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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:53:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

Wilbur = Greg = Capt. Neal. That's common knowledge. I am no "spoofer".
Just
have a couple different NSP accounts in case one or the other goes on the
blink.

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
snipped

Wilbur Hubbard


That really sounds impressive..... but wait a minute, you are talking
about an unlimited tonnage, foreign going, Masters Licence, aren't
you? Master of a VLCC or something like that? Or perhaps the so called
"6-pack" captain's license? The one that only asks you to say that you
have sea time and can be gotten by anyone who knows that Red is Right
(which doesn't server well outside the U.S) is willing to lie about
their experiences...?

Cheers,

Bruce

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:32:07 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:45:51 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:07:49 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:33:15 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:02:08 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

much snipped

Sorry, but I didn't understand even 1/2 of this. Maybe one should not
go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up, short of
being run over by a tanker or something?

Sounds pretty simple. Can you deal with a tsunami arrives with no
warning and kills some 5,000 people in your immediate area? A 60 MPH
squall that hits you at night?

Of course not. A couple of things occur to me. First, I thought a
tsunami was only dangerous near land. If that's the case, then how
could it do damage to a boat that's sailing offshore? Second, it seems
like you should be able to handle high winds. Wouldn't you be prepared
for that? Why are you sleeping when there's a storm going on?

It is what might be called a feat in simplification to say "Maybe one
should not go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up,
short of being run over by a tanker or something?" Actually being run
over by a tanker is probably the least likely thing to happen.

Ok.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:41:52 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
snippage


Sorry, but I didn't understand even 1/2 of this. Maybe one should not
go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up, short of
being run over by a tanker or something?



What a breath of fresh air you are, girl! Short and sweet! No cluttered
thinking. You cut right to the quick. Impressive!


Wilbur Hubbard


Thanks again! I don't believe in clutter in whatever form it takes.

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:53:36 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:50:08 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

I see this all the time. People are suppose to build to proper
standards, which makes sense, but as long as that happens, why hassle
someone over some minor bs? I'm not their fricken mother! It's just
about money. Sorry. On a rant. To address your point, yeah, seems like
there are 15 liberals per sq. ft. around here.

Considering your occupation, you must have it hammered into you day in and
day out how most people these days suffer from a lack of morals and ethics.
Doing a professional/competent job they can be proud of seems to be the last
thing on their minds. Cutting corners and producing a low quality product
doesn't seem to bother them. It's just another example of the degradation
that is liberal thinking.

Yeah, on some level I long for more of the commercial inspection. Some
of those rough and tough construction guys really know their stuff.
It's mostly them keeping the paperwork straight that's the biggest
problem. I'm not an engineer, so it's someone else's ultimate
responsibility to make sure the building doesn't fall down.

snip


Big Brother is definitely here. Nanny state, momma state etc. are all real
these days. Oh, and don't fear the sun. People need sun so their skin can
produce lots of vitamin D which is necessary for just about every bodily
function and even mental health. If one avoids the midday sun and enjoys
the
early morning and late afternoon sun, this skin cancer hyped-up crap is
nothing to worry about.

I'm not worried... I just burn really easily... very fair skin. I'm
not pale during the summer, but I'm don't tan well.


Burning is the worst thing for the skin so you're wise to avoid it.

On the other hand, women (one out of nine of them these days) need to
worry
more about breast cancer than skin cancer. Here's a clue. Stop with the
underarm anti-perspirants and deodorants. It is my learned opinion that
the
rise in breast cancer is directly due to this underarm
deodarant/anti-perspirant fetish.

I try to use natural products vs. that commercial stuff whenever
possible.

:-)


snip

I'm not so concerned with smell/odor as staining the clothes I have to
wear. It's a tradeoff I guess. Fortunately, there's very little
instance of cancer in my family. Just my uncle (throat), but he smoked
like a smoke stack.

Is it plain, natural sweat that stains or is it a combination of sweat and
deodorants that stain?

If it's a simple fabric like cotton (and you wash your clothes
regularly), then it won't stain from a little sweat... it just doesn't
look very pleasant. I mean if it's really hot out, well, that's
life... everyone is sweating, but I don't want to go around with dark
rings around the underarms of my dress or shirt!

Smoking IS gross! People who are addicted to smoking are so pathetic. I just
want to smack them and yell, "WAKE UP!"

It's this me, me, me crap I think. They look so "cool" when actually
they look like morons. How can you not think it's going to hurt you to
breathe in all that crap (I mean LA air) and on top of that breathe in
all cig smoke. Blech..

