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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok
wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. |
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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
... On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne |
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On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote:
"Wayne.B" wrote in message ... On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. |
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On Feb 25, 1:01*pm, Two meter troll wrote:
On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? Coffee is a very durable cargo green. You can carry alot in a very small space. 20'x8'x8'6" can carry around 50,000 lbs or 40'x8'x8'6" can carry 100 thousand. Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. If you build, will it be steel? Do you have a boat now? I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? Joe |
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On Feb 25, 1:38*pm, Joe wrote:
On Feb 25, 1:01*pm, Two meter troll wrote: On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. *Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? Coffee is a very durable cargo green. You can carry alot in a very small space. 20'x8'x8'6" can carry around 50,000 lbs or 40'x8'x8'6" can carry 100 thousand. *Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. If you build, will it be steel? Do you have a boat now? *I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Forgot to mention, Junks are slow, not that slow is bad all the time, just fast is better. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC2AG...e=channel_page Joe |
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On Feb 25, 1:58*pm, wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 11:55:10 -0800 (PST), Joe wrote: On Feb 25, 1:38*pm, Joe wrote: On Feb 25, 1:01*pm, Two meter troll wrote: On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. *Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? Coffee is a very durable cargo green. You can carry alot in a very small space. 20'x8'x8'6" can carry around 50,000 lbs or 40'x8'x8'6" can carry 100 thousand. *Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. If you build, will it be steel? Do you have a boat now? *I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Forgot to mention, Junks are slow, not that slow is bad all the time, just fast is better. Junks are known for their seaworthiness. They tend to reach their destinations, regardless of what they encounter on the way.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Hi Mike, Yes they are, I checked out many in Hong Kong back in the 80's. Most were over a hundred years old. Very sturdy, first ever to incorporate water tight compartments. Have you heard of Khan's lost fleet? Joe |
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On Feb 25, 11:38 am, Joe wrote:
On Feb 25, 1:01 pm, Two meter troll wrote: On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? probably a bit of both if on the sly you mean taking cargo up to remote places in the arctic for friends that dont have boats to carry bulk goods from the lower 48. ive done that for years. Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? yep its not to bad as long as you go point to point. stopping in the little ports coast hopping is a good way to go broke. Every inspector expects a bit of ba-keesh. Coffee is a very durable cargo green. You can carry alot in a very small space. 20'x8'x8'6" can carry around 50,000 lbs or 40'x8'x8'6" can carry 100 thousand. however Coffee is also a drug smugglers cargo. i would rather not have my cargo ripped apart at every stop. and i don't want a whole passel of mutts on my boat. Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I like building boats this one will be number 7 and the third of over 30 feet. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. http://www.chrisdixonstudios.com/hcs...reenwidth=1024 If you build, will it be steel? not if i am sane. wood Doug fir, myrtle wood and PO cedar specifically Do you have a boat now? yep 3 and more i can lay my hands to. two of those are 28 and 30 foot skin on frame student boats. I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? King crabbing, salmon trolling, Cargo, tendering and oil exploration OBC and streamer. Joe |
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On Feb 25, 2:49*pm, Two meter troll wrote:
