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Jessica B wrote:
On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:05 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Hi Richard, Well, I guess I was concerned that it would be alot of space and weight. Aren't there anchors that overlap as far as use goes? Yes on space and weight. The Rodes especially. I have three now - 250 to 300 feet each. AND chain (need more of that still) Not really for the overlap... A Danforth is good with mud and sand. But it's not great in rocks. Like Wilbur pointed out, a Herrschoff pattern (and a heavy Navy pattern) work well in rocky crags. Fishermen use a mushroom type, but I have no use for that on a sailboat. -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:59:22 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip In my case (and Jimbo's) you don't get anything else unless you get the mind first. Stace is a less strict. You never know who's going to be leaving in the morning (we were roommates in college). Can't fault any of that. Well,, she's not a slut or anything... I don't mean to bad-mouth her. She's a wonderful person... just sometimes she makes questionable choices. I guess we all do. That's true. And, it's the chooser who reaps the rewards or suffers the adversity for their choice so I figure it's their own business to have whatever promiscuity standards they're comfortable with. To each his/her own when it comes to sexual mores in singles. Married? Then that's a horse of a different color . . . Exactly. If you're married, you should, well, act married. If you're single, you're single. Have you ever been married? So, who exactly was the woman? LOL You don't have to tell me if you don't want. You're over 18! I was having this same basic conversation with my niece... she's just getting to the age when boys are more than annoying... She told me she wants to "date" this guy from school, but I don't think she really understand the emotional vulnerability that it includes. I told her go slow and bring him home so parents can check him out. |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:10:42 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip I just want to know who the fricken woman was who was on your boat!!! lol Surely, you're not the jealous type? She's the one I mentioned who ran a background check on me to make sure I wasn't some criminal or pervert. She took that video about six years ago now when she came down for a visit. We're still friends. Jealous? Me?? hahahaha... no.. just wondering. What did she find out? LOL It's nice you're still friends... that counts for something! |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:22:02 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip I have no idea where the Florida Bay is... is that on the west side? I'm guessing, but it seems like there's ocean all around. Florida Bay is the water between the Keys and the mainland peninsular. Much of it is way too shallow except for canoes, kayaks, etc. It has lots of little mangrove islands. But, closer to the Keys island chain the water is deep enough to sail and the Intracoastal Waterway runs though it. Oh... Fort Jefferson... I looked it up and it looks like it's the same as the Dry Tortugas, which is what I was thinking of... http://www.nps.gov/drto/index.htm That looks beautiful! Can your boat go there? Sure she can. I've never been out there but it would make a nice trip. Probably would take a couple weeks to do a round trip right. According to google maps it's about 60 or 70 miles away? I guess you have to be good at navigation! That would leave me out. :-( Or, you could go due south and go to Cuba! Even I could figure that out! |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. So you would use it just when you want to stop for lunch? Is it really that much of a difference? Seems like it would take up a lot of space and not get you much. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. ?? I think most women can do the work. How heavy are you talking about?? And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:19:38 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:05 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Hi Richard, Well, I guess I was concerned that it would be alot of space and weight. Aren't there anchors that overlap as far as use goes? Yes on space and weight. The Rodes especially. I have three now - 250 to 300 feet each. AND chain (need more of that still) That's ALOT of rope!! You must have a pretty big boat! Do tell... Not really for the overlap... A Danforth is good with mud and sand. But it's not great in rocks. Like Wilbur pointed out, a Herrschoff pattern (and a heavy Navy pattern) work well in rocky crags. Fishermen use a mushroom type, but I have no use for that on a sailboat. I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) |
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Jessica B wrote:
snipped And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? The cockpit is aft. That's were I play most of the time. Our marina is very tight in places. Loss of power, or whatever, might necessitate a quick stop. Hence the stern anchor. It takes ten seconds to deploy. Question back atcha... Why do you have to anchor off the bow? We get a better breeze stern-to. :) But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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Jessica B wrote:
I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:39:18 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? If you really, really, want a Bruce then pick one out: http://www.viking-moorings.com/Porta...in%20shank.pdf Cheers, Bruce |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:38:31 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: snipped And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? The cockpit is aft. That's were I play most of the time. Our marina is very tight in places. Loss of power, or whatever, might necessitate a quick stop. Hence the stern anchor. It takes ten seconds to deploy. Question back atcha... Why do you have to anchor off the bow? We get a better breeze stern-to. :) But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) One reason is because the pointy end is where you keep the anchor :-) Cheers, Bruce |
