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What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without
someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe |
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What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... |
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On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe |
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On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote: Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe If you're having roll up failures maybe you need to get your furler rig upgraded....without a furler it sounds like a mess...BTW...are you having that dead sea preoblem where you're at because of all the unusual heavy rains in Texas flooding the Gulf and keeping the oxygen levels low? They had a blurb on the tube the other night (May have been CNN) where an ocenaographer was talking about the shrimp industry possibly suffering, along with some of the commercial fishers.... |
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On Aug 3, 12:55 pm, katy wrote:
Joe wrote: On Aug 3, 12:34 pm, katy wrote: Joe wrote: What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Roll up the forward sail to where it won't interfer and tack on the foresail attached to your jib boom...then let out the foresail when the tack is nearly completed.... I'd rather feed it around by hand then risk roll up failure at sea, no jib boom...yet. Guess I could use block and tackle from the bow to the fore foresail clew in the same way. Joe If you're having roll up failures maybe you need to get your furler rig upgraded....without a furler it sounds like a mess...BTW...are you having that dead sea preoblem where you're at because of all the unusual heavy rains in Texas flooding the Gulf and keeping the oxygen levels low? They had a blurb on the tube the other night (May have been CNN) where an ocenaographer was talking about the shrimp industry possibly suffering, along with some of the commercial fishers....- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Well the baby shrimp are being washed out of the grasslands a bit young I suspect, but I don't really know how it's affecting the shrimp season. I may have to run to Roseys and see..sounds good for dinner. We have had 18 inches of rain in the last 30 days. The local weathermen are comparing the history of heavy rain in July and are tying it to major hurricane strikes here in Texas. In 1900 they has a similar rainy July and Galveston got wiped out, same when Camellie and Alicia years. Most likely they are just grasping straws. Knock on wood. From Da news: After a rather wet July, the National Weather Service said the threat of late season hurricanes should be a concern for Southeast Texans. Meteorologist Jim Sweeney said the Golden Triangle has seen more than twice the normal amount of rainfall for this time of year and is caused by a weaker high pressure ridge in the Atlantic. "What it does is swing like a conveyor belt all the moisture right into Texas," he said. "The upper level low pressure is a like magnet on moisture." Sweeney said the NWS always tells people to have their emergency preparedness kits ready because it is never too early to prepare. "Review your tropical preparedness information, check to see if you have enough batteries, cash on hand, drinking water and at least a half a tank of gas," he said. Sweeney said recent high level easterly winds concern him, but any tropical development at this time would cause more trouble for the Windward Islands of the Lesser Antilles than the Gulf of Mexico. "The trajectory would take it (tropical formations) to the Yucatan if anything develops," Sweeney said. "But ultimately, something could develop if the water temperature increases like it does in the later summer months." The NWS meteorologist said to minimize tropical activity, he would like to see westerly winds in the tropics to keep any formations from developing. However, the rain Southeast Texans have seen during the week will continue due to favorable upper level dynamics. "Beyond Friday, the forecast calls for less rainfall, but everyone should keep an eye on the weather at least a week in advance," Sweeney advised. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Slowly, with just enough to finish the tack. If you ease the lines as the jibs are luffing, then you should be able to pull the forward of the two sails through the space between the two forestays, especially with a 100% jib (or smaller). The jib sheets are going to be an issue, so you'll need more than one person doing it. As long as you don't have a lot of tension on the jib, you shouldn't have significant abrasion on the sails. If I could, I'd furl the jib in front, as Katy suggested, tack, then unfurl it. I can't imagine having that much sail up in heavy air, so unless there's something wrong with the furler, it shouldn't be an issue. Of course, there's always the possibility of failure, but there's a lot less chance with careful observation/maintenance. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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"Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard |
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"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message anews.com... "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Excuse me, I was in a hurry and just noticed I made a boo-boo. The last paragraph should have read: 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the topsail. If the sail is recalcitrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. WH |
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On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard"
wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe |
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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com... On Aug 3, 2:36 pm, "Wilbur Hubbard" wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... What's the best way to tack when yer flying two headsails without someone on the fore deck feeding the forward forsail around the aft forsail stay? Ya follow me? Say a 100% on both forestays. Joe Joe, please excuse the amateur advice from the Bozo roll-up crowd. They're not sailors in the conventional sense. Last time I looked at pics of your boat it has sensible hank-on sails. The procedure for tacking a cutter has nothing to do with roll up sails. Here's how it's done. And, please note the correct terminology. It just kills me that you don't know it. I expect ignorance out of Katy and Ganz but I thought you were a sailor... 1) tacking a cutter rig requires patience. The topsail must squeeze through the narrow space between the forestay and the staysail. 2) you may wish to install a tacking line to help the foot of the topsail along. 3) tacking a cutter rig well is simply a matter of adopting a systematic approach. The smaller staysail should be tacked first, the topsail goes last, after the mainsail. Because the topsail is backed at this point, "it goes through fast with a pop once the weather sheet is released. Take care to pay out the weather sheet fast but smoothly so as not to have it knot itself and possibly snag on the hanks of the foresail. If the sail is recalictrant, try an application of silicone spray. Also it is very important to have no sharp edges on the staysail hanks. They should be sprayed with silicone as well to reduce chafe. I hope this helps. Wilbur Hubbard Helps.. Thanks. I'm installing the inner forestay soon, It's been in the gear locker for a long time. Joe Strongly suggest you don't follow his advice too closely... Neal probably hasn't sailed in years. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
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