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:53:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

Wilbur = Greg = Capt. Neal. That's common knowledge. I am no "spoofer".
Just
have a couple different NSP accounts in case one or the other goes on the
blink.

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
the Big Brother bureaucrats decided it was no good without their dumb "TWIC"
card. (Transportation Workers ID card). They wanted me to jump through their
hoops and get finger printed and photographed again and stand in line at one
of their centers for half a day and pay them a hundred bucks more while they
processed forms etc. that were nothing but a duplicate of the forms they had
me fill out when getting the captain's license. What a joke! Make licensed
captains bear the brunt of their terrorist delusions while they ignore open
borders. They can shove their big brother crap against law-abiding citizens
(while they ignore the real terrorists) right up where the sun don't shine.

Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.

I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.

So, you can call me whatever you like. Whatever floats your boat, Jessica.
If I post using Wilbur Hubbard then Wil is just fine. Captain is good to
remind my many detractors of my status. Sweetheart would be good, too. LOL!

I like Captain.. as you say if it's nothing more than to annoy some
people. heh

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:19:19 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:34:19 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
snip


Willie the Pooh doesn't use all that effeminate stuff.... doesn't
****, shower or shave..... at least part of the reason he doesn't have
a girl on that boat (except for the cat).


Maybe I'll invite JessicaB for a little cruise when she needs a break from
the California lifestyle hassle. That girl seems to have ten times more
potential to be a competent sailor than either you or Joe. She sure has some
admirable mental qualities and is no liberal hypocrite like you two.


Wilbur Hubbard


This from a bloke that brags a photo of himself sitting in a tiny boat
petting a pussy?

With pretensions of being a political pundit now? Truly the land of
the fruits and the nuts.

As for being a sailor both Joe and I have at least some reason to call
ourselves a "sailor" as we have both sailed somewhere. Willie-the Poo,
conversely, has never sailed anywhere and rates himself an expert.

Cheers,

Bruce

Well Bruce.. I don't know if you're an expert or what. What I do know
is that the Captain seems to have some clear thoughts and
explanations, whereas you seemed to go on a bit and was confusing.

As to the political stuff... I live in the People's Republic of Santa
Monica. It's pretty out of control... former home to Tom (I'm a
radical) Hayden and Jane Fonda. Don't tell me about the momma may I
state. I live it every day!

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:34:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
snippage

Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.

You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.

ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

snip

And, whatever happened to your kill file? It seems to have as many holes in
it as "Red Cloud's" transom. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


AS I previously mentioned, Willie doesn't have a clue and simply makes
things up. I do not keep a boat in Bangkok (Willie (the master mariner
obviously thinks "Bangkok" is a country), never have. The boat is
presently located at Phuket Island, Thailand. Previously it was at
Langkawi Island, Kedeh, Malaysia, and before that in the Singapore
Straits, where I anchored for three years.

I could regress even more but why bother as Willie-the master mariner
has never been over here, knows nothing about it, and I might as well
be writing Bucuresti, Trieste, or Vladivostok for all he knows.

Cheers,

Bruce

Please don't regress! I think you mean digress.

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On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
snippage

Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.

You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.

ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.


I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce

Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.

Cannibal
 

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:05:01 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
. ..
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:53:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

Wilbur = Greg = Capt. Neal. That's common knowledge. I am no "spoofer".
Just
have a couple different NSP accounts in case one or the other goes on the
blink.

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
snipped

Wilbur Hubbard


That really sounds impressive..... but wait a minute, you are talking
about an unlimited tonnage, foreign going, Masters Licence, aren't
you? Master of a VLCC or something like that? Or perhaps the so called
"6-pack" captain's license? The one that only asks you to say that you
have sea time and can be gotten by anyone who knows that Red is Right
(which doesn't server well outside the U.S) is willing to lie about
their experiences...?

Cheers,

Bruce

Is that what you have? Just wondering.... not trying to start a
fight..

Cannibal
 

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce

Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.


Mine are in the oar bag.


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

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Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:32:07 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:45:51 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:07:49 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:33:15 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:02:08 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

much snipped
Sorry, but I didn't understand even 1/2 of this. Maybe one should not
go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up, short of
being run over by a tanker or something?
Sounds pretty simple. Can you deal with a tsunami arrives with no
warning and kills some 5,000 people in your immediate area? A 60 MPH
squall that hits you at night?

Of course not. A couple of things occur to me. First, I thought a
tsunami was only dangerous near land.

The wave front may only be a few inches (or feet) high depending on the
depth of the water where you are.
But they can move at amazingly high speeds. I've even heard near supersonic.
So the amount of energy involved can be equally amazing.
Enough to roll your boat. Or bust off the keel.