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On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:19:38 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:05 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Hi Richard, Well, I guess I was concerned that it would be alot of space and weight. Aren't there anchors that overlap as far as use goes? Yes on space and weight. The Rodes especially. I have three now - 250 to 300 feet each. AND chain (need more of that still) That's ALOT of rope!! You must have a pretty big boat! Do tell... Not really for the overlap... A Danforth is good with mud and sand. But it's not great in rocks. Like Wilbur pointed out, a Herrschoff pattern (and a heavy Navy pattern) work well in rocky crags. Fishermen use a mushroom type, but I have no use for that on a sailboat. I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Geeze woman. Weren't you paying attention when the guy on rec.boats was trying to teach you about anchors? -- Waldo |
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Bruce wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce Usually in a bucket in the cockpit locker. Which brings me to a point shackles. The traditional U shaped shackle with a screw in pin verses the flattened O shaped thingie with a screw barrel on one side. I use the latter - a big one. It's quick, simple, no pin to lose and can be done by hand alone. But YMMV? -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:39:18 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? If you really, really, want a Bruce then pick one out: http://www.viking-moorings.com/Porta...in%20shank.pdf Cheers, Bruce Jeez, Bruce! Nothing smaller than 500 pounds??? -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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On 2/16/2011 7:58 PM, Jessica B wrote:
On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 10:34:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica wrote in message ... snip Jessica, this is a repeat in case you didn't see the one from 'Gregory Hall'. Ok, well, I can get pasty. :} But probably not *as pasty* as those Canadians who live where it's so cold that their skin never sees any sun for months at a time. At least you go to the beach from time to time so you might have some evidence of tan lines?? I thiink I did see it.. I suppose I do have such evidence. :-) I might have to take a flight in the next couple of months, so thanks for reminding me! You're welcome. ;-) Perhaps you'll think of me when you're all crammed in there . . . Next to obese people? Nah... I'll be thinking of someone in better shape than that! Ouch! That means you think I'm in bad shape? Who's your favorite male celebrity - better shape-wise? Noooo... not at all. From your pic you look like you're in very good shape. If you ride even half as much as you said you do, then you're in way better shape than 90% of the people... Celebrity? Hmmm.... male celebrity I'm guessing.. ok. This link is pretty strange, but here's my answer... http://backseatcuddler.com/2007/09/0...crazy-italian/ snip Two (anchors) of(f) the front? I guess you could put them away from each other somehow. Otherwise they'd get all tangled. How deep do you anchor typically? I guess in the Keys it must be pretty shallow... like 10 to 20 feet? If less than that don't you worry about waves picking up the boat and letting it land on the bottom.. or is that impossible? You've sure got a good head on your shoulders, girl. Yes, two anchors off the bow as in "Bahamian Style" which is anchors placed about 60 degrees apart as described by the angle of the anchor rodes. In a tidal current they are places slightly up current and slight down current so when the tide and current changes the boat still lies between both with relatively equal pulls. In a wind only situation one places the anchors more like 90-120 degrees apart and this holds the bow directly into the wind and it doesn't sheer around. So, that's what they do in the Bahamas? I've never been, but it's pretty close to you? How do you get the second anchor in the right place? You can't put them in at the same time, so you must have to get the boat to the second spot. It must be tough to judge where it is in relation to the first one, since it's on the bottom. It takes a little practice but it's not overly difficult. Many places in the Bahamas develop some pretty strong tidal currents and it changes directions twice a day so, yes, if you want to stay put you really need two anchors set out across the current and well dug in. The Bahamas are pretty close by - probably about the same distance offshore as Santa Catalina Island out there but there are hundreds of little and larger islands out there. One can sail for months and not come close to visiting them all. Most are not even inhabited. It's a wonderful cruising ground. Sail for months... wow... so cool. I wish I had that kind of time! Placing the anchors can be made into a comedy of errors using the 'committee' approach and/or using the motor and yacht tender (dinghy) or it can be done correctly and simply like I do it when single-handing. So called sailors like Bruce, for example, probably never set two anchors, Bahamian-style, under sail but I can and do set them that way all the time and it is a no fuss - no muss operation when done in a seamanlike fashion. Here is how a real sailor does it. 1) Sail into the anchorage and proceed upwind close hauled on a port tack to the place a fifty feet or so to the right of where you wish the boat to end up. I like about ten feet of depth in clear water so the bottom can be easily seen. Ok... I looked up close haul and port tack.. so close to the direction where the wind is coming and going to the right.. 