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Dazed and Confused says:
He was, however, rude. And then follows it with : why don't you quit ? Pot. Kettle. Black? |
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Stephen Baker wrote:
Dazed and Confused says: He was, however, rude. And then follows it with : why don't you quit ? Pot. Kettle. Black? Perhaps (I choose kettle) . Your rebuke is well taken. However, P.C. can find any excuse to promote cyberboats. I am only surprised that he did not fold 3-D onto the discussion. -- I'd rather put more life in my days than put more days in my life...... |
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Dazed says:
I am only surprised that he did not fold 3-D onto the discussion. heh heh! So was I ;-) Steve |
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Terry,
I try NOT to 'assume' ANYTHING !! My reasoning for the response was simply that a LOT of people a) DON'T have a since of reality, and b} feel that if 'something' is read on the internet, it *must* be real. A local Club I recently joined {one the Delaware River in the Philadelphia area - in existence since the Civil War}, is so EMPHATIC about safety that they INSIST that members or visitors {ESPECIALLY children} wear PDF's even on the floating DOCK !! While my background started in Atlantic City, NJ, and has a few years of 'sea time', it is not quite as 'adventurous' as yours. However, I don't get your comment about . . . "You guys are making me wonder about the boat building community." I may not build as many boats as some others, or have a HIN 'assigned' to my shop, but I am familiar with the concept of 'Peculinary {spl?}Liability' and how litigious our society has become. In addition there is the simple and general concern for the safety of the 'sport' of 'water-borne activity'. I don't want to get into a discussion of how 'PC' it has become to get the 'Government' involved in EVERY aspect of people's lives - just because no one seems to want to accept the concept of 'Personal Responsibility for Personal Activity'. I didn't intend to insult anyone, if I did, I apologize . . . but not for my comments to the 'general readership'. I don't mind this type of discussions; my only regret is that it can't be continued face-to-face over a pot of good coffee, or some chilled wine. Regards, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Ron Magen" Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 14:59 Subject: Where can I find info? Reality is is known to me since I was raised in Key West and had boats in the Atlantic since I was 11. My dad and I built a 14' Skiff which was amongst many of the boats we owned unfortunately at 10 you don't really appreciate the experience. Also, I did more than a few days on shrimpers and crawfish boats pulling traps. I also spent many hours with the Mel Fisher family on their boats since I went to school with his sons. Unfortunately, I wasn't interested in designing/building a boat and saw it as employment and social adventure. I may ask a dumb question or two but don't assume I know nothing of boats You guys are making me wonder about the boat building community. Terry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Magen" Newsgroups: rec.boats.building Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:37 AM Subject: Where can I find info? Steve, Maybe not a joke, but if this guy is for real . . SOMEBODY has to get through to him about REALITY. I've seen people who have no concept of physics, or common sense, over load a small boat BEYOND 'dangerous'. It's one thing when they are rather fit people & their kids . . . there is the possibility of survival re-boarding a flipped or swamped boat. On the other hand, I helped a gentleman get his wife aboard a 20 ft. {or so} powerboat . . when she went over the side AT THE DOCK. She was TWICE his size, and he was of average fitness & size. I helped by showing & telling him WHAT and HOW to do it. Although he had already gone into the water {leaving two small children aboard} he could NEVER have pushed her aboard. If it had happened 'in a seaway' or out on the Delaware {with it's 6-7 knot current} they would probably BOTH have drowned. NEITHER was wearing a PFD. Whether they ever purchased, or made, the emergency rope 'ladder' {I used an extra dock-line}, I don't know. Hopefully the experience stuck with them. I DID give them a stern 'safety lecture'. As to their feelings; several days later we went to check on our P-19, there was a nice bottle of wine, with a bow around the neck, sitting under the cockpit cover. Regards, Ron Magen Backyard Boatshop {all 225+ pounds of him} "Stephen Baker" wrote in message ... Joseph Stachyra says: is this posting a JOKE..... I don't think so. But you better hope he doesn't find out what part of Tunkhannock you hail from....... I know it's not "cool" to be PC any more, but it is still rude to poke fun at folks' weights. Steve "Stephen Baker" wrote in message ... Dazed and Confused says: He was, however, rude. And then follows it with : why don't you quit ? Pot. Kettle. Black? |
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I didn't intend to insult anyone, if I did, I apologize . . . but not
for my comments to the 'general readership'. I don't mind this type of discussions; my only regret is that it can't be continued face-to-face over a pot of good coffee, or some chilled wine. it is tragic they way it is going. I've just left my college and I've (unofficially) offered my services to the boat club for repair of rowing craft and to help out when they attend regattas. I can't offer it officially, even though as a student I could do all the above, as a non-student I'm a massive risk. I know that school trips will shortly become impossible because nobody can take the risk of a private action being brought against them. People had to be brought to account for incompetence and idiocy to make sure that (for example) trips were properly thought out. But too much of it now is all about the money. As my boss says of two lawyers he knows: "What a dirty way to make your money" because as he sees it, you're doing your job when the guilty are set free and the innocent are punished, making money out of human misery. All of which is getting far from the point, which is that the necessity of watching your backside all the time detracts from the pleasure of such sports and interests as ours. I have to be slightly careful when ringing round friends to organise canoeing trips, and god forbid I should crash my car while giving someone a lift... ....anyone have any thoughts on how to rediscover sanity? Al |
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