If that's the case, then how
could it do damage to a boat that's sailing offshore? Second, it seems
like you should be able to handle high winds. Wouldn't you be prepared
for that? Why are you sleeping when there's a storm going on?


Believe it or not, sailing can be very tiring.
After a while the body is depleted and you just shut down.

Most of the boats abonded while racing are later found floating - intact.
They were abandoned because the crew was exhausted to the point of having
no other choice.

The crew is almost ALWAYS the limiting factor.

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

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On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce

Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.


Mine are in the oar bag.

Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going?
Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking
out?

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:25:34 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:32:07 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:45:51 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:07:49 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:33:15 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:02:08 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

much snipped
Sorry, but I didn't understand even 1/2 of this. Maybe one should not
go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up, short of
being run over by a tanker or something?
Sounds pretty simple. Can you deal with a tsunami arrives with no
warning and kills some 5,000 people in your immediate area? A 60 MPH
squall that hits you at night?

Of course not. A couple of things occur to me. First, I thought a
tsunami was only dangerous near land.

The wave front may only be a few inches (or feet) high depending on the
depth of the water where you are.
But they can move at amazingly high speeds. I've even heard near supersonic.
So the amount of energy involved can be equally amazing.
Enough to roll your boat. Or bust off the keel.

From what I've read, nobody even knows a tsunami happens in the ocean.




If that's the case, then how
could it do damage to a boat that's sailing offshore? Second, it seems
like you should be able to handle high winds. Wouldn't you be prepared
for that? Why are you sleeping when there's a storm going on?


Believe it or not, sailing can be very tiring.
After a while the body is depleted and you just shut down.

Ok, but wouldn't you have someone to take over while you sleep? If you
get that tired, then maybe you need a shorter trip in better weather!

Most of the boats abonded while racing are later found floating - intact.
They were abandoned because the crew was exhausted to the point of having
no other choice.

No other choice than what? If the boat is still floating, why did the
people leave?

The crew is almost ALWAYS the limiting factor.

I believe you.

Cannibal
 

Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce
Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.

Mine are in the oar bag.

Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going?
Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking
out?


Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter?

--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

Cannibal
 

If that's the case, then how
could it do damage to a boat that's sailing offshore? Second, it seems
like you should be able to handle high winds. Wouldn't you be prepared
for that? Why are you sleeping when there's a storm going on?

Believe it or not, sailing can be very tiring.
After a while the body is depleted and you just shut down.

Ok, but wouldn't you have someone to take over while you sleep? If you
get that tired, then maybe you need a shorter trip in better weather!


My boat sails 6 or 7 knots.
Weather can move in many times faster than that.

With modern weather forecasting we can pick our "window".
But that's no guarantee that the weather guessers will be right

The only perfectly safe way is to not go at all.
And that's just not acceptable.

The oldest prayer at sea still applies...

Dear Lord, my boat is so small,
and Your ocean so big...

Most of the boats abandoned while racing are later found floating - intact.
They were abandoned because the crew was exhausted to the point of having
no other choice.

No other choice than what? If the boat is still floating, why did the
people leave?

The crew is almost ALWAYS the limiting factor.

I believe you.


--

Richard Lamb
email me:
web site: http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb

Cannibal
 

rOn Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:35:45 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:34:52 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage

Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.

You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.

ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

snip

And, whatever happened to your kill file? It seems to have as many holes in
it as "Red Cloud's" transom. LOL!


Wilbur Hubbard


AS I previously mentioned, Willie doesn't have a clue and simply makes
things up. I do not keep a boat in Bangkok (Willie (the master mariner
obviously thinks "Bangkok" is a country), never have. The boat is
presently located at Phuket Island, Thailand. Previously it was at
Langkawi Island, Kedeh, Malaysia, and before that in the Singapore
Straits, where I anchored for three years.

I could regress even more but why bother as Willie-the master mariner
has never been over here, knows nothing about it, and I might as well
be writing Bucuresti, Trieste, or Vladivostok for all he knows.

Cheers,

Bruce

Please don't regress! I think you mean digress.

regress ~ noun rare
1. the reasoning involved when you assume the conclusion is true and
reason backward to the evidence.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:37:26 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage

Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.

You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.

ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.


I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce

Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.

Go down to the harbor and have a look at any row boats that may be
around... or visit a collage and have a look in their boat houses...
Or google "correct oar length". Do you see any of them recommend that
ability to store inside the boat as an important factor in sizing
them.

