.

I think they did and he didn't care. I much prefer cats. They leave
people to their own devices. Dogs just have to get involved.

snip


Yeah, I agree! The builders around here really took it hard when the
economy went into the toilet. I know a bunch of them through work.
They were scrambling for a while - still are I guess, and those guys
actually made things.

Yes, while the government grows bureaucrat jobs the private sector takes it
in the shorts. All the more reason to read "Atlas Shrugged" to see where
this all leads.

That's what we have here. There's no real job freeze going on at the
city level. Something breaks... just replace it. I can see if it's a
safety thing, but one of the cars is a little old? So what. It still
runs. They just don't seem to have any fiscal responsibility.

I don't much like our new gov. Brown... too lame-brain liberal, but
he's talking some decent stuff about cutting some of these nonsense
programs. I would have preferred Meg... tough as nails, but she got
sandbagged by the volume of disinformation about the nanny. We'll see
with Brown.


Hate to say it but Brown's a liberal moron. And those who voted for him are
liberal moron drones. Ryan was the far superior choice, IMO. Instead the
land of fruits and nuts re-elects a has-been liberal failure. Well, that's
the very definition of idiocy. Doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting different results.

Certainly true about Meg. (Nobody calls her Ryan.) Fortunately (or
unfortunately) Cali governors have very little actual power. I am not
thrilled about Brown. He seems to be saying the right things, e.g.,
reducing union involvement, etc., but you can never know with someone
of his political ideology.

snipped to end

Not painful I hope! :-)

Ouch! It hurts NOW, just thinking about it. You're BAD!

A little bit of pain can go a long way! :-D


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:27:48 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:58:42 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
trimmed a lot of stuff

Yes, they need to lose the liberalism which destroys self-esteem.

Sometimes it really makes me sick... I was so glad when the House
moved a bit closer to center and Pelosi got replaced as Speaker. I'm
always torn because I like powerful women, but she was/is so extreme.
You have no idea. SF makes Santa Monica look like a hot bed of
conservatives.

Pelosi is a waste of space. The only thing she's good for is the bo-tox
industry.

Whew... sometimes when she smiled, I thought something might crack.


I think you'd like 'Atlas Shrugged.' Do you have a Kindle? I bet you could
get it cheap at the Kindle store. I got 'The Fountainhead' for my Kindle.
The best thing about it is the philosophy of the author and how she weaves
it throughout the story and how her characters act to show how pathetic
those who are liberals are and how human and admirable those who are
objectivists are.

I don't have one. I am supposed to get an iPad for my b-day... my
brother (in Germany) was "arranging" something. I'm going to parents'
next week.

Check into the Kindle at Amazon.com - that is if you are a reader. They are
wonderful. They even come with free 3G connectivity so you can shop the
Kindle store on their dime and order and download kindle books. I'm always
amazed at how convenient it is. Most of the Kindle books even have speech to
text so you can have it read the book to you if want.

I would do this if I could get reimbursed. Maybe there's a rich yacht
captain who has a few extra bucks to spend.... lol

IPads are nice but they use a lot of electricity and aren't the best
platform for reading ebooks. The kindle lasts for weeks because of it's
white screen technology. Also, it's easier to read in full daylight.

All true... however, the good news is that if I buy one with the cash
(that's the present apparently), I can get reimbursed for 1/2 by the
office, because I can run some of the business stuff on it. I don't
really need it, but it's nice for watching movies.

I hope you have a nice visit with your parents. If I don't see any of your
posts here I shall know why.

Thanks! It's only for the day, but I'm really trying to go to the gym
M/W/F and sometimes (like today) I get lazy, then I get motivated and
don't get home until late... and, I have to get up at 5 to get to
work... I'm usually off by 3 or 3:30.

Parents have a great attitude about their kids... you graduate from
HS, you go to college, you don't move back in. It got my brother
(stock broker) to get off his ass and get a job.


While liberals hate the human attributes of the mind and try to destroy
those who love the human attributes of the mind they don't even understand
the depravity of what they do and how they CANNOT exist with men (and
women)
of the mind. Liberals despise and attempt to destroy evolved human
attributes of the mind. That's the sad fact and the pathology.

I just wish they would leave me alone.


LOL! You're just too desirable. You're always going to be pursued in one way
or the other.

From good looking guys, I can handle... from money-grubbing political
hacks, no way.

Well, off to the gym in a little while... just going to scroll through
the rest of the posts then I'm gone.

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:41:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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I've seen boats that have these elbow-shaped tubes on the back that
have like a cradle/pulley system for dinghies. I guess you have to tie
them off so they don't bang around, but at least you aren't towing
them.



They're called davits. And, they are not really called for on a smaller
sailboat. They are quite heavy and bulky for one (not to mention ugly) and
they cause the stern to squat which isn't a good thing.

Ah.. thanks for the technical name.. I guess it would add a bunch of
weight. The engine on the Cat was basically underneath the stairway.
Dave (owner) said it was pretty much near the keel, but back a little
bit. I didn't notice any leaving back, but I wasn't really looking.

The stainless steel tubing I constructed and installed is lightweight and
strong. It has the added advantage of being quick-pinned to the fastener
points so it can be raised up along the backstay if one so desires. My
little, 50-pound, fiberglass dinghy is easy enough to lift up and lay,
upside-down atop the carrier with gunwale right up against the backstay
where it can be safely lashed down.

Did you do the welding? I've always wanted to take a welding class.
Seems like it would be fun to be able to attach two pieces of metal
whenever you want. I was also interested in the art aspect. I'm
betting I could get one of the commercial welders to give me a lesson,
but I'm always hesitant about work/fun mixes.

The extra sixty pounds or so near the transom has little noticable effect on
the trim of the hull. These fools who advocate putting the dinghy
upside-down on deck don't understand how in-the-way the thing always is.
They just saw photos in magazines or heard tell of stowing the dinghy on
deck and it becomes a case of monkey-see, monkey-do. It's the same thing
with the rows of plastic fuel jugs along the twoXsix along the lifelines.
Monkey-see, monkey-do. Nothing uglifies a cruising boat as ugly blue or red
plastic jerry cans jury-rigged to the lifelines. Makes me want to puke every
time I see it.