2) Pinch into the wind and coast to a halt with sails luffing. Pinch? So the sails flap around and you lose momentum... got it. 3) Go forward, release the jib halyard at the mast cleat and quickly roll and stow the sail along the starboard lifelines out of the way. Release and drop the anchor that is ready on the starboard bow roller and quickly pay out about 100 feet of anchor rode (easy to know provided the rode is marked) as the boat slowly gathers sternway. Make the line fast to a cleat. Umm... don't you have to keep the boat going in the right direction? Isn't it going to wander off or ? Sure are a lot of terms to look up... lifelines? For safety? Anchor rode.. but this isn't chain right? It's rope. Do you have to worry about pulling the cleat off the boat if it stops suddenly?? Seems like a boat weighing...? 2500 lbs and a sudden stop? It depends on how fast it's going but still... 4) Proceed back to the cockpit, unsheet the mainsail from its close-hauled position and put the tiller over to port which will cause the bow to fall off to port due to the sternway. Ok, I'm going to have to draw this I think.. sigh.. 5) Sheet the mainsail to a reaching position on a starboard tack and the boat will soon stop its sternway and commence moving forward away from the dropped anchor which will appear by the direction of the rode to be off the starboard beam. This all should be accomplished prior to the anchor rode snubbing up on the dropped anchor or the bow will come into the wind again and the mainsail will be ineffective. 50-60 feet of 'spare' rode length would be about right. I think I understand... basically, you sail up to one spot, then back off and sail up to the other. 6) As the boat gathers headway, sheet in the mainsail so the sail attacks the shifting wind at the proper angle of attack until it becomes close hauled again (but on a port tack this time as the bow slowly rounds up. 7) As the 100 or so feet of the anchor rode off to starboard starts to tighten up it will be dragged over to about a 60-90 degree angle from the anchor (180 degrees being directly downwind). When the boats gets as far upwind as she will go and the starboard anchor pulls the bow directly into the wind then go forward and drop the anchor that is ready on the port bow roller. 8) Once the anchor strikes bottom, pay out some line and jerk the rode a few times to set the anchor in the bottom as the boat falls back between the two anchors and then pay out about fifty feet of rode and make it fast on a cleat. Then uncleat the starboard anchor rode and slowly retrieve about fifty feet of rode and make it fast to a cleat. The boat will then be lying between the two anchors with the angle described by the anchors of about 90-120 degrees. If one or more of the anchors don't hold the angle will decrease. If they hold the angle will remain constant. 9) On your way back to the cockpit stop at the mast and release the main halyard and let the mainsail fall and strap it to the boom. 10) Look around and note some readily apparent ranges (objects you can line up one behind the other) ashore so you can reference them later to make sure you're not dragging. 11) Go below, grab a cold beer, sit in the cockpit and enjoy but check the ranges over several minutes. If the ranges don't change then you can assume the anchors are both holding. If you really want to feel secure, grab the mask, snorkel and fins and dive the anchors and make sure they are well dug in so you can sleep soundly that night. This scenario is for non-current, wind only situations. It must be modified somewhat or quite a bit depending on the direction and strength of tidal currents, if any. I'm going to print this out! I definitely got the part about the cold beer, diving on the anchors and sleeping soundly. :-) I generally prefer to anchor in relatively shallow water - around six feet at mean low water. Yes, the Keys have very shallow water in many places. As for waves picking up the boat and slamming it on the bottom that's not likely to happen in wind-generated wave action, at least. See, it's the depth of the water that determines the height of the wave and the depth of the wave trough in shallow water. In six-foot deep water the largest wind-generated wave possible would be about three feet. So, that would still give a three-foot cushion for a 3-foot draught boot in one fathom of depth - one fathom being six feet. Ok... I get it I think, and if it's really, really bad weather, you could put the boat somewhere where it's more protected... Right. They call them 'hurricane holes'. They are generally smaller places with high sides and good holding. Do you ever do this? Tech away! I get jargon thrown at me all the time from contractors... I was riding with a gf of mine and she tells me she hears a noise from under the car, so I said I know what that is.. Really??? Well, yeah, it's the band clatter of either the drive shaft or the transmission... now if it's the drive shaft then it's not too serious, but if it's the transmission, well you might be able to get someone to adjust it but it probably needs to get replaced. She was amazed and then angry when I told her I made it all up. See how devilish you are, Jessica? You made it all up. That's funny! Can you say, "instigator?" LOL! As for teching away, I probably teched away plenty enough above. LOL! It wouldn't surprise me if even the likes of Bruce, Waldo, WaIIy, Wayne, JustinC, etc. are scratching their addled pates and scrambling for the sailing reference guides. I was looking on the book wall at the gym and saw Sailing for Dummies! :-) Couldn't you hear it crying out for you to pick it up? Really now. You have been posting here for two months and you still know squat about boats. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:22:02 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. snip I have no idea where the Florida Bay is... is that on the west side? I'm guessing, but it seems like there's ocean all around. Florida Bay is the water between the Keys and the mainland peninsular. Much of it is way too shallow except for canoes, kayaks, etc. It has lots of little mangrove islands. But, closer to the Keys island chain the water is deep enough to sail and the Intracoastal Waterway runs though it. Oh... Fort Jefferson... I looked it up and it looks like it's the same as the Dry Tortugas, which is what I was thinking of... http://www.nps.gov/drto/index.htm That looks beautiful! Can your boat go there? Sure she can. I've never been out there but it would make a nice trip. Probably would take a couple weeks to do a round trip right. According to google maps it's about 60 or 70 miles away? Sounds about right. I guess you have to be good at navigation! That would leave me out. :-( Jessica, you'd make a good fisherman. LOL! Of course you'd never be left out. I could give you a handheld GPS, chart navigation, private lesson you'd understand in less than five minutes. All you'd have to do is make the cursor (boat) follow the line to the waypoint(s). Bruce in Bangkok might have trouble doing so as he's become somewhat feeble-minded in his dotage but I'm sure you could handle it. Or, you could go due south and go to Cuba! Even I could figure that out! I wish the stupid U.S. government would allow citizens to take a sailboat cruise to Cuba but they don't unless you jump though all kinds of ridiculous hoops. I've looked at the charts and there is some fine sailing to be had along the north coast of Cuba. Looks like thousands of little barrier islands with a bay or sound between them and the big island. Can you speak any Spanish? |
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"HarryK" wrote in message
... snip Couldn't you hear it crying out for you to pick it up? Really now. You have been posting here for two months and you still know squat about boats. Maybe she's not learned a thing from your like because you know NOTHING about sailing? But, you might have inadvertently made a good point, in spite of yourself, Harry. Practical experience is worth way more than book learning. If Jessica is serious about learning as much about sailing in as short a period as possible she will just have to go sailing. I'm sure a girl of her many charms could find many a sailboat in California that would love her to crew on a week-end or a holiday. In the meantime she can read about it here and elsewhere to get a general foundation of understanding. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:41:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. trimmed a lot Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... At least he's not dumb enough to still think you're my sock puppet. Yes, you don't necessarily know what's on the bottom when you go someplace but you can refer to the charts of the area and they will tell you what's on the bottom so you have a good idea beforehand what's the most suitable anchor type to use for a given anchorage. A real cruising sailor will ship multiple anchors so he is ready for any and all conditions of wind, sea and bottom. I carry about seven anchors all told but only have three ready to go at all times. The others are stowed low in the bilges. The others are storm anchors and spare anchors to be used in severe conditions. Ok... so, in another comment you said keeping all the weight on the bow isn't good, so you must put them elsewhere? I would think in the middle of the boat but is there really a place like that. I did say that but everything ends up being somewhat of a compromise on a sailboat. It is not a good idea to have too much weight on the ends but the compromise is it's important to have adequate ground tackle at the ready on the bow. Working anchors on the bow are a compromise but a good and safe one. Any spare or heavy storm anchors, however should be stored low and towards the center of the yacht. Most boats have various lockers and bilge access where a spare anchor or two can be stowed out of the way yet still be not too hard to get to in a pinch. Ready on the bow I have a Danforth Deepset, a CQR plow and a Herreschoff fisherman (this is the only one that looks like a traditional anchor to a lubber). Sized for the boat, the anchors aren't prohibitively heavy. All told, I have about 80 pounds on the bow from anchors/chain/line. With that I'm ready for just about any bottom type. I would be that lubber! LOL I'll have to see what the others look like... Google images is your friend. |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip Exactly. If you're married, you should, well, act married. If you're single, you're single. Have you ever been married? So, who exactly was the woman? LOL You don't have to tell me if you don't want. You're over 18! I was married once when I young. Got married at 21. Got divorced at 27. Never remarried. No kids. Have you ever been married? Woman? What woman. ROFLOL! I was having this same basic conversation with my niece... she's just getting to the age when boys are more than annoying... She told me she wants to "date" this guy from school, but I don't think she really understand the emotional vulnerability that it includes. I told her go slow and bring him home so parents can check him out. Probably "date" has a different meaning for her than for older folks. Didn't you say she was still pretty young? |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:10:42 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. snip I just want to know who the fricken woman was who was on your boat!!! lol Surely, you're not the jealous type? She's the one I mentioned who ran a background check on me to make sure I wasn't some criminal or pervert. She took that video about six years ago now when she came down for a visit. We're still friends. Jealous? Me?? hahahaha... no.. just wondering. What did she find out? LOL Smartass! One good thing about a fit girl who is only 5'5" is it's no har task to take her over my knee and spank some courtesy into her. LOL! It's nice you're still friends... that counts for something! Oftentimes things don't work out for love and romance and living happily ever after but that's no reason to dislike somebody. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:01:24 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Bruce wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce Usually in a bucket in the cockpit locker. Which brings me to a point shackles. The traditional U shaped shackle with a screw in pin verses the flattened O shaped thingie with a screw barrel on one side. I use the latter - a big one. It's quick, simple, no pin to lose and can be done by hand alone. But YMMV? I don't know if I ever thought much about it. A shackle was always a "U" shaped thing with a pin. I think that the other things are actually called a "quick link". But probably serve just as well for attaching an anchor. Cheers, Bruce |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:03:40 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Bruce wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:39:18 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? If you really, really, want a Bruce then pick one out: http://www.viking-moorings.com/Porta...in%20shank.pdf Cheers, Bruce Jeez, Bruce! Nothing smaller than 500 pounds??? One assumes that the user actually wants to stay where he is hitched :-) Freight and shipping is the responsibly of the buyer, of course. Cheers, Bruce |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:57:33 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "HarryK" wrote in message ... snip Couldn't you hear it crying out for you to pick it up? Really now. You have been posting here for two months and you still know squat about boats. Maybe she's not learned a thing from your like because you know NOTHING about sailing? But, you might have inadvertently made a good point, in spite of yourself, Harry. Practical experience is worth way more than book learning. If Jessica is serious about learning as much about sailing in as short a period as possible she will just have to go sailing. I'm sure a girl of her many charms could find many a sailboat in California that would love her to crew on a week-end or a holiday. In the meantime she can read about it here and elsewhere to get a general foundation of understanding. Wilbur Hubbard Don't know who Harry is or what he knows, but he sure is rude. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:38:31 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Jessica B wrote: snipped And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. Stern? Isn't that inconvenient when you need it on the front? Then, you have to bring it up there and attach it? The cockpit is aft. That's were I play most of the time. Our marina is very tight in places. Loss of power, or whatever, might necessitate a quick stop. Hence the stern anchor. It takes ten seconds to deploy. Question back atcha... Why do you have to anchor off the bow? We get a better breeze stern-to. :) I don't know... I always bow forward? lol But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Why not have two different kinds on the bow? And one lighter than the other. Seems like it would give you more flexibility and satisfy your notion that women can't lift heavy objects. :-) |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:01:24 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Bruce wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:14:47 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 14:51:23 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Wilbur Hubbard wrote: "CaveLamb" wrote in message m... Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Weight counts but weight isn't the be-all/end-all. A lighter patent anchor that digs in and buries itself can hold better than a heavy 'navy type' anchor that does not, for example. And, too much weight on the bow can be detrimental to the pitching moment of a small sailboat. Wilbur Hubbard Among my collection of anchors are two Danforth types. One is steel and heavy. The other is aluminum and very light. Both are the same size. What little use I've given them still shows that the heavy anchor holds better. Isn't that sort of obvious? Then why would you carry the lighter one? Lunch hook. It's a lot easier to raise (hey, it's lighter!) My foredeck is strictly female territory. And handy for a 2 point snag. It (the aluminum hook) hangs on a bracket on the stern rail where I can drop it quickly if the need should arise. But the steel anchor is my "best bower". Do you keep the stern anchor rode permanently shackled on? Or, as I used to, store it away in a locker.... somewhere? Cheers, Bruce Usually in a bucket in the cockpit locker. Which brings me to a point shackles. The traditional U shaped shackle with a screw in pin verses the flattened O shaped thingie with a screw barrel on one side. I use the latter - a big one. It's quick, simple, no pin to lose and can be done by hand alone. But YMMV? What happens if you get leaned over a lot? Wouldn't the bucket go flying? I think I'd want it attached... |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:13:26 -0500, "Waldo" wrote:
"Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:19:38 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:05 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Hi Richard, Well, I guess I was concerned that it would be alot of space and weight. Aren't there anchors that overlap as far as use goes? Yes on space and weight. The Rodes especially. I have three now - 250 to 300 feet each. AND chain (need more of that still) That's ALOT of rope!! You must have a pretty big boat! Do tell... Not really for the overlap... A Danforth is good with mud and sand. But it's not great in rocks. Like Wilbur pointed out, a Herrschoff pattern (and a heavy Navy pattern) work well in rocky crags. Fishermen use a mushroom type, but I have no use for that on a sailboat. I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Geeze woman. Weren't you paying attention when the guy on rec.boats was trying to teach you about anchors? I've only looked at that