Kind of like special ordering an outboard engine with a 12 inch
shaft... cause that is the size of the locker you plan to store it in.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 20:26:37 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce

Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.


Mine are in the oar bag.

Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going?
Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking
out?


Ever wonder what the Kayak boys do with their paddles that are about 7
ft. long, and them with a cockpit that is an 18 inch hole in the top
of the boat.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:43:31 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce
Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.

Mine are in the oar bag.

Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going?
Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking
out?


Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter?


Best to lay them lengthwise and sticking out the bow. that way when
you go visiting they sort of fend your dinghy off that hard ol'
fiberglass.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:38:42 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:05:01 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 12:03:28 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 13:53:17 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:
snip

Wilbur = Greg = Capt. Neal. That's common knowledge. I am no "spoofer".
Just
have a couple different NSP accounts in case one or the other goes on the
blink.

Wilbur Hubbard

Oh... ok. So, you're a Captain? That's cool. So, should I call you
Neal or Wil... sort of like Wil, but it's your name.


I even have a USCG Masters license. But, I let it expire last year because
snipped

Wilbur Hubbard


That really sounds impressive..... but wait a minute, you are talking
about an unlimited tonnage, foreign going, Masters Licence, aren't
you? Master of a VLCC or something like that? Or perhaps the so called
"6-pack" captain's license? The one that only asks you to say that you
have sea time and can be gotten by anyone who knows that Red is Right
(which doesn't server well outside the U.S) is willing to lie about
their experiences...?

Cheers,

Bruce

Is that what you have? Just wondering.... not trying to start a
fight..


What I'm doing is trying to get Willie to admit the truth. The license
is one he originally posted to the Internet as belonging to Capt.
Neal, if I remember correctly, and was a 6 pack license, i.e. he could
carry up to 6 passengers for hire. to get one you take a simple
written test and simply say that you have the required days of sea
time.

A very different story from what most people envision when someone
says, "I've got a Marine Master's license."

Jesus, my wife has a better license then Willie, she can captain a
boat up to something like 50 tons. But unlike Willie she doesn't go
around posting a picture on the Internet and bragging about it.

Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 18:05:49 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:32:07 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 12:45:51 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 20:07:49 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Tue, 25 Jan 2011 18:33:15 -0800, Jessica B
wrote:

On Wed, 26 Jan 2011 07:02:08 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

much snipped

Sorry, but I didn't understand even 1/2 of this. Maybe one should not
go sailing if you can't deal with the issues that come up, short of
being run over by a tanker or something?

Sounds pretty simple. Can you deal with a tsunami arrives with no
warning and kills some 5,000 people in your immediate area? A 60 MPH
squall that hits you at night?

Of course not. A couple of things occur to me. First, I thought a
tsunami was only dangerous near land. If that's the case, then how
could it do damage to a boat that's sailing offshore? Second, it seems
like you should be able to handle high winds. Wouldn't you be prepared
for that? Why are you sleeping when there's a storm going on?

snipped.

A tsunami, or any other wave is simply water in motion. Depending on
the length and speed of the wave, the amount of vertical movement is
generally dependant on the depth of the water it is moving in. So you
are correct to say that in deep water they don't have much height, but
simply saying "off shore" isn't a sufficient description as you can be
quite a distance "off shore" and still have relatively shallow water.
in among the S.W. Thai waters, where the Tsunami did the most damage,
waters are generally less then 100 ft.

A "Sumatra", which might be called a line squall in other parts of the
world, is a rather brisk wind that travels fairly rapidly and if at
night generally is bit of a shock.

In the case I mentioned I was sailing north along the E. Coast of
Malaysia on a fine moonlit night with about 5 K. wind. Then, within
only a few minutes it was blowing 60 miles an hour for about an hour.

As in the case of the Tsunami, it has been stated that it is the worst
natural disaster in Thai history. A bit hard to plan for. Squalls
occur, frequently with no warning, certainly not something you can
specifically prepare for other then in a general way that you know it
might blow a bit.

And I don't remember saying I was asleep when the squall hit.




Cheers,

Bruce

Cannibal
 

In article , Jessica B wrote:
No other choice than what? If the boat is still floating, why did the
people leave?

Try this on for size, and then Google for participants own reports: URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Fastnet_race

I don't believe the people in this race were not prepared, nor the boats
in poor condition. The crews were just exhausted, and in fear for their
lives.

Further reading: Sydney to Hobart, 1998.

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
. ..
snippage

Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to go
further.

You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah, right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to fit
inside the boat.

ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits into
the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.


I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce



OK, Brucie-poo, you just are not the authority you seem to think you are and
you are definitely ill-informed as to the matter of length of oar.