Why would you carry fuel on deck? Wouldn't it go in a tank that is
built into the boat (assuming you have an engine like that - like the
Cat). Even the little can that goes to an outboard would need to be
held somehow in case you lean over. You don't want it to go thrashing
around...

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:43:44 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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I don't think Capt. Wil said that was the only criteria for an oar.



Bingo! But good luck trying to get THAT to sink through his thick skull.

At this stage he's in the defensive mode because he knows he lost when I
quoted Hiscock and you quoted Wikipedia.

We make such an unbeatable team. . .

Hey I'm just telling the truth. If you said something totally inane,
I'd probably politely say you're full of it. :-)

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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 18:20:26 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

Then you have some liberal like WayneB, who was probably born with a silver
spoon in his mouth, casting aspersions upon the character of his moral and
ethical betters. People who side with the bloated federal government are
worse than despicable.

Personally I was born a poor white boy. My moma at age 18 went to work
as a welder in WW2 building Liberty Ships.
My mom got knocked up when she was welding in the Bremerton shipyard
around teh Korean war.. Thats where I came about. I spent my child
hood in orchards cause she had to pick fruit and work in laundries
cause nobody would hire a woman welder. I had to work hard for evey
thing I got cause she OR the goventment couldnt/wouldnt give me ****.

Sooo I learned an an education was my way up and out and as my
education taught me how to be a:
1) Independent life long learner
2) critical consumer of media

I learnde the REpublican party does not want people education past
12th grade. Why?????????

I just did a quick google search and the average years of education in
the US is 12. In fact, we lead the world in that number. So, I don't
know why you're putting down the US and blaming the Republican party.

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:58:09 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 17:07:41 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:13:57 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Wayne.B" wrote in message
om...
On Mon, 31 Jan 2011 11:16:57 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:

CFRs require it for all people needing dock acess for thier job. But
since you dont sail your license you reall have no use for either a
TWIC or that master license (sutible for framing and display) Hang on
to that purdy license.

The latest CFRs actually go farther than that. They say that without
a TWIC card your Masters ticket or OUPV are no longer valid.





There will be lawsuits. The government sold you something you paid good
money for and invested good time for that gave you certain rights and
privileges and now they say it's no longer valid.

That is fraud in anybody's book.


I'm no lawyer, but it's changing the rules after the fact. That's
bogus.



You're so lovable!


Wilbur Hubbard


You're really making a habit out that kind of comment!! I can live
with it.


LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


Hey, I respond well to compliments. I'm not some cold b.... :-)

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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trim

Why don't YOU learn how to trim, Bruce?

As I previously posted, you demonstrate your ignorance of the Real
Cruising lifestyle yet again. the Real Cruiser, i.e., one who actually
makes cruises, rather then an aborted "voyage" around the harbour -
assuming that the wind isn't blowing too strong and nor to lightly -
by necessity requires more then your "minimal clothing".

Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Goodness, a Sunday ride around the harbor and you call it "cruising"?
What is next? Peddling a Swan Boat on the lake in the park to simulate
a world cruise?

Say a "cruise" from Singapore to Japan and onward through the
Aleutians, Alaska and onward, ultimately to Mexico and then through
the Canal to the Caribbean, north to Canada and so finally to England
and eventually returned to Asia.

Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

You are misquoting Lynn Pardey, who was making the point that The
Pardeys are different from other people - THEY make VOYAGES, while the
hoi polloi only cruse.

A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

Well, Willie-boy, you are, of course, are quite capable of calling a
Spade a Diamond, but the people that actually do it call it
"cruising".


So Willie-boy, all your so called Sailorman experience is somewhat
lacking in both scope, and distance.

Says the ladyboy expert whose idea of "around the world" is some
sordid,transgendered sexcapade. LOL! Everybody knows why you remain in
Thailand, d00d!

Sorry Willie-boy, Got a wife, kids and grand kids and I stay in
Thailand because I like it..... Please note that this little,
backward, 3rd world, country, is cheaper to live in, has equal or
perhaps better medical care, and doesn't cancel my licenses....


And for what periods have you lived the "sailing life"? Was it last
Sunday when you planned the "cruise' around the bay.... and aborted
because the wind wasn't blowing the correct velocity for your
tastes.... I wonder what you'd do if you made a real voyage and hit a
period of little wind when half way from Langkawi to Kochi, say, as
another friend did a year ago?


Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Goodness... the challenge of sailing. What challenge is that? You mean
that you forgot to turn on the GPS and are lost? Or that the wind got
up to 15 MPH and you had to run for shelter?

You certainly change your tune, don't you. Only a few messages ago you
were bemoaning the fact that the US Government had cancelled your
license. The Thais haven't cancelled mine... I made my annual trip to
the Thai Immigrations to renew my resident visa and was in and out in
less then an hour (including time for a doughnut and coffee). Handed
over the required documents, the lady officer smiled and said have a
nice day. If that is the "harassed" that you are talking about then I
might point out that it is far nicer treatment then one receives at
the US Embassy.


Again you exhibit your minimal experience in actually cruising, as
apposed to reading magazines. In the last 15 years I have rarely
anchored in a harbout where there were more then two or three boats
and never... let me repeat that NEVER .... anchored anywhere that I
could even hear a generator.


I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.

Willie-boy your so called "expertise" is derived from reading books
and your activities, as you have reported here, are on the level of
that neophyte.

Joe, to use your example, actually did something, he made a trip
somewhere. Yes he had his problems but as you weren't there you really
don't know a damned thing about any of the details or why anything
happened, so your comments about "ineptitude" are just the
blathering's of a totally uninformed spectator. You, on the other hand
made a trip out into the bay and, as reported, anchored overnight.


Ah Willie-boy, perhaps if you would get out into the world you'd
discover what a sailing life style is all about as apposed to your
overheated imagination.


If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

Twist and turn some more. I said "...what a sailing life style is all
about as apposed to your overheated imagination" obviously referring
to your imagined sailing experience. You have no answer to my
statement so, in order to attempt to save face, you try an end-run
around the subject and start to talk about some woman who you've never
met and know very little about..



