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Brian Nystrom ) writes:

Is this supposed to be a joke? If not, remind me never to board a vessel
that you've built.

talc and flour are used as thickenres in resins. the problem with scented
talc is the smell released when sanding. urea formaldehyde adehsive
(plastic resin marine glue) is sold as a powder which includes either
wheat or rye flour as a thickener.

Every time I see these threads I just puke. Geeze guys, 6 bucks for a
bag of aerosil enough to do three to four small boats, this thread is
just rediculous...Scotty

In my view, Scotty, the issue isn't the six bucks for a bag of commercial
thickener.

I'm still trying to figure out how the guy is going to wash the black carbon
off the tiny beads used in toner. Let's see, open washing machine, pour in
five pounds of toner, one cup of detergent, set wash cycle to "delicate",
run the drain through a super-fine filter to catch the cleaned beads, and
buy five dozen long-stemmed roses to try to placate wife when she sees the
inside of the washing machine has turned black.


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(William R. Watt) wrote in message
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Brian Nystrom ) writes:

Is this supposed to be a joke? If not, remind me never to board a
vessel
that you've built.

talc and flour are used as thickenres in resins. the problem with
scented
talc is the smell released when sanding. urea formaldehyde adehsive
(plastic resin marine glue) is sold as a powder which includes either
wheat or rye flour as a thickener.

Every time I see these threads I just puke. Geeze guys, 6 bucks for a
bag of aerosil enough to do three to four small boats, this thread is
just rediculous...Scotty

Brian, we are being trolled.

Brian Nystrom wrote:

Parallax wrote:

I have been working on Minicup #2 but ran out of colloidal silica
epoxy thickener and do not feel like driving all the way across town
to West marine. So, I recalled some discussions about using talcum
powder or wood flour for this purpose. First, I used some of my wifes
powder till she found out and blew a gasket over it. I checked,
powder is expensive, makes the boat smell funny too. Then, I recalled
cornstarch is used as a thicken er for stews and soups and I had a
little and it worked fairly well. When it ran out, I used regular
flour, it does not work as well but is ok. I wonder if I could mix a
bug killer like Sevin dust with it to help preserve the wood.

Is this supposed to be a joke? If not, remind me never to board a vessel
that you've built.

Jim Conlin ) writes:
Brian, we are being trolled.

Define "trolled". What you are reading may be non-conventional but that is
how progress is made. Many of the advances in boat design and construction
that have made their way into conventional big boat commercial shops came
from the non-conventional small boat projects of amateurs.


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Speaking of non-conventional..................
I have used spay paint to color epoxy to match the pieces being glued.
I just spayed into the mix and stirred it up until I got the desired color.

This was done as a cosmetic 'fix' so the repair would not be visible and it
is sandable without changing color.

Not a marine application, by the way.

Bill

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Jim Conlin ) writes:
Brian, we are being trolled.

Define "trolled". What you are reading may be non-conventional but that is
how progress is made. Many of the advances in boat design and construction
that have made their way into conventional big boat commercial shops came
from the non-conventional small boat projects of amateurs.


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Most progress is made by folks who have both an innovative idea and the
engineering skills and material resources to test it in a rigorous way.
Trolling includes asking fatuous questions like "Can i use dust bunnies instead of

fiberglass?".

"William R. Watt" wrote:

Jim Conlin ) writes:
Brian, we are being trolled.

Define "trolled". What you are reading may be non-conventional but that is
how progress is made. Many of the advances in boat design and construction
that have made their way into conventional big boat commercial shops came
from the non-conventional small boat projects of amateurs.

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Jim Conlin ) writes:
Most progress is made by folks who have both an innovative idea and the
engineering skills and material resources to test it in a rigorous way.

I prefer the kind that start "We were stranded on an isolated island with
nothing but a box of paper clips and a forward hold full of dust bunnies" and
end "Twenty years later and it's never given us a hint of trouble."

I've been taking a bit of flack on the FreeNet for doubting the
advisability of some of the enhancements they've been adding, which have
subsequenlty lead to security problems on our home computers. My response
to "engineers", software and otherwise, is the engineer standing up to his
waist in floodwater seriously explaining how the dam could not possibly
fail.

Trolling includes asking fatuous questions like "Can i use dust bunnies instead of

fiberglass?".

I don't think that's trolling. Trolling is where you post a newsgroup
article for the sole purpose of seeing how many people respond.

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'Troll" or innovator not withstanding,
'Sevin', like just about ALL plant or garden bug/disease 'preventatives' is
TOXIC. While supposedly of no great concern when applied AS it was DESIGNED
to be used, make it airborne as a very fine particulate and THAT is another
story !!

When you mix a fine powder like Talc, etc. into epoxy {etc.}some of it
becomes airborne. We've all experienced that 'little cloud' and thought
nothing of it. Some of it definitely gets inhaled . . . that's why you can
SMELL it. That's the first time.

Secondly, when you are grinding and/or sanding down those lumps, runs, &
fillets . . . you are getting a dose of a combination of particulates . . .
the epoxy, the glass {a 'benign' substance when a solid}, and whatever the
filler material is. Even if you use a mask . . . if you can smell it . . .
guess what that THAT means !?!

There's no reason why you can't 'experiment' with ANYTHING you want . . .
anybody remember how 'Silly Putty' started? Just think FIRST about beyond
the 'immediate' activity.

Regards & Good Luck,
Ron Magen
Backyard Boatshop
{Who STILL has ALL his fingers, toes, hair, etc. HOWEVER, many years ago my
Grandmother warned me about sitting on a cold, hard, marble floor. What she
foretold didn't happen that day, or the next week, or even the next year. It
happened THIS year !! }

"William R. Watt" wrote in message
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Jim Conlin ) writes:
Brian, we are being trolled.
SNIP

William R. Watt wrote:

Jim Conlin ) writes:

Brian, we are being trolled.


Define "trolled". What you are reading may be non-conventional but that is
how progress is made. Many of the advances in boat design and construction
that have made their way into conventional big boat commercial shops came
from the non-conventional small boat projects of amateurs.

I understand what you're saying and I realize that nearly anything
fibrous can be used as a thickner, but I think it's safe to say that
building a boat with epoxy mixed with insecticide powder goes well
beyond the definition of "non-conventional".

Maybe the next time I need to do some fillets, I'll thicken the epoxy
with Metamucil. It's got plenty of fiber and it should help to produce
fillets that are quite "smooth" and "regular". ;-)

Brian Nystrom writes:

Maybe the next time I need to do some fillets, I'll thicken the epoxy
with Metamucil. It's got plenty of fiber and it should help to produce
fillets that are quite "smooth" and "regular". ;-)

That would only work if the fillet were to be extruded. ;-

Steve "beyond the pale, probably..."