Do you know of the highly-respected cruising sailor named Eric Hiscock?

Certainly, you would have to admit that Sir Eric knows a thing or two about
dinghies and dinghy oars. Here is what he has to say about them in "Cruising
Under Sail" page 498:

"Oars ought to be as long as possible, provided they will lie within the
dinghy when not in use . . ."

Uh huh! Just as I said. There, take THAT and ruminate upon your abject
ignorance and laughable arrogance.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip
Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.



Dumb question? Hardly. Smarter by far than these pretend sailors.

Ha ha. You know more about it intuitively than Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok
dock, does. See my post in reply to Bruce's arrogant but ignorant
contentions quoting Sir Eric Hiscock, a world famous cruising sailor whose
writing supports your perceptive observation.

You are a credit to your gender, mam.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
...
snip



Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter?



Spoken like a clueless dolt! An oar or oars sticking out of a dinghy can
catch under the dinghy dock on a rising tide and capsize the boat. Duh! Just
one of the many hazards that are eliminated with oars that fit inside the
length of the dinghy.

Perhaps some of you pretend sailors need to sail once in a while to learn
how things really go down?


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:43:31 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 21:20:12 -0600, CaveLamb
wrote:

Jessica B wrote:
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:47:36 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:39:35 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snippage
Given that I have lived for more than half of my life in Asia I
wonder
where you came up with your misconception that I ever intended to
go
further.
You expect me to believe your goal was a Bangkok backwater? Yah,
right!

But of course you don't have misconceptions you simply make it up,
unfortunately your blathering is simply "ignorance in action'.

Wilbur: The proper length for your dinghy oars is short enough to
fit
inside the boat.
ONE of the attributes of a proper-length dinghy oar is that it fits
into the
length of the dinghy. Get a clue and stop twisting my words.

I hadn't believed that you were actually as stupid as you just proved
yourself. I guess that proves that you should never underrate your
opponents abilities.

The "attribute" of an oar is that it reaches the water..... (Oars
originated for, and are still used today, as a devise to propel a
boat
(through the water). Certainly it may have other attributes such as
weight, shape of blade, material of which it is made, etc, but
fitting
inside the boat is not one of them.

Your argument is about as logical as saying that the mast should not
be longer then the length of the cockpit....because that
is where you want to keep it when you aren't using the sails.

Cheers,

Bruce
Ok... dumb question time... if the oar doesn't fit in the boat, what
the heck do you do with it when you're done using it? If you just
leave it hanging out, it seems to me it would get torn off or damaged.

Mine are in the oar bag.

Ok.. so, what happens when you get to the beach or where you're going?
Seems to me that you'd want to keep them in the boat and not sticking
out?


Why does a couple of feet of oar sticking out of the boat matter?


Best to lay them lengthwise and sticking out the bow. that way when
you go visiting they sort of fend your dinghy off that hard ol'
fiberglass.

Cheers,

Bruce



Wrong again, Brucie Poo. I'll repeat a previous post lest you ignore the
original which proves you to be a pretend sailor.

Do you know of the highly-respected cruising sailor named Eric Hiscock?

Certainly, you would have to admit that Sir Eric knew a thing or two about
dinghies and dinghy oars. Here is what he had to say about them in "Cruising
Under Sail" page 498:

"Oars ought to be as long as possible, provided they will lie within the
dinghy when not in use . . ."


Now, run along and attempt to impress the ignorant dock types and bar types
because you fail to impress those of us who actually sail and remain sober
enough to think straight.

Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip
Ever wonder what the Kayak boys do with their paddles that are about 7
ft. long, and them with a cockpit that is an 18 inch hole in the top
of the boat.


Gosh, but you're sure not ashamed to display your stupidity.

Wake up! We are talking about dinghies as in yacht tenders. Kayak's have
nothing to do with the discussion other than make you appear even more
uninformed than usual.

Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...

snip


Whoa... you're a captain? That's so cool! That says a lot about you...
you have to pass all sorts of background checks if it's anything like
getting even a local government job like mine.


Thanks, I have an excellent security background having had a Top Secret
clearance for security work as a military policeman in the U.S. Army This
is why I am highly insulted being subjected to a government bureaucrat, dog
and pony, jump-through-the-hoops show. This is why I just said, NO! I've
never been arrested for anything. Never even had a speeding ticket. I can
even produce a valid birth certificate. Few, if any of the people who would
have me jump through hoops can claim the same. And, this in the name of
anti-terrorism, which is as much as accusing ME of being a terrorist threat,
while the government ignores actual terrorists and cries and agitates for
releasing them from Guantanamo Bay. Ludicrous!