Wilbur Hubbard

Cheers,

Bruce

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 16:06:21 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 1 Feb 2011 16:56:11 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
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Sometimes I'm guilty of a little irony with some of the pretend sailors
but,
for the most part, I try to be honest about my opinions.

There's nothing wrong with a little irony.. they probably don't get it
though...

Didn't take you too long to figure them out. :-)))))))

snip

NO! It's even more bizarre.. probably TMI, but I actually used to play
with sacks of potatoes.. it was like my favorite thing when we went to
my uncle's place (sort of gentleman farmer with 15 acres).

Doesn't sound so crazy to me. Funny thing, I grew up on a 15 acre farm and
we grew potatoes, among other things. But, I never got the urge to use them
as toys. What did you do with the sacks of potatoes? Make little forts and
houses out of them?

No fricken way! Where? He didn't grow them... just bought bags and fed
them to some cows (not sure, I was pretty young). It was near Spokane.

Yeah, I used to build forts, throw them at the cows (bulls?) which got
me in all sorts of trouble. I used to poke sticks in them then paint
them in water colors.


Totally blushing with that one.......... don't mind dirt, as long as I
can wash it off at some point.

See, that's special - for a girl.

Ok... wash it off sooner than later. I'm not much into gardening, but
I used to help my older brother change the oil on his bike and on help
with family car tuneups... not that they would ever really let me do
anything.

If you can believe it I wanted to be a princess when I was like 5.
Strange but true.

I wanted to be an astronaut. LOL!

So, you're fulfilling your dream of sailing among the stars!!

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:52:54 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 14:50:25 -0500, " Sir Gregory Hall, Esq."
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
trimmed


Oh.. whew.. I thought you thought I was thinking he was the reasonable
one.

I did at first . . .

I get all confused any time I run into an intelligent woman who actually
makes sense. It happens so rarely these days. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard


Hey so wait... are you Wil or are you Greg? Totally confused unless
you have a spoofer? The header info is different. I hate spoofers.




Sorry, Jessica, I forgot to switch accounts. I have an octanews account for
Wilbur and an Altopia account for Sir Gregory Hall, Esq.. Sir Gregory is the
troll-killer. He has the heavy artillery for beating up the sociopaths on
some of the Usenet's worst groups such as alt.usenet.kooks. Sir Gregory can
get away with more harsh and abusive language because Altopia is for free
speech. Octanews better suits Wilbur who is a kinder gentler iteration of
Sir Gregory which are both theater of the mind iterations of Captain Neal -
my real original identity. I used to have an Eternal September account when
they were Motzarella but the BananaBoi booted me (Wesley Mouch of Atlas
Shrugged infamy) for not agreeing with his politics.



Confused? LOL!

Actually, you told me this already.. so no, not confused any more. I
don't know much about the usenet stuff. A work friend set me up with
this account. It seems to work most of the time.

I was thinking about sailboats, since I see them cruising around in
the ocean a lot. I found this news group when I typed in boats in the
search box. It was one of the first ones to come up. The other seems
to have a lot of activity, but it's all name calling.. big turn off.

Cannibal
 

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:44:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce in Bangkok" opined in message
.. .
snip


Willie-boy, you really expose your lack of knowledge of the "Cruising"
world every time you post.

PKB! You don't even know what cruising is, apparently. You seem to confuse
voyaging and cruising.



As I said before Willie-boy. the people who actually sail a boat
somewhere don't talk much about cruising or voyaging they usually just
saw "we went". When you start to differentiate between cruising and
voyaging you, first of all, are quoting something that Lynn Pardey
wrote and if you had read the Pardey's to any extent you'd realize
that Lynn, particularly, is hell bent on proving that they, THE
PARDEYS, are just do much better then anyone else. Thus THEY voyage
while the rest of us commoners just cruise.

But now that you have seized on Lynn's statement to justify your live
then be happy. You aren't a cruiser, or a voyager, as the term is
commonly used and your boating knowledge is from the books in your
"extensive library".

Cheers,

Bruce

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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip
If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

I wonder what that would be like... Flowers, candy (nah, well, a few),
cinnibons, help with a shampoo - like in that movie with Nicole Kidman
(without the rampaging murderer though)?

Ok, I'm really off to the gym...

Cannibal
 

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:39:45 -0800 (PST), Bob
wrote:


He is ALWAYS on the internet typing. People with a life dont spend
this much time typing unless your 70+ an tird of cross word puzzels.
He is too old, his boat too small and has too little to cruise. Soooo
here he is.

And mostly he is just scared to cut the lines and just go.


You are absolutly true. that was my pitifal attempt at critisizing
Wilbur. I gues Im not very good at it. Ill keep working at the
personal attacks and maybe I get to be as Wilbur.

Your are right about small voyage boats. In my 20s I trailored my 15'
plywood sailing dory (sprit rig) down to Baja Mexico. I spent 4 months
living and sailing around the mid part of Sea of Cortez in 1978. It
was prety still pretty wild then.

Although people have made open boat cross ocean voyages I would have
passed that advenure up even at age 24.


Me Im stuck in hawaii now killing time. Humm I think Ill go snorkeling
2maro
bob

Whacha doing in Hawaii?
Cheers,
Bruce

Visiting a loved one. I usually spend 2-4 weeks here every 4-6 months.
Now that Im not working as an AB I have lots more oportunity for
visiting :)

Oh, an old friend of mine just finished building a house outside of
Udon. He isnt a boat person,,,, obviously. He seems to like i. Said
total cost of house constructoin was $5,000 USD. Its small and sparce
by US standards but looks pretty nice from the pics. His Thai gf is
pretty cute too. I may have to fly over and give him a visit. Mind if
I stop by your place for a cordial spot of tea?

boB


Way back then I did a little canoe camping. A canoe and some camping
gear and off into the wilderness - just like the Indians. Not that
enjoyable in the Maine forests and swamps with the sketters and deer
flys as company. Fun while you're young but I guess you outgrow these
things (Thank God! :-)

Cheers,

Bruce

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On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:17:36 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:02:26 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes. If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

Would you be planning on wearing a tux in the tropics? lol


Perhaps not, but you would be amazed how much better you are treated
by the various agencies you have to visit to clear your boat in or out
of foreign counties if you are wearing clean clothes that match the
normal attire worn in that country.

or perhaps looking at it from the other direction, it is amazing how
much better I get treated in my clean clothes then some dirty,
unshaven, stinking bloke who hasn't bathed, shaved or brushed his
teeth in the last month gets.
Cheers,

Bruce

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 02 Feb 2011 16:17:36 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 23:02:26 +0000, Justin C
wrote:

In article , Jessica B wrote:
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:14:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

The very best way, however, when cruising is to just say no to clothes.
If
you don't wear them then they don't get soiled. But, you still have to
wash
sheets, towels, etc.