section. There's way to many posts to sort through. I thought I was Capt. Wil??? |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:03:54 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 11:41:46 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... trimmed a lot Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... At least he's not dumb enough to still think you're my sock puppet. Yes, you don't necessarily know what's on the bottom when you go someplace but you can refer to the charts of the area and they will tell you what's on the bottom so you have a good idea beforehand what's the most suitable anchor type to use for a given anchorage. A real cruising sailor will ship multiple anchors so he is ready for any and all conditions of wind, sea and bottom. I carry about seven anchors all told but only have three ready to go at all times. The others are stowed low in the bilges. The others are storm anchors and spare anchors to be used in severe conditions. Ok... so, in another comment you said keeping all the weight on the bow isn't good, so you must put them elsewhere? I would think in the middle of the boat but is there really a place like that. I did say that but everything ends up being somewhat of a compromise on a sailboat. It is not a good idea to have too much weight on the ends but the compromise is it's important to have adequate ground tackle at the ready on the bow. Working anchors on the bow are a compromise but a good and safe one. Any spare or heavy storm anchors, however should be stored low and towards the center of the yacht. Most boats have various lockers and bilge access where a spare anchor or two can be stowed out of the way yet still be not too hard to get to in a pinch. That term... ground tackle... I guess because on the bottom is ground, but it seems like it should be called boat tackle or water tackle. lol Ready on the bow I have a Danforth Deepset, a CQR plow and a Herreschoff fisherman (this is the only one that looks like a traditional anchor to a lubber). Sized for the boat, the anchors aren't prohibitively heavy. All told, I have about 80 pounds on the bow from anchors/chain/line. With that I'm ready for just about any bottom type. I would be that lubber! LOL I'll have to see what the others look like... Google images is your friend. |
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On 2/17/11 6:55 PM, Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:57:33 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: wrote in message ... snip Couldn't you hear it crying out for you to pick it up? Really now. You have been posting here for two months and you still know squat about boats. Maybe she's not learned a thing from your like because you know NOTHING about sailing? But, you might have inadvertently made a good point, in spite of yourself, Harry. Practical experience is worth way more than book learning. If Jessica is serious about learning as much about sailing in as short a period as possible she will just have to go sailing. I'm sure a girl of her many charms could find many a sailboat in California that would love her to crew on a week-end or a holiday. In the meantime she can read about it here and elsewhere to get a general foundation of understanding. Wilbur Hubbard Don't know who Harry is or what he knows, but he sure is rude. That Harryk is an id-spoofing moron from rec.boats. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:09:20 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . snip Exactly. If you're married, you should, well, act married. If you're single, you're single. Have you ever been married? So, who exactly was the woman? LOL You don't have to tell me if you don't want. You're over 18! I was married once when I young. Got married at 21. Got divorced at 27. Never remarried. No kids. Have you ever been married? NO WAY! (I'm way too young for that!) Just kidding.. no never. I probably could get married as long as the prospect never met my brothers... the older one would probably start cleaning his gun in front of him and my other bro would probably gross him out. Woman? What woman. ROFLOL! I was having this same basic conversation with my niece... she's just getting to the age when boys are more than annoying... She told me she wants to "date" this guy from school, but I don't think she really understand the emotional vulnerability that it includes. I told her go slow and bring him home so parents can check him out. Probably "date" has a different meaning for her than for older folks. Didn't you say she was still pretty young? Yeah, she just a baby... early teen going on 38. I should put a pic of her on myspace... she's so amazing really. The absolute sweetest person. |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:15:34 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:10:42 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip I just want to know who the fricken woman was who was on your boat!!! lol Surely, you're not the jealous type? She's the one I mentioned who ran a background check on me to make sure I wasn't some criminal or pervert. She took that video about six years ago now when she came down for a visit. We're still friends. Jealous? Me?? hahahaha... no.. just wondering. What did she find out? LOL Smartass! One good thing about a fit girl who is only 5'5" is it's no har task to take her over my knee and spank some courtesy into her. LOL! You could try and then you'd regret it. I've taken self-defense classes! LOL It's nice you're still friends... that counts for something! Oftentimes things don't work out for love and romance and living happily ever after but that's no reason to dislike somebody. Exactly. I try to be kind to my former romantic partners, but I'm not too successful. snerk |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 15:38:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 12:22:02 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message ... snip I have no idea where the Florida Bay is... is that on the west side? I'm