Yes, and don't listen to Bruce, stuck at the Bangkok dock. He's just envious
of my greater qualifications. I qualified for and was duly issued a USCG,
Master of Steam or Motor Vessels of not more than 25 gross tons upon near
coastal waters; also operator of uninspected passenger vessels as defined in
46 U.S.C. 2101 (42) upon near coastal waters not to exceed 100 miles
offshore, which is way more than Brucie-Poo ever accomplished. Don't be
fooled by those envious people like Joe who claim that near coastal is less
than open ocean for everybody knows near coastal is where the hazardous
sailing takes place. Open ocean is a joke and the realm of autopilots.


I don't get what's going on with the government... all this money
coming in, and the whole infrastructure seems to be falling apart. I
don't mind a few rules, but come on. Especially when it comes to
paperwork. You've already been through the checks, you've already
passed your exam (or whatever), so give the individual a break
already.


Job security for govt. pencil pushers! (no offense, not meaning you because
you actually get out of the office and do productive work).

I like Captain.. as you say if it's nothing more than to annoy some
people. heh


A most wise and excellent choice, my dear.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

On 1/28/2011 7:01 AM, Justin C wrote:
In , Jessica B wrote:
No other choice than what? If the boat is still floating, why did the
people leave?

Try this on for size, and then Google for participants own reports:URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Fastnet_race

I don't believe the people in this race were not prepared, nor the boats
in poor condition. The crews were just exhausted, and in fear for their
lives.

Further reading: Sydney to Hobart, 1998.

Justin.


And just after that report came out, the price of a Contessa 32 doubled!
G

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip

Actually, it's even better than that. His boss and I are sort of lunch
buddies going on a couple of years... it's kind of a long story, but
the short version is that I was on this commercial inspection project
in full "inspector" regalia (hard hat, gloves, steel-toe boots - all
of which were required, but I rarely go on these sites any more)..
anyway.. he ran over my foot in the dirt lot (no damage, just some
bruising) and he's still feels bad about it. I didn't go on workers
comp, which meant I didn't have to fill out a report, so you get it.

So, we're having lunch and I mention about stickers on vehicles...
isn't that against policy? Well, no, it isn't as long as it's
tasteful. So, I said, would it be ok if I put a Support our Troops on
the bumper... no problem. It's going on tomorrow.


I love it! So, what are you going to say to your boss then he tries to
write you up for putting the sticker back on? "You'd better talk to YOUR
boss because he told me it was OK." That'll larn him!



snipped some more

Blinky? I've not heard that term... for a Ham radio??


That's "Binky". You know one of those little fake nipples mothers let their
babies suck on so they don't cry.

http://www.drugstore.com/products/pr...ELAID=61283337


snip

Funny that you mentioned the flat-screened TVs. You'd be surprised at how
often a discussion of flat-screened TVs comes up here. It's so ludicrous
reading so-called sailors REAL priorities - television. Some of them even
have satellite receivers aboard. All the more reason for them to run
smelly
and noisy generators multiple hours each and every day. Anything but
sailing
yet they claim to be sailors.

Yeah, I just don't get it. There are so many things to see and do...
how about some real life!

Don't hold your breath . . . They don't call them 'sheeple' for nothing.



I didn't even have to say PMS! They just assumed.


But, you can only get away with it once a month provided they have halfway
decent memories. ;-)

We do good things most of the time. The commercial people mostly get
it. Don't f*ck with me or your life will be a living hell. (Actually,
they seem to listen to me more than the residential customers.) The
residential ones think they know everything! I had one a couple of
weeks ago.. a diy job. The guy hooked up furness fine, but never
attached the ducting that goes from the air intake to the unit... a
good inch gap - so it was sucking in air from God knows where, so the
chief red-flagged it. I found it, so I got "blamed" by the customer. I
said, hey, would you like me to look around for some more things?

You should get yourself a nice pair of black, shiney jackboots and a riding
crop - really intimidate them. LOL!



Three... whoa! It must take a lot to bring up the big ones... even
just 10 ft. of chain isn't light.




Even with the chain they only weigh about 35 pounds each. That's not much
really. Breaking them out of the bottom, if the holding is good, is the most
work but usually the boat does all that work. Just snub up the chain until
it's straight up and down and let a few waves roll under the hull and the
boat pulls the anchor out of the mud or sand.