Well, minimal clothes... lol

It might be OK for the tropics...

Justin.

Would you be planning on wearing a tux in the tropics? lol


Perhaps not, but you would be amazed how much better you are treated
by the various agencies you have to visit to clear your boat in or out
of foreign counties if you are wearing clean clothes that match the
normal attire worn in that country.

or perhaps looking at it from the other direction, it is amazing how
much better I get treated in my clean clothes then some dirty,
unshaven, stinking bloke who hasn't bathed, shaved or brushed his
teeth in the last month gets.

Your boyfriend told you that? LOL!

--
Gregory Hall

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"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

Cruising is cruising. It is not defined by length of passage or time at
anchor. I think you are confusing cruising with voyaging. Probably because
you aren't intimately familiar with either. LOL!

Goodness, a Sunday ride around the harbor and you call it "cruising"?
What is next? Peddling a Swan Boat on the lake in the park to simulate
a world cruise?

You're just jealous because you were stuck at the dock ALL weekend. Too much
trouble to uplug all the cords and unscrew all the hoses and untie all the
dock lines, etc.


Sounds like a voyage to me. . . Voyaging is going from a to b to c to d,
etc. Cruising is more often going from a to b to a, etc.

You are misquoting Lynn Pardey, who was making the point that The
Pardeys are different from other people - THEY make VOYAGES, while the
hoi polloi only cru(i)se.

I'm neither quoting nor misquoting anybody. I speak for myself in case you
haven't noticed.


A Cruise made by a personal friend with his 36 ft. steel hull sloop,
over the past few years.

That's a voyage, PUTZ!

Well, Willie-boy, you are, of course, are quite capable of calling a
Spade a Diamond, but the people that actually do it call it
"cruising".

If they call voyaging cruising then they are just plain ignorant. It's as
simple as that.


snip


Sorry Willie-boy, Got a wife, kids and grand kids and I stay in
Thailand because I like it..... Please note that this little,
backward, 3rd world, country, is cheaper to live in, has equal or
perhaps better medical care, and doesn't cancel my licenses....


Like it as in too old and feeble to go anyplace else. As for cancelling your
licenses, it's obvious you have no USCG licenses as where you happen to live
has no bearing on rules that apply to Merchant Mariner documents issued in
the United States of America.


snip

Finally, you said it right. "A real voyage." Hey, I never claimed to be a
voyager as I've always said that crap is boring beyond belief and an
undesirable way to sail. The challenge of sailing is not isolation
thousands
of miles from civilization but, rather, sailing along the fringes of
civililzation taking and leaving it as is one's heartfelt desire. It's not
being controlled and harassed by foreign bureaucrats and their dumb
restrictions, graft and corruption.

Goodness... the challenge of sailing. What challenge is that? You mean
that you forgot to turn on the GPS and are lost? Or that the wind got
up to 15 MPH and you had to run for shelter?


Of, course you wouldn't know anything about the challenge of sailing having
been stuck at the docks for 30-some-odd years.



You certainly change your tune, don't you. Only a few messages ago you
were bemoaning the fact that the US Government had cancelled your
license. The Thais haven't cancelled mine... I made my annual trip to
the Thai Immigrations to renew my resident visa and was in and out in
less then an hour (including time for a doughnut and coffee). Handed
over the required documents, the lady officer smiled and said have a
nice day. If that is the "harassed" that you are talking about then I
might point out that it is far nicer treatment then one receives at
the US Embassy.


Duh! I never said anything about the government 'cancelling' my license. I
only stated that the government has added a redundant TWIC card they say is
required for the license to be used for payments received. I only said they
reneged on a contract by doing so. Try reading with comprehension for once.

snip


I don't read the 'tales of inept woe' magazines any more. I've had my fill
of them since they regularly portray sailing as some bumbleing cluster****
as the norm. Take Joe, for example. His tale of ineptitude and woe is
exactly the thing one would see in the sailing magazines. And, NEVER would
there be one word about WHY the ineptitude caused the entire embarrassing
and unnecessary scenario.

Willie-boy your so called "expertise" is derived from reading books
and your activities, as you have reported here, are on the level of
that neophyte.


Says the has-been while sitting for thirty-some-odd years at the Thailand
docks.


Joe, to use your example, actually did something, he made a trip
somewhere. Yes he had his problems but as you weren't there you really
don't know a damned thing about any of the details or why anything
happened, so your comments about "ineptitude" are just the
blathering's of a totally uninformed spectator. You, on the other hand
made a trip out into the bay and, as reported, anchored overnight.


Joe did something alright. He embarrassed the hell out of any
self-respecting seaman what with his bragging all the time how great a
sailor he was and then being proven totally inept by a little old predicted
cold front. Duh! How moronic is THAT?

Try to get something straight. A trip out in the Bay and anchored overnight
and a successful return with no problems is a successful cruise. On the
other hand a trip to no matter where that ends in a sunken boat is a
FAILURE. Try to get it through your thick skull that trying does not mean
suceeding. If that were so then one would have to say the space shuttle
Challenger when it blew up was a success.
Sure, the goal was lofty. Way lofty. That doesn't make the failure a
success. Lose your faulty liberal thinking or you will never sound rational.

snip


If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

Twist and turn some more. I said "...what a sailing life style is all
about as apposed to your overheated imagination" obviously referring
to your imagined sailing experience. You have no answer to my
statement so, in order to attempt to save face, you try an end-run
around the subject and start to talk about some woman who you've never
met and know very little about..