guessing, but it seems like there's ocean all around. Florida Bay is the water between the Keys and the mainland peninsular. Much of it is way too shallow except for canoes, kayaks, etc. It has lots of little mangrove islands. But, closer to the Keys island chain the water is deep enough to sail and the Intracoastal Waterway runs though it. Oh... Fort Jefferson... I looked it up and it looks like it's the same as the Dry Tortugas, which is what I was thinking of... http://www.nps.gov/drto/index.htm That looks beautiful! Can your boat go there? Sure she can. I've never been out there but it would make a nice trip. Probably would take a couple weeks to do a round trip right. According to google maps it's about 60 or 70 miles away? Sounds about right. Well, if the boat sinks, there's always the dinghy! You could rig it with a sail for just in case! I guess you have to be good at navigation! That would leave me out. :-( Jessica, you'd make a good fisherman. LOL! Of course you'd never be left out. I could give you a handheld GPS, chart navigation, private lesson you'd understand in less than five minutes. All you'd have to do is make the cursor (boat) follow the line to the waypoint(s). Bruce in Bangkok might have trouble doing so as he's become somewhat feeble-minded in his dotage but I'm sure you could handle it. I had one of those units in my other car... "Turn left in 1.2 miles...." Maybe they should make one for a boat! Or, you could go due south and go to Cuba! Even I could figure that out! I wish the stupid U.S. government would allow citizens to take a sailboat cruise to Cuba but they don't unless you jump though all kinds of ridiculous hoops. I've looked at the charts and there is some fine sailing to be had along the north coast of Cuba. Looks like thousands of little barrier islands with a bay or sound between them and the big island. Can you speak any Spanish? I know... it would solve a lot of stuff if they were exposed to free enterprise! I guess the Cuban expats are really a strong lobby in DC. Maybe you can claim to be a journalist? I think there's an exception for that. I also heard that things are a bit less restrictive these days, but it might just be for sending money. I don't really follow it much... wrong coast. I took it in high school, but it's been a while. |
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Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:03:40 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Bruce wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:39:18 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? If you really, really, want a Bruce then pick one out: http://www.viking-moorings.com/Porta...in%20shank.pdf Cheers, Bruce Jeez, Bruce! Nothing smaller than 500 pounds??? One assumes that the user actually wants to stay where he is hitched :-) Freight and shipping is the responsibly of the buyer, of course. Cheers, Bruce That outta do it! -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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Try my boat... http://www.home.earthlink.net/~capri26 -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:13:26 -0500, "Waldo" wrote: "Jessica B" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 16 Feb 2011 19:19:38 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:27:05 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: Ok, so I have a sailing question about anchors... obviously there are different anchors for different situations, but you don't necessarily know what you're going to find when you go someplace? So, how do you decide what anchor to take with you? Clearly, as you said, you can take two (or three?) but they must eventually get kind of heavy... I guess there must be guides, but what if you're going to visit several places and they're all different? Hopefully, this question is good enough for Justin! Sheesh... Take them all! And in the end, weight counts. Hi Richard, Well, I guess I was concerned that it would be alot of space and weight. Aren't there anchors that overlap as far as use goes? Yes on space and weight. The Rodes especially. I have three now - 250 to 300 feet each. AND chain (need more of that still) That's ALOT of rope!! You must have a pretty big boat! Do tell... Not really for the overlap... A Danforth is good with mud and sand. But it's not great in rocks. Like Wilbur pointed out, a Herrschoff pattern (and a heavy Navy pattern) work well in rocky crags. Fishermen use a mushroom type, but I have no use for that on a sailboat. I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Geeze woman. Weren't you paying attention when the guy on rec.boats was trying to teach you about anchors? I've only looked at that section. There's way to many posts to sort through. I thought I was Capt. Wil??? We know you are Nom De plume. If you think you are Capt. Wil, then maybe you are him too. Waldo |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:58:27 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Bruce wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:03:40 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Bruce wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 02:39:18 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Jessica B wrote: I was just looking up anchor types... How about a Bruce... but then you'd have to import it from Thailand! LOL (sorry Bruce...) Hey Bruce! Send me one of your anchors? If you really, really, want a Bruce then pick one out: http://www.viking-moorings.com/Porta...in%20shank.pdf Cheers, Bruce Jeez, Bruce! Nothing smaller than 500 pounds??? One assumes that the user actually wants to stay where he is hitched :-) Freight and shipping is the responsibly of the buyer, of course. Cheers, Bruce That outta do it! Years ago there was a little, sort of unofficial, marina started up at Langkawi, Malaysia. As the "marina" was on the west side of the island and pretty well open to the west the blokes that started it cast up some 1 meter cubes of concrete with a big metal ring on the top. Considerable effort was expended to cast these things and get them all arranged in the anchorage. At Last! Typhoon proof moorings! However, as soon as the first guy drug up his anchor and paid the tariff to moor to one of these titanic blocks the problems started. It turned out that the one meter moorings were set in about 4 meters of water.... in an area with 2.5 meter tides. As most of the ocean going cruising boats draw at least 6 feet there was a bit an interference when the tide went out. The solution was to hire a big water pump and spend a couple of weeks jetting the blocks deeper into the mud, and of course that costs money... so they raised the price to moor which caused an immediate exodus. Cheers, Bruce |