The eyes bigger than their stomach crowd with their forty and fifty foot
boats must use anchors bigger and heavier than they can manually weigh -
fifty or sixty pound anchors and lots of heavy chain - so they are forced to
use windlasses which use electricity to pull up the ground tackle. These use
tons of electricity and are very heavy and require heavy wire because of the
high amperage loads. So, where does all that electricity come from? You
guessed it, it comes from smelly, pollution machine diesels generating
electricity at all hours. Overly large sailboats are really stupid, IMO. Any
time a boat is so large that one strong man cannot manually work the various
systems, it tells me it's an exercise in mental retardation on behalf of the
owner.



Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Jan 2011 16:15:16 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"CaveLamb" wrote in message
news:2fSdnfANf6nsBKHQnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...

I guess you didn't notice the
"Twice around the world - by husband and wife"
part?


On the deck of a freighter perhaps. . . Or, more likely they were talking
about their sexual adventures.


Wilbur Hubbard


Heh...



The voice of experience? LOL!

Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip



This from a bloke that brags a photo of himself sitting in a tiny boat
petting a pussy?

A kitty cat is a proper addition to a sailing yacht as they will eliminate
any mouse or rat that might come aboard from who knows where.


With pretensions of being a political pundit now? Truly the land of
the fruits and the nuts.

I have always represented a voice of conservative reason.


As for being a sailor both Joe and I have at least some reason to call
ourselves a "sailor" as we have both sailed somewhere. Willie-the Poo,
conversely, has never sailed anywhere and rates himself an expert.

Wrong! Both of you are demonstrable failures. Only in your liberal minds,
where trying is more important than succeeding, can you fool yourselves into
believing that, since you tried, then your failures are secondary. Talk
about a warped way of thinking.

In the real world, trying is something everybody must do. Trying is not the
goal but only represents the first step towards the goal. If one falls down
after the first step one should not pat himself on the back and say, "Oh
well, that didn't go so well but I'm successful at walking because I tried."
WRONG! If one falls down after the first step, one should say, "Well, I'm
sure a failure at that. But, I can learn from failing so what have I learned
so the next step I take doesn't result in failure all over again?"

You and Joe, being liberal drones, don't think this way. You equate trying
with success. You have set the bar way too low and will always remain
failures because of your liberal thinking that try = success. You are
incapable of learning from failure because you don't and won't man up to
your failures. Such an untenable belief system. I just couldn't live like
that.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 08:19:19 +0700, Bruce
wrote:

On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:34:19 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip


Willie the Pooh doesn't use all that effeminate stuff.... doesn't
****, shower or shave..... at least part of the reason he doesn't have
a girl on that boat (except for the cat).


Maybe I'll invite JessicaB for a little cruise when she needs a break
from
the California lifestyle hassle. That girl seems to have ten times more
potential to be a competent sailor than either you or Joe. She sure has
some
admirable mental qualities and is no liberal hypocrite like you two.


Wilbur Hubbard


This from a bloke that brags a photo of himself sitting in a tiny boat
petting a pussy?

With pretensions of being a political pundit now? Truly the land of
the fruits and the nuts.

As for being a sailor both Joe and I have at least some reason to call
ourselves a "sailor" as we have both sailed somewhere. Willie-the Poo,
conversely, has never sailed anywhere and rates himself an expert.

Cheers,

Bruce

Well Bruce.. I don't know if you're an expert or what. What I do know
is that the Captain seems to have some clear thoughts and
explanations, whereas you seemed to go on a bit and was confusing.

As to the political stuff... I live in the People's Republic of Santa
Monica. It's pretty out of control... former home to Tom (I'm a
radical) Hayden and Jane Fonda. Don't tell me about the momma may I
state. I live it every day!





Atta girl!

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip



Thanks again! I don't believe in clutter in whatever form it takes.



YES!

Cannibal
 

"Bruce" wrote in message
...
snip

And you certainly should know - Willie-the great Walmart Thief.


Urban legend. Returning defective storage batteries for warranty exchange is
not theft.


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

In article , Gordon wrote:
On 1/28/2011 7:01 AM, Justin C wrote:

Try this on for size, and then Google for participants own reports:URL:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_Fastnet_race

I don't believe the people in this race were not prepared, nor the boats
in poor condition. The crews were just exhausted, and in fear for their
lives.

Further reading: Sydney to Hobart, 1998.

Justin.

And just after that report came out, the price of a Contessa 32 doubled!
G

I was going to comment on the Contessa myself, but I thought it might
detract from my point. I've looked at a lot of boats (on-line) and I
haven't found many with a stability curve that comes close to the
Contessa. I'd love one, there's one in a slip just a long from me and
she's in lovely condition, I admire it every time I pass. My wife wants
a Rustler 36, we don't have the budget for either, but you'd get several
Contessa's for the price of one Rustler :-(

Justin.