Negative I was just trying to point out a very obvious difference between
you and me. I like real women - not ladyboys. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:17:26 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip
If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

I wonder what that would be like... Flowers, candy (nah, well, a few),
cinnibons, help with a shampoo - like in that movie with Nicole Kidman
(without the rampaging murderer though)?

Ok, I'm really off to the gym...



Help with a shampoo - now that's hot! I'd certainly like to do that.
Especially if you were all relaxed just back from the gym!!! I haven't seen
the movie you referred to, though. Neck, ears, shoulders and (shorter)
female hair are so sensual. Turns me on just fantasizing about it.


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 14:25:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

Hah! Got you! Bald is totally fine, unless you have one of those
pretend haircuts where men flop over some stupidly long bangs to make
it look like they have hair. I'm sure that fools at least a few blind
people.

None of that. My preferred haircut is with hair clippers on the shortest
setting then just buzz it all down. Those comb-over and hair plug boys are
so pathetic. Who do they think they're fooling? The way I look at it is any
woman who rules a man out soley on the basis of baldness is pretty shallow
anyway.


Overweight, then I'd have to pass. All that jiggling mess... yuck!

Exactly! A fat body, in most cases, is a symptom of an undisciplined mind.


You've heard that expression... he chased her until she caught him?
lol

Yes, the woman is ultimately the decider of go or no-go in a relationship.

snip


I typically ride for about 5 miles each way. So, that a good
distance... stop for a gelato or something, then head home.

Gelato? Never heard of that. Must be a California thing. We have 'smoothies'
around here - protein shakes sorta like. Our normal training ride is 45
miles and three times a week and on Saturday we do a longer ride of sixty
miles, weather permitting, of course. It's all out on the highway shoulder
and it's too dangerous if the weather is rainy or too windy.

snip

About five years ago we got five tropical storms and hurricanes in a
freaking row one summer and fall. It was a real painal in the anal. But,
since then, we've been lucky because there have been none since. We're
due.
Definitely due. Yes, the Florida Keys. A wonderful place for sailing.

Man.. I'd love to go someday... there must be some wonderful beaches
to just sit on and run the sand through your toes (long-time hobby of
mine).

Too bad you live so far away. If we were close by we could do lunch or
something just to make sure we enjoyed each other's (physical) company and
that we might want to spend a little time together sailing or whatever.
Traveling across the country just to end up in an uncomfortable situation
isn't the best of worlds. Know what I mean?


I guess there's a storm season, so just avoid that and I should be ok.

Hurricane season is from June through November but that is really way too
broad. The only real significant chance of hurricanes is from August-Oct.


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


I've had them (raw oysters), but I think you have to be really careful
about that. I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which
creeps out my friends, but heck it's cooked!

I would guess eel tastes like fish. Sounds better than calamari which is
tentacle rings. Seems like that would be tough and bouncy to eat - sort
of like conch.

snip

I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

I could go to the gas dock at the marina but that's too much trouble and
the boat can get scraped up. I hardly ever need fuel as my little motor
burns so little and I don't motor much anyway. Jugging it out is really
the easier option.

snip

I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/

It looks like it's got every herbal oil in the book in it. I don't see any
detergents listed so it probably wouldn't do so well in salt water.

snip


I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

Eewwww!

snip

Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

That bra removal trick does, indeed, take rubber band type arms to go
in and out of the shirt sleeves without stretching them all over the
place. Can girls take their panties off without removing their shorts
or jeans? I've never seen that done. I guess the legs don't bend like
pretzels like the arms do. LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip

As I said before Willie-boy. the people who actually sail a boat
somewhere don't talk much about cruising or voyaging they usually just
saw "we went". When you start to differentiate between cruising and
voyaging you, first of all, are quoting something that Lynn Pardey
wrote and if you had read the Pardey's to any extent you'd realize
that Lynn, particularly, is hell bent on proving that they, THE
PARDEYS, are just do much better then anyone else. Thus THEY voyage
while the rest of us commoners just cruise.

But now that you have seized on Lynn's statement to justify your live
then be happy. You aren't a cruiser, or a voyager, as the term is
commonly used and your boating knowledge is from the books in your
"extensive library".


You obviously know nothing about how living aboard away from a dock and
cruising when the fancy strikes without having to prepare for weeks or
months in advance is the very essence of cruising.


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


No, they aren't poisonous but they do bite and they have sharp teeth. You
have to grab them right behind their head.

I think I'll pass on that. Snakes bother me. You would probably find
me trying to climb up the mast if I saw one on your boat!

I have folding mast steps so you could scramble right up. LOL! But,
seriously, it was only the one time when the snake crawled aboard. Normally
they stay near the mangrove forests. I don't know if it was lost or
something. I've seen some kind of bird flying with a snake dangling from its
beak (frigate bird??) so it could be this one fell from the sky near the
boat and was just seeking refuge from danger.

snip


I think they did and he didn't care. I much prefer cats. They leave
people to their own devices. Dogs just have to get involved.

Right! Cat people are seem to be more independent, too. Dog people seem to
want to be in control and make the dog sit, lay, roll over and do other dumb
tricks. It seems to be an ego thing. Make an animal do your bidding = being
too egotistical.

snip


That's what we have here. There's no real job freeze going on at the
city level. Something breaks... just replace it. I can see if it's a
safety thing, but one of the cars is a little old? So what. It still
runs. They just don't seem to have any fiscal responsibility.

The bottom line is most bureaucrats really think the money they spend is
"their" money. They think they are entitled to it while they don't even
appreciate how hard people work to get it before they confiscate it. What an
arrogant group of people!

snip


Certainly true about Meg. (Nobody calls her Ryan.) Fortunately (or
unfortunately) Cali governors have very little actual power. I am not
thrilled about Brown. He seems to be saying the right things, e.g.,
reducing union involvement, etc., but you can never know with someone
of his political ideology.

I felt sorry for "Meg" when the liberal press beat her up for that maid
nonsense. She did everything right yet they managed to portray her as some
kind of criminal. Sad!

Not painful I hope! :-)

Ouch! It hurts NOW, just thinking about it. You're BAD!

