Boob****, I don't know why you posted additional pictures along with
your crying. You stated the first pictures were "the exact sails" and
they were about a foot shy of full hoist. Are you going to tell us the
black band is in the wrong place? The sailmaker ****ed
up..........sorry and that's why somebody got you to buy them. Did you
hoist them before you paid? Sucker.

35s5 POS

Ringmaster wrote:
Boob****, I don't know why you posted additional pictures along with
your crying. You stated the first pictures were "the exact sails" and
they were about a foot shy of full hoist.



Wow! Look how bitter and ****ed off you are! You're still saying the
hoist is short after I posted pics showing the exact same hoist on two
more 35s5's??? Oh boy...don't let photos sway you...they must ALL be
short on the hoist! And it's the same on mine.
You must be really stewing!!! Face it, slowco. I have the faster newer
nicer boat and have sails nicer as well. The main is sitting right here
and you'll crap a school bus when you see the pics!


RB
35s5
NY

You're still saying the hoist is short after I posted pics showing
the exact same hoist on two more 35s5's??? Oh boy...don't let photos
sway you...they must ALL be short on the hoist! And it's the same on
mine.

Boobster, the photos you posted show the main at least a foot short on
the hoist, period. That is unless you are going to tell us somebody
put the black band in the wrong place on both boats. Highly unlikely.
You paid exactly what those sails are worth to a knowledgable
person..........Half price.

35s5 bringing up the rear

Boobster, the photos you posted show the main at least a foot short on
the hoist, period.


Just ignore the photos, Sloco!
Do you know WHY the hoist ends where it does???? There's a specific
reason. Hmmmm.....could it be due to the backstay???!!!!
Look again, dopey! We already measured the hoist when the sail came as
we are also adding batcars.
Have a look at Footloose, Sloco....or don't!!!!

http://home.att.net/~captnerdo/images/Footloos.gif

Lord, you must be DYING that I've got these sails!!!! BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHA!
At least you're not too ashamed to show it!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Boobster, the photos you posted show the main at least a foot short on
the hoist, period.

Just ignore the photos, Sloco!
Do you know WHY the hoist ends where it does???? There's a specific
reason. Hmmmm.....could it be due to the backstay???!!!!

Huh? Could explain just what the backstay has to do with the length of
the luff?

Cheers
Marty

Huh? Could explain just what the backstay has to do with the length of

the luff?


Martin, the headboard has to able to clear the backstay at the top of
the mast. My headboard cannot go to the very top of the groove because
it would foul the backstay. My Kevlar main has a bit more roach than a
standard main, so she'll actually have more Sq. feet than the standard.
Got it? I posted 4 photos so far showing the true hoist, which is about
a foot or so below the top of the mast. Sloco actually (see his posts)
that ALL of these boats have mains with the wrong hoist. I have the
original Beneteau main in my sail-locker and the hoist is the same as
the Kevlar sail.
Like I said, Sloco sure knows boats! If he had quickly googled up a few
pics he would have spotted his mistake. Now I get to blast him for it
forever!


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote:

Huh? Could explain just what the backstay has to do with the length of

the luff?

Martin, the headboard has to able to clear the backstay at the top of
the mast. My headboard cannot go to the very top of the groove because
it would foul the backstay. My Kevlar main has a bit more roach than a
standard main, so she'll actually have more Sq. feet than the standard.

If I understand this, you mean that if you hoisted the main originally
supplied by Benny, then the headboard would hoist to the black band on
the mast? No main hoists to "very top" of the groove, that I know of,
which is why that black band is on the mast, manufacturers take the
headboard/roach/backstay into account when they put that band there.

Cheers
Marty

Huh? Could explain just what the backstay has to do with the length of
the luff?



"Capt" Rob wrote:
Martin, the headboard has to able to clear the backstay at the top of
the mast.

That's why there's a little piece of metal sticking out of
the back of the mast at the top, to fasten the backstay to.

In fact it is so well known (by people that sail in the real
world, as opposed to the Matrix) that Hall Spars features it
on their logo
http://www.hallspars.com/Nav_Images/btnLogo.gif

This is called the 'crane' and any headboard should easily
clear it.

Modern boats with a lot of roach often carry a springy piece
of fiberglass across the top of the mast to 'pluck' the
backstay out of the way when there is less tension on it.
http://www.vanvlietzeilen.nl/foto/melges24.jpg
http://www.northsailsod.com/class/me...-Marseille.jpg

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

My headboard cannot go to the very top of the groove because
it would foul the backstay. My Kevlar main has a bit more roach than a
standard main, so she'll actually have more Sq. feet than the standard.

Got it? I posted 4 photos so far showing the true hoist, which is about

a foot or so below the top of the mast. Sloco actually (see his posts)
that ALL of these boats have mains with the wrong hoist. I have the
original Beneteau main in my sail-locker and the hoist is the same as
the Kevlar sail.
Like I said, Sloco sure knows boats! If he had quickly googled up a few

pics he would have spotted his mistake. Now I get to blast him for it
forever!


RB

So what are you saying here Boobie ......... Beneteau designed the rig
and put the black band in a spot that required a main with a teeny
headboard and no roach? You sure can come up with some good ones.
Face it all the boats in the photos you posted have mains that were cut
too short. The black band is no where near the top of the mast groove.
It's easy to see in the photos that the designer DID leave room above
the black band for the headboard. Give it up dimwit you are the one
who's busted.

Boobster, the photos you posted show the main at least a foot short on
the hoist, period.


Yup....and I posted 3 pics showing the same hoist point....and mine is
the same. So you're maintaining that the hoist is short on ALL 4 BOATS,
right???

You SURE know boats, Sloco!



RB
35s5
NY