--
Justin C, by the sea.

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
snip


Yeah, on some level I long for more of the commercial inspection. Some
of those rough and tough construction guys really know their stuff.
It's mostly them keeping the paperwork straight that's the biggest
problem. I'm not an engineer, so it's someone else's ultimate
responsibility to make sure the building doesn't fall down.


Way too much red tape to be sure and it shouldn't be up to the construction
worker to have to deal with that crap. Let the foremen and the office staff
handle it. But, even so, with with govt-run workers comp, every time a
worker gets some sort of injury that needs medical attention it's off to a
drug testing facility for the poor chap. Are the bosses held to the same
standards? Hell no, they aren't. Freaking hypocrites.





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Is it plain, natural sweat that stains or is it a combination of sweat and
deodorants that stain?

If it's a simple fabric like cotton (and you wash your clothes
regularly), then it won't stain from a little sweat... it just doesn't
look very pleasant. I mean if it's really hot out, well, that's
life... everyone is sweating, but I don't want to go around with dark
rings around the underarms of my dress or shirt!

Considering the work you do, you shouldn't worry about a little honest sweat
when you're out in the hot sun. If you go from a hot, dirty work place back
to the office, you should be given the opportunity to shower and change
clothes when you get back to the office setting.



Smoking IS gross! People who are addicted to smoking are so pathetic. I
just
want to smack them and yell, "WAKE UP!"

It's this me, me, me crap I think. They look so "cool" when actually
they look like morons. How can you not think it's going to hurt you to
breathe in all that crap (I mean LA air) and on top of that breathe in
all cig smoke. Blech..



LOL! Morons, indeed. Do you remember the ad campaign where they had various
animals smoking cigarettes and how stupid the animals looked doing it.
Smokers don't realize it but they look even MORE stupid considering they
claim to be more intelligent than dumb animals. I hope you don't stay too
long where you must breathe dirty air 24/7. It will shorten your life for
sure. I hope to live a long time because the air I'm breathing is pretty
darned clean. That's one of the reasons I object so much to filthy diesel
exhaust and the jerks who are addicted to diesels. I value very highly my
health and the clean air I have set myself up to breath. When some jerk
comes along and cause me to breath their pollution I become highly offended
by their oafishness.

You might be able to find an inspectors job here in the Florida Keys with
the water company. They have several inspectors and have job openings from
time to time. Perhaps you should put in an application if and when you get
really sick of California.

http://www.fkaa.com/


Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

"Jessica B" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 27 Jan 2011 11:34:19 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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Willie the Pooh doesn't use all that effeminate stuff.... doesn't
****, shower or shave..... at least part of the reason he doesn't have
a girl on that boat (except for the cat).


Maybe I'll invite JessicaB for a little cruise when she needs a break from
the California lifestyle hassle. That girl seems to have ten times more
potential to be a competent sailor than either you or Joe. She sure has
some
admirable mental qualities and is no liberal hypocrite like you two.


Wilbur Hubbard


Well... thanks. That's very nice of you to say it and the offer.



You're welcome fer sure. . .

Wilbur Hubbard

Cannibal
 

Bruce,

I think you are right about him/her.

His/her mental masturbations are sort of interesting -
for a while.

But it quickly becomes tiresome.

Cannibal
 

On Fri, 28 Jan 2011 10:59:54 -0500, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote:

"Bruce" wrote in message
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Ever wonder what the Kayak boys do with their paddles that are about 7
ft. long, and them with a cockpit that is an 18 inch hole in the top
of the boat.


Gosh, but you're sure not ashamed to display your stupidity.

Wake up! We are talking about dinghies as in yacht tenders. Kayak's have
nothing to do with the discussion other than make you appear even more
uninformed than usual.

Wilbur Hubbard

Changed your tune a bit. Now it is ONLY oars in rubber dinks? A sudden
change isn't it. Before it was "OARS"

But my argument remains. If you are talking about "oars" as apposed to
"paddles" then the determining factor is still that (assuming that you
intend to row with them) is that they reach the water. A flat ended
stick that is too short to use with the supplied locks is simply some
form of paddle; or just a piece of junk.

I suppose the confusion, on your part, is that you have never really
rowed a boat for any period of time and "oars" are simply just another
impediment to be stored in the dink while you motor around the
anchorage with your new outboard.

And you a sailorman too.
..
Cheers,

Bruce