A little bit of pain can go a long way! :-D

It doesn't seem to bother Bruce. I beat him up regularly yet he keeps coming
back for more. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip

Pelosi is a waste of space. The only thing she's good for is the bo-tox
industry.

Whew... sometimes when she smiled, I thought something might crack.


Nancy "stretch" Pelosi. ROFLOL! The female equivalent to "plugs" Biden and
the comb over boys!


snip

I would do this if I could get reimbursed. Maybe there's a rich yacht
captain who has a few extra bucks to spend.... lol

Tell you what, I'll buy you one and even include the price of "Atlas
Shrugged" but you'll have to come and pick it up in person. ;-)



IPads are nice but they use a lot of electricity and aren't the best
platform for reading ebooks. The kindle lasts for weeks because of it's
white screen technology. Also, it's easier to read in full daylight.

All true... however, the good news is that if I buy one with the cash
(that's the present apparently), I can get reimbursed for 1/2 by the
office, because I can run some of the business stuff on it. I don't
really need it, but it's nice for watching movies.

I hope you have a nice visit with your parents. If I don't see any of your
posts here I shall know why.

Thanks! It's only for the day, but I'm really trying to go to the gym
M/W/F and sometimes (like today) I get lazy, then I get motivated and
don't get home until late... and, I have to get up at 5 to get to
work... I'm usually off by 3 or 3:30.

Keep working out. Fit women are so HOT! I just love seeing women with abs
showing. We have some women who run around here and that looks so good to
see muscle definition in the abs.


Parents have a great attitude about their kids... you graduate from
HS, you go to college, you don't move back in. It got my brother
(stock broker) to get off his ass and get a job.


Sounds exactly like the attitude my parents had. No coming back home to live
once you are off to college. Odd how things have changed with respect to
this. Old kids living at home and they don't even feel the need to pay rent
or anything. I guess they feel entitled to sponge off the parents forever.
For some people, liberals in particular, spoonging is a way of life.



Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 29 Jan 2011 17:56:40 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip


Broken off or lost overboard. Bruce is very naive. It makes me wonder if
perhaps he didn't arrive in Thailand as deck cargo aboard a freighter.

Ok... that's funny... deck cargo! Sorry Bruce, but it is funny.

See, Bruce, other people have you pegged, too!



Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


Ah.. thanks for the technical name.. I guess it would add a bunch of
weight. The engine on the Cat was basically underneath the stairway.
Dave (owner) said it was pretty much near the keel, but back a little
bit. I didn't notice any leaving back, but I wasn't really looking.

Putting a heavy diesel low in the center of the boat is the best situation
with regards to the weight. It acts like ballast and stabilizes the boat.
Having too much weight on the ends of the boat causes it to pitch
excessively in certain condtions of wind and sea.


Did you do the welding? I've always wanted to take a welding class.
Seems like it would be fun to be able to attach two pieces of metal
whenever you want. I was also interested in the art aspect. I'm
betting I could get one of the commercial welders to give me a lesson,
but I'm always hesitant about work/fun mixes.

There was no welding required. Just bending and fitting the hardware. I can
weld steel but stainless steel is more of a challenge as one needs to use
some inert gas to make good welds. (TIG welding) Welding is a good skill to
learn. Did you ever see that movie, "Flashdance?" Now, there was one hot
welder. LOL!

snip
Why would you carry fuel on deck? Wouldn't it go in a tank that is
built into the boat (assuming you have an engine like that - like the
Cat). Even the little can that goes to an outboard would need to be
held somehow in case you lean over. You don't want it to go thrashing
around...

They carry extra fuel so they can increase their range and save money in
foreign ports where fuel might be much more expensive. They probably really
don't need the extra fuel but, since they've seen it done that way, they
think it's right and proper. There are so many people who are totally
unoriginal these days. They only feel comfortable following the crowd.
Monkey-see, monkey-do. These are the same type of people who will enter a
large anchorage where there is tons of space but they feel the need to
anchor right on top of me. I guess they think if another boat is anchored
there then THAT must be the best place to be. So clueless!


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 15:43:44 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip


We make such an unbeatable team. . .

Hey I'm just telling the truth. If you said something totally inane,
I'd probably politely say you're full of it. :-)



Oh, a wise guy . . . :-)


Wilbur Hubbard

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"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip
Hey, I respond well to compliments. I'm not some cold b.... :-)



I couldn't help but notice. I keep getting this 'tingle' right up my leg.
(Thanks Chris Matthews!)


Wilbur Hubbard

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No fricken way! Where? He didn't grow them... just bought bags and fed
them to some cows (not sure, I was pretty young). It was near Spokane.

Never heard of feeding potatoes to cows. LOL! Are you sure he didn't plant
them. The best way to grow potatoes is to plant potatoes.



Yeah, I used to build forts, throw them at the cows (bulls?) which got
me in all sorts of trouble. I used to poke sticks in them then paint
them in water colors.


You must have been a little hoot! LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

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Actually, you told me this already.. so no, not confused any more. I
don't know much about the usenet stuff. A work friend set me up with
this account. It seems to work most of the time.

It's really not too bad for a free news server from a reliability
standpoint. But, don't say anything TOO controversial because they like to
censor. I swear the admin is a jackbooted thug. A net nanny of the worst
sort.


I was thinking about sailboats, since I see them cruising around in
the ocean a lot. I found this news group when I typed in boats in the
search box. It was one of the first ones to come up. The other seems
to have a lot of activity, but it's all name calling.. big turn off.


Hear that, Bruce? LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:06:41 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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If I have an overheated imagination lately it's probably because of
JessicaB. That girl is about as perfect as any I've run across in decades.
She has little or no trouble seeing you pretenders for what you are. That
alone makes her highly discriminating and ultimately desirable. If only I
were about 25-30 years younger I'd have to seriously pursue her.

I wonder what that would be like... Flowers, candy (nah, well, a few),
cinnibons, help with a shampoo - like in that movie with Nicole Kidman
(without the rampaging murderer though)?

Ok, I'm really off to the gym...



Help with a shampoo - now that's hot! I'd certainly like to do that.
Especially if you were all relaxed just back from the gym!!! I haven't seen
the movie you referred to, though. Neck, ears, shoulders and (shorter)
female hair are so sensual. Turns me on just fantasizing about it.

