"Bill McKee" wrote

I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I not
have right of way over a sailboat?

No, you should hand the paddle over to your Mom and bend over.

SV

"Bill McKee" wrote

Not when he is 15' from me and makes a 90 degree turn in front
of a boat
moving 25 miles per hour. His responsibility requires him to
avoid the
collision and has to keep in a continous direction when being
overtaken.


This guy is scaring me. Wonder where he boats?

SV

"Don White" wrote
Not all sailors are familiar enough with the collision
regulations either.
In your case, sounds like you were overtaking him. You are the
'giveway
boat'. That said, he has a responsibility to give you ample
time to
avoid a collision.

Well, he did, didn't he? Was there a collision?

SV

"Bill McKee" wrote

If your gas engine is running, you are a power boat!


WHEW! That's a relief. I've got a diesel engine. I'd hate to
be labeled a power boater.

SV

"Michael Gardner" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
And what about the power boater that will become a sailboat after he
raises
his sails and turns off the motor. Just because he carries sails, he
should
have all the right of way? I carry a paddle on my powerboat, should I
not
have right of way over a sailboat?

Bill, you really need to read the Rules of the Road section of the
colregs... really.... just read them and get back to us.

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Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that
sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat.

Everyone knows its not a sailboat, but it is most often, a very
underpowered powerboat with limited maneuvering ability, a deeper draft
than the average powerboat and more affected by the wind (even with the
sails down).
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Everyone does not seem to know it is a powerboat. And as to the rest of the
stuff, means nada.

"Jeff" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
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Answer my questions if you can. And refer to the Colregs as to why that
sailboater with the engine running is a sailboat.

Rule 3 (c) The term “sailing vessel” means any vessel under sail provided
that propelling machinery, if fitted, is not being used.

It says "being used" not "running." Big difference. And its specifically
mentions "propelling machinery" implying the engine must be used for
propelling. Would you claim that an engine being used for ballast makes
it a powerboat?

Further, if you're on another boat and see an exhaust from a sailboat that
otherwise appears to be sailing, are you free to treat it as a powerboat?
Of course not, that might simply be a genset.

Sorry Bill, its pretty clear you don't really understand the rules.

Bzzt: You are wrong.

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

You are always wrong.

If I agree, does that still work?




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Depends on the question. Another question for you. Power boat is going
along at 10 knots passing a sailboat. Sailboat takes a 90 degree tack into
the side of the powerboat. Who is at fault?

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:
Such anger. Maybe if you had a real sailboat, you would understand the
Colregs. Oh, thats right you are boatless.

Ok. I'm done with you. It's pretty clear that you're a jerk. You
claimed that you represent the best and brightest of jet-skiers, and
if that's the case, there's really not much else I can say.

Have a great life, and if by chance you get near me with your piece of
crap jet-ski, you damn well better be doing everything by the book.




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Bzzt: wrong again. I never said I was a jetski. My boat has a jetdrive,
but is not a jetski.

"Matt Colie" wrote in message
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Bill McKee wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article t,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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In article . net,
Bill McKee bmckee=at-ix.netcom.com wrote:

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
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Yeah, so? What's your point? I know the regs and clearly you can
quote
them. What are you trying to tell us here?

That you are an idiot.

Ah, a name caller. Well, ok then. You sure won that argument on the
merits.


No, just stating the obvious.

Yes, it's quite obvious what you are and why you're doing
it... PWCER!!!!

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Such anger. And my PWC has 350 CID and 330 hp. Big PWC.

Oh Billy,

What you have is still a little toy boat with the same engine my mother
had in her station wagon.

If it is a powered vessel less that 10kdwt or not over 4khp I won't even
list it my log as sea time.

You really should go take a safe boating course somewhere - anywhere.
In the mean time, if you really want to learn - go to

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/mwv/navrules/navrules.htm

and buy or download a real copy of COMDTINST M16672.2
(by-the-by nothing you have said is supported between the covers.)

A man of much experience once said to me "The only thing required to run
one of those little motorboats is a credit rating."

Matt Colie
Lifelong Waterman and Licensed Mariner (Chf Stm & Mtr, Pilot 10k Grt Lks,
Mst VUS Offshore 100t)

So you are a drunk also.

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Bill McKee" wrote


I know what is involved with sailing. Married a good sailors
daughter and
used to windsurf. But too many "sailors" figure they have the
right of way
as they have a sailboat. I have had "sailors" do a 90 degree
in front of me
when lifting the sails and the iron sail is still running, and
then yell at
me. They would yell even louder if I collided with them and
when they had
to pay enormous sums of money to me.


Is it really *that* hard to turn a steering wheel, Bill? Do you
have wimpy limp wrists?

SBV




Nope, but you expect other boaters to also be aware of their surroundings.
And not make unexpected course changes. You ignore all other boats around
you. You remind me of the sailor who decides to turn with no signal and
ends up paying several thousand dollars to repair my F-I-L's sailboat.