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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:59:11 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote: Try my boat... http://www.home.earthlink.net/~capri26 In that movie you list at the bottom of the page. Are you the lead boat or the one that was doing the filming. If you were logging 6.6 K how much wind did you have. The lead boat seems to have only the main and genoa up but there doesn't look like there is much in the way of swells. Cheers, Bruce |
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message
m... Try my boat... http://www.home.earthlink.net/~capri26 IMPRESSIVE AND A WELCOME SIGHT . . . That is indeed, a well-kept little yacht. Pride of ownership in apparent. I particularly like the way you mounted the instruments so they swing out to be viewed from the cockpit. The name and graphics are very fetching. The exterior brightwork is outstanding. The cleanliness is superb. The organization is well above average. Cabin-top traveler is practical and functional. Things I don't like a 1) excessive beam for the LWL (must have a very choppy ride and a bit slow to weather) 2) some of the more valuable space in the boat taken up with the head (I'd gut it and make a library/chart table/storage out of it. A porta-potti is legal for that size boat and bathing can be done in the cockpit. Why allocate some of the most valuable space in a boat to a place one only uses once or twice a day?) 3) no mast steps (it shouldn't take a committee to ascent to the masthead) 4) inadequate/poorly placed anchor cleats (actually they are dock line cleats) 5) useless roll-up headsail (no reason for roll-ups on a 26-footer) 6) that household faucet/electric pump is just plain out of place in a small yacht. You should toss it overboard and install reliable hand pumps. Lose the pressure water system. 7) that one photo with the powerhead almost under water indicates that you need a motor with a longer shaft mounted higher on the transom. 8) vang is upside-down. It would be better to have the line along the deck instead of hanging from above where it is more likely to tangle or snag. 9) oversized self-tailing winch is strictly for show and totally unnecessary for small sails. 10) you'd better actually measure the length of your mast. A forty-foot mast on a 26-foot boat is not even believable. Try about 30-feet and you'd be closer to the mark. But, I suppose I need to view your fine little yacht more in light of her purpose which seems to be week-end cruises on a lake. I suppose many of the items mentioned above can be forgiven for a little yacht in that venue. The dislikes are more a criticism of the yacht were she a coastal cruiser or occasional ocean-voyaging vessel like mine. Wilbur Hubbard |
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Bruce wrote:
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 18:59:11 -0600, CaveLamb wrote: Try my boat... http://www.home.earthlink.net/~capri26 In that movie you list at the bottom of the page. Are you the lead boat or the one that was doing the filming. If you were logging 6.6 K how much wind did you have. The lead boat seems to have only the main and genoa up but there doesn't look like there is much in the way of swells. Cheers, Bruce Hi Bruce, Yeah, we are the lead boat. That's my sweetie. (If you can find a copy of the current Mainsail, check the 26 section!) My friends, Tracey and Charles are in an old Hunter 27 and Tracey was doing the video with a Blackberry. (She loves that evil little thing) They called out the speed from their Speedometer (mechanical) so the 6.6 K claim MAY be taken with a mechanical grain of salt. Or it may have been spot on. I've seen 6.8 on GPS a couple of times. I kept heading up to keep some room between us (they were brand spanking new sailors then) and not run away from the camera. :) As I recall, the wind was about 12 to 15 - pretty steady. We sail Lake Texoma, on the border of Texas and Oklahoma. This is a flood control lake on the Red River Valley. Lakes, even 90,000 surface acres, don't have much swell. :( -- Richard Lamb email me: web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... snip Don't know who Harry is or what he knows, but he sure is rude. More accurately stated - he's an asshole.(Please excuse my French.) And, he knows NOTHING! He's a motorboat week-end warrior, PUTZ! LOL! And, what's worse, there are TWO of them. You have the original asshole and then you have his little butt-buddy frogger. How sad to emulate Harry Krause. Somebody SURE needs to get a life. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Jessica B" wrote in message
... On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 16:09:20 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: snip Probably "date" has a different meaning for her than for older folks. Didn't you say she was still pretty young? Yeah, she just a baby... early teen going on 38. I should put a pic of her on myspace... she's so amazing really. The absolute sweetest person. I saw that you put her pic there and your handsome brother. . . He looks pretty tall and one wouldn't want him smacking you with a baseball bat for sure. I guess you're going to end up being an old spinster. LOL! |
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