On Feb 25, 11:38 am, Joe wrote: On Feb 25, 1:01 pm, Two meter troll wrote: On Feb 25, 9:49 am, "Leanne" wrote: "Wayne.B" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 19:56:15 +0700, Bruce in Bangkok wrote: Out of curiosity, what are you doing with the cargo hold? Heh, good question. You're not going into coffee shipping, are you??? Leanne naa that cargo is not worth transporting by boat its cheaper to fly. the things i am thinking of hauling are durable and costly to fly. I might make less money but i wont have to deal with the authorities trying to shoot me out of the water. all in all a good trade. *Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? probably a bit of both if on the sly you mean taking cargo up to remote places in the arctic for friends that dont have boats to carry bulk goods from the lower 48. ive done that for years. Thats perfectly legal. Alaska is America. Good plan Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? yep its not to bad as long as you go point to point. stopping in the little ports coast hopping is a good way to go broke. Every inspector expects a bit of ba-keesh. Indeed, stopping anywhere you can expect to toss some lan-yap Coffee is a very durable cargo green. You can carry alot in a very small space. 20'x8'x8'6" can carry around 50,000 lbs or 40'x8'x8'6" can carry 100 thousand. however Coffee is also a drug smugglers cargo. I have not heard that. Can you poimt to an example of that? True C.A. is full of drug dealers, and thats the closest source of beans, but ive never heard of that. Someone trying to smuggle an ounce on the boat in a coffee can maybe i would rather not have my cargo ripped apart at every stop. and i don't want a whole passel of mutts on my boat. Well if you stay in the US and haul for friends you should not have any problems what so ever. *Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I like building boats this one will be number 7 and the third of over 30 feet. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. http://www.chrisdixonstudios.com/hcs...s/gallery.php?... If you build, will it be steel? not if i am sane. *wood Doug fir, myrtle wood and PO cedar specifically Ok traditional junk-50 ft= 25 acres of lumber..But the value of the junks in china is the old growth mahogany and teak. Do you have a boat now? yep 3 and more i can lay my hands to. two of those are 28 and 30 foot skin on frame student boats. *I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? King crabbing, salmon trolling, Cargo, tendering and oil exploration OBC and streamer. buuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Joe Joe- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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Are you going to be hauling cargo for hire? Or just trading stuff on the sly? probably a bit of both if on the sly you mean taking cargo up to remote places in the arctic for friends that dont have boats to carry bulk goods from the lower 48. ive done that for years. Thats perfectly legal. Alaska is America. Good plan Have you ever taken a cargo boat with stuff in i'ts hold into another country? yep its not to bad as long as you go point to point. stopping in the little ports coast hopping is a good way to go broke. Every inspector expects a bit of ba-keesh. Indeed, stopping anywhere you can expect to toss some lan-yap however Coffee is also a drug smugglers cargo. I have not heard that. Can you poimt to an example of that? True C.A. is full of drug dealers, and thats the closest source of beans, but ive never heard of that. Someone trying to smuggle an ounce on the boat in a coffee can maybe Maybe but if i know it as a rumor im pretty sure the CG and other inspectors will also. IMO the prevention of suspicion is better than the attention of suspicion. i will be getting the eye at any rate; from the various Homeland security folks in the US better to be as safe as i can. Well if you stay in the US and haul for friends you should not have any problems what so ever. oh i plan on getting around a bit more than that. however running cargo out side the US has its attendant difficulties and i will evaluate those as needed. the various bonding is an issue that is easy for a big company and not so for a small guy. wood Doug fir, myrtle wood and PO cedar specifically Ok traditional junk-50 ft= 25 acres of lumber..But the value of the junks in china is the old growth mahogany and teak. very true. however i have the wood here and the milling operations. if i was to get a boat built in china the only way to pay for the whole bang would be to fill the hull with those exotic woods and sail her home then finish the accommodation's. an aside is that i like myrtlewood fir and port orford cedar. its here its handy and its cheap. well, within reason. King crabbing, salmon trolling, Cargo, tendering and oil exploration OBC and streamer. buuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. its not to bad, winter can get a little bleak (I wintered over a couple of times in the high arctic), summer on the other hand is marvelous. i miss the tundra flowering in spring. get this boat done and we can skip the seasons we don't want to deal with |
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"Joe" wrote in message ... Good luck on the Junk, I would love to have one, but feel they are more suited for near coastal and harbor work. I'd consider Kawlon Harbor and buying vs building new...go with a ming dynasty design. If you build, will it be steel? Do you have a boat now? I saw you mentioned Work boats, what type of work? You could have used some luck, yourself, with your junk (Red Cloud). Wilbur Hubbard |
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