You should definitely see that movie... it's called Dead Calm (1989).
I looked it up. It's on a boat, so it would on topic for you. And, Sam
Neill is hot!

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:43:16 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Hah! Got you! Bald is totally fine, unless you have one of those
pretend haircuts where men flop over some stupidly long bangs to make
it look like they have hair. I'm sure that fools at least a few blind
people.

None of that. My preferred haircut is with hair clippers on the shortest
setting then just buzz it all down. Those comb-over and hair plug boys are
so pathetic. Who do they think they're fooling? The way I look at it is any
woman who rules a man out soley on the basis of baldness is pretty shallow
anyway.

Thank GOD! If you had said something like, well, it looks good on me.
I would have probably not said much after. :)

Hey baldness is 1) sexy (if honest about it) 2) tends to mean lots of
"energy" 3) probably indicates lack of head lice.


Overweight, then I'd have to pass. All that jiggling mess... yuck!

Exactly! A fat body, in most cases, is a symptom of an undisciplined mind.


You've heard that expression... he chased her until she caught him?
lol

Yes, the woman is ultimately the decider of go or no-go in a relationship.

You would think, but there are guys out there insist and insist.
Fortunately, I've never had a stalker, but that does happen.


I typically ride for about 5 miles each way. So, that a good
distance... stop for a gelato or something, then head home.

Gelato? Never heard of that. Must be a California thing. We have 'smoothies'
around here - protein shakes sorta like. Our normal training ride is 45
miles and three times a week and on Saturday we do a longer ride of sixty
miles, weather permitting, of course. It's all out on the highway shoulder
and it's too dangerous if the weather is rainy or too windy.

It's an Italian-style ice cream... oh my gosh, you've got to try it.
Totally decadent!

Out here, it's illegal to ride on the freeways. That's a lot of miles!
You must be great shape.

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About five years ago we got five tropical storms and hurricanes in a
freaking row one summer and fall. It was a real painal in the anal. But,
since then, we've been lucky because there have been none since. We're
due.
Definitely due. Yes, the Florida Keys. A wonderful place for sailing.

Man.. I'd love to go someday... there must be some wonderful beaches
to just sit on and run the sand through your toes (long-time hobby of
mine).

Too bad you live so far away. If we were close by we could do lunch or
something just to make sure we enjoyed each other's (physical) company and
that we might want to spend a little time together sailing or whatever.
Traveling across the country just to end up in an uncomfortable situation
isn't the best of worlds. Know what I mean?

Definitely know what you mean... Sometimes having a coffee with
someone is uncomfortable enough! lol

It does sound really fabulous though... sunset sail and a cool beer.
Yum!


I guess there's a storm season, so just avoid that and I should be ok.

Hurricane season is from June through November but that is really way too
broad. The only real significant chance of hurricanes is from August-Oct.

So then something like April/May would be good? Just wondering... Is
there an ideal time of year? Umm zephyrs? See, I've been Googling. :)

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 10:54:51 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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I've had them (raw oysters), but I think you have to be really careful
about that. I'm not a huge sushi fan anyway. Cooked eel is ok, which
creeps out my friends, but heck it's cooked!

I would guess eel tastes like fish. Sounds better than calamari which is
tentacle rings. Seems like that would be tough and bouncy to eat - sort
of like conch.

Calamari is THE Cali dish I think. You can get it cooked all sorts of
ways. I wouldn't eat it raw... as you say, too tough.

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I bet.. I guess one way or another, you have to get water to the boat.
Can't you drive it into the shore somewhere and fill up?

I could go to the gas dock at the marina but that's too much trouble and
the boat can get scraped up. I hardly ever need fuel as my little motor
burns so little and I don't motor much anyway. Jugging it out is really
the easier option.
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I use this... doubt it would work in salt water, but it has a very low
toxic chemical issue.

http://evolvingwellness.com/posts/54...treat-shampoo/

It looks like it's got every herbal oil in the book in it. I don't see any
detergents listed so it probably wouldn't do so well in salt water.

Yeah... well, I guess I would be a water waster. Probably have to do
extra duty as the galley slave. lol

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I'd say it's moderately thick. Definitely not thin. When I was a kid
my brother called me bristle head (I had a crew cut because I got head
lice).

Eewwww!

Kids are filthy little buggers. :) Fortunately, my niece is well
beyond that stage at this point, and she's the only one I associate
with (technically, I have others in Germany). She's here with her mom
with dad over there.

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Yes! Like under the swimsuit straps or just under my arms below the
armpit or on my trapeziums. I always miss something, then fall asleep,
then it's red and painful.

Hey how do you think we get the bra off without taking off our top?
It's magic! :-)

That bra removal trick does, indeed, take rubber band type arms to go
in and out of the shirt sleeves without stretching them all over the
place. Can girls take their panties off without removing their shorts
or jeans? I've never seen that done. I guess the legs don't bend like
pretzels like the arms do. LOL!

I'll never tell! The key is waking up with them with the correct side
out in the morning (college fun). Probably TMI.

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:09:27 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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No, they aren't poisonous but they do bite and they have sharp teeth. You
have to grab them right behind their head.

I think I'll pass on that. Snakes bother me. You would probably find
me trying to climb up the mast if I saw one on your boat!

I have folding mast steps so you could scramble right up. LOL! But,
seriously, it was only the one time when the snake crawled aboard. Normally
they stay near the mangrove forests. I don't know if it was lost or
something. I've seen some kind of bird flying with a snake dangling from its
beak (frigate bird??) so it could be this one fell from the sky near the
boat and was just seeking refuge from danger.

Oh JESUS!! I don't think I could take snakes falling from the sky. lol

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I think they did and he didn't care. I much prefer cats. They leave
people to their own devices. Dogs just have to get involved.

Right! Cat people are seem to be more independent, too. Dog people seem to
want to be in control and make the dog sit, lay, roll over and do other dumb
tricks. It seems to be an ego thing. Make an animal do your bidding = being
too egotistical.

Yeah... Heil the master bs. You try that with a cat and best case it
just looks at you.

