The best minivan is the Toyota Sienna AWD, Scotty. Second best is a
tossup between the Honda and Sedona. The Honda has many many reported
problems. We'll have to see how the Sedona does. We brought the new car
back to Kia service today to have the remote starter and GPS NAV added
(Both thrown in with the deal). While we were there they double checked
everything and didn't like how one of the folding seats was working, so
they adjusted that as well. Everything took about 90 minutes, which is
about the shortest time I ever waited for auto service. We're pretty
impressed.

As for the hybrid idea...we still want to get one, but will wait to see
if more AWD based versions arrive soon.


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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The best minivan is the Toyota Sienna AWD, Scotty. Second best is a
tossup between the Honda and Sedona.

Once again you've believed what you *want* to believe, not what may or may
not be fact. One or two published sources don't constitute the gospel about
anything. Hell, the Sedona may be the best damn vehicle on the face of the
Earth, according to a given publication, but that doesn't make it so.

Did you drive the Toyota and the Honda before you bought the Kia? Of course
not. The Kia is cheaper and since you were able to find some published data
that supports what you want to believe, that was sufficient.

The Honda has many many reported
problems. We'll have to see how the Sedona does. We brought the new car
back to Kia service today to have the remote starter and GPS NAV added
(Both thrown in with the deal). While we were there they double checked
everything and didn't like how one of the folding seats was working, so
they adjusted that as well. Everything took about 90 minutes, which is
about the shortest time I ever waited for auto service. We're pretty
impressed.

As for the hybrid idea...we still want to get one, but will wait to see
if more AWD based versions arrive soon.

The Toyota Highlander 4wd is the best hybrid available today. Too expensive
for ya?

Max

One or two published sources don't constitute the gospel about
anything.

One or two? Max, I thought you were into cars? All sources cite the
Sienna AWD as king of the minivans. The Honda also has the # 1 or 2
spot depending on your needs. Until the Sedona was released nothing
else was even close. EVERY review now lists the Sedona as a top pick as
well....but not ANY others. Please go look at a Nissan Quest and get
back to me!

Did you drive the Toyota and the Honda before you bought the Kia?
Of course
not.

I drove a Sienna for 2 months last year. It was the FWD version and
it's the best minivan made, period. As for the Honda, we test drove it
last week. The reason we didn't buy the Honda is a HUGE number of
problems reported. Read the forums.

The Toyota Highlander 4wd is the best hybrid available today.

We have the van because it's a true seven seater. Please try the back
seats on the Highlander and get back to me!

Too expensive
for ya?

Yeah, that must be it! I knew I shouldn't have paid cash for the boat.

RB
35s5
NY

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports over
the years to Edsels, Henry J's, Hudson Hornets, AM Motors, Studerbakers.
Where are they now? Ah Yes I forgot to mention the wonderful De Soto!

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports


Car Magazines are a joke and always have been. Consumer Reports is
probably the most laughable when it comes to cars and electronics. But
web based reviewers and forums are allowing for a LOT more research
tools for just about anything. With enough owners reporting in, you can
get an idea about how good a product is. I've found this a very
effective buying tool. That and the fact that my yard owns a repair
center for cars also gives me a good idea of what's substandard. You
just can't dismiss any of these car companies any more. They are all
better than the big three and eating them alive.

RB
35s5
NY

Thom Stewart wrote:

It seems to me, I remember both CR & Motor tend giving good reports over
the years to Edsels, Henry J's, Hudson Hornets, AM Motors, Studerbakers.
Where are they now? Ah Yes I forgot to mention the wonderful De Soto!


Studebakers were (still are) great cars. I have a friend who
has owned an Avanti for decades.

DSK

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What are you telling me for? I'm knot a soccer Mom.

Bwahahahahahahahahah

SV

Soccer Mom....Bwahahahahahahhahahahahaha ROTFLMAO..

Roberts got a suit that fits to the tee!

Joe

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What are you telling me for? I'm knot a soccer Mom.

Jelious?

Max

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The best minivan is the Toyota Sienna AWD, Scotty.
Second
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What are you telling me for? I'm knot a soccer Mom.

Jelious?


Yulp.

SV