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That's what we have here. There's no real job freeze going on at the
city level. Something breaks... just replace it. I can see if it's a
safety thing, but one of the cars is a little old? So what. It still
runs. They just don't seem to have any fiscal responsibility.

The bottom line is most bureaucrats really think the money they spend is
"their" money. They think they are entitled to it while they don't even
appreciate how hard people work to get it before they confiscate it. What an
arrogant group of people!

Yes, exactly! It's my friggin money. I'm willing to pay for common
sense things, but I'm not willing to pay for nonsense.

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Certainly true about Meg. (Nobody calls her Ryan.) Fortunately (or
unfortunately) Cali governors have very little actual power. I am not
thrilled about Brown. He seems to be saying the right things, e.g.,
reducing union involvement, etc., but you can never know with someone
of his political ideology.

I felt sorry for "Meg" when the liberal press beat her up for that maid
nonsense. She did everything right yet they managed to portray her as some
kind of criminal. Sad!

It was sick. Oh well.. at least she could afford it. Cali is a bit
strange wouldn't you say...


Not painful I hope! :-)

Ouch! It hurts NOW, just thinking about it. You're BAD!

A little bit of pain can go a long way! :-D

It doesn't seem to bother Bruce. I beat him up regularly yet he keeps coming
back for more. LOL!

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:18:38 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Pelosi is a waste of space. The only thing she's good for is the bo-tox
industry.

Whew... sometimes when she smiled, I thought something might crack.


Nancy "stretch" Pelosi. ROFLOL! The female equivalent to "plugs" Biden and
the comb over boys!


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I would do this if I could get reimbursed. Maybe there's a rich yacht
captain who has a few extra bucks to spend.... lol

Tell you what, I'll buy you one and even include the price of "Atlas
Shrugged" but you'll have to come and pick it up in person. ;-)

Hmmm.... I'll have to check my vacation accrual. :-)


IPads are nice but they use a lot of electricity and aren't the best
platform for reading ebooks. The kindle lasts for weeks because of it's
white screen technology. Also, it's easier to read in full daylight.

All true... however, the good news is that if I buy one with the cash
(that's the present apparently), I can get reimbursed for 1/2 by the
office, because I can run some of the business stuff on it. I don't
really need it, but it's nice for watching movies.

I hope you have a nice visit with your parents. If I don't see any of your
posts here I shall know why.

Thanks! It's only for the day, but I'm really trying to go to the gym
M/W/F and sometimes (like today) I get lazy, then I get motivated and
don't get home until late... and, I have to get up at 5 to get to
work... I'm usually off by 3 or 3:30.

Keep working out. Fit women are so HOT! I just love seeing women with abs
showing. We have some women who run around here and that looks so good to
see muscle definition in the abs.

I can do abs. :-)


Parents have a great attitude about their kids... you graduate from
HS, you go to college, you don't move back in. It got my brother
(stock broker) to get off his ass and get a job.


Sounds exactly like the attitude my parents had. No coming back home to live
once you are off to college. Odd how things have changed with respect to
this. Old kids living at home and they don't even feel the need to pay rent
or anything. I guess they feel entitled to sponge off the parents forever.
For some people, liberals in particular, spoonging is a way of life.

I guess they figured they spent enough. I had a job in HS, and I had
one in college. It was expected. I don't know if it's changed... I
guess it has. It's too bad... a little honest work never hurt anyone.

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:30:15 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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Ah.. thanks for the technical name.. I guess it would add a bunch of
weight. The engine on the Cat was basically underneath the stairway.
Dave (owner) said it was pretty much near the keel, but back a little
bit. I didn't notice any leaving back, but I wasn't really looking.

Putting a heavy diesel low in the center of the boat is the best situation
with regards to the weight. It acts like ballast and stabilizes the boat.
Having too much weight on the ends of the boat causes it to pitch
excessively in certain condtions of wind and sea.

But you have a small gas outboard right, so it wouldn't be more than
maybe half a normal person's weight...thus no big deal?

Did you do the welding? I've always wanted to take a welding class.
Seems like it would be fun to be able to attach two pieces of metal
whenever you want. I was also interested in the art aspect. I'm
betting I could get one of the commercial welders to give me a lesson,
but I'm always hesitant about work/fun mixes.

There was no welding required. Just bending and fitting the hardware. I can
weld steel but stainless steel is more of a challenge as one needs to use
some inert gas to make good welds. (TIG welding) Welding is a good skill to
learn. Did you ever see that movie, "Flashdance?" Now, there was one hot
welder. LOL!

Sure... Jennifer Beals (sp?) was hot in that, but she wasn't the
dancer. I should definitely take a class. I think I can get it paid
for through work, so why the heck not. There must be a CC around here
that offers it. I bet I'll be the only woman in the class... great
ratio!!

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Why would you carry fuel on deck? Wouldn't it go in a tank that is
built into the boat (assuming you have an engine like that - like the
Cat). Even the little can that goes to an outboard would need to be
held somehow in case you lean over. You don't want it to go thrashing
around...

They carry extra fuel so they can increase their range and save money in
foreign ports where fuel might be much more expensive. They probably really
don't need the extra fuel but, since they've seen it done that way, they
think it's right and proper. There are so many people who are totally
unoriginal these days. They only feel comfortable following the crowd.
Monkey-see, monkey-do. These are the same type of people who will enter a
large anchorage where there is tons of space but they feel the need to
anchor right on top of me. I guess they think if another boat is anchored
there then THAT must be the best place to be. So clueless!

Seems to me that the last thing you want to do is having fuel on the
deck. It could even be stolen if you leave the boat. I could see maybe
having some extra if you're crossing an ocean, but if you just stock
up on food and water, it seems like you could just wait it out if you
can't sail, right? All the big yachts must cost a bunch of money, so
they can't be hard up for money for fuel.

Wilbur Hubbard

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On Fri, 4 Feb 2011 11:31:59 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
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We make such an unbeatable team. . .

Hey I'm just telling the truth. If you said something totally inane,
I'd probably politely say you're full of it. :-)



Oh, a wise guy . . . :-)

Well, you can say I'm beautiful all you want and I won't complain or
say you're full of it. :-)