Bwahahahahahahahaha a KIA...OMG ROTFLMAO

Rob's a soccer mom in a "KIA" bwahahahahahahahahaaa.

Joe

Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes, paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
ups.com...
Yep, we decided to buy a minivan so my wife could car-pool with other
nurses and I could also carry boat stuff more easily than our smaller
cars....The 2006 Kia Sedona is an all new minivan designed to go head
to head in the 30-40K luxury minivan segment. This has very little in
common with the old 2005 Sedona.

Full review-2006 Kia Sedona EX
Yes, you'll need to get past any stigma associated with the Kia name.
Kia is climbing the ladder just like Honda and Audi did years ago and
gaining respect as their cars improve. We checked out the Honda and
Toyota entries and the Kia just seemed to do everything as well and in
some cases better. The handling of the Kia is certainly up there with
the Honda, perhaps a hair better. Power is excellent. This van is
probably faster than it needs to be. I've read 0-60 reports of 7.1 and
7.3 seconds and even prior to break-in the van feels very quick. Build
quality appears to be quite good with nice fit and finish.

Our fully loaded example has power sliding doors and a power rear
hatch. If you have kids these come in really handy and are fun to show
off as well as all 3 doors open and shut smoothly via a button or the
keyfob remote...cool!. The doors will sense an obstruction and open if
need be. They can also be operated manually. Locks prevent a child from
opening them from inside of course.

Inside you get a full leather interior in gray or beige. Go with the
gray as it will wear better. Front seats are 8 way and 4 way power. The
driver's seat is a bit short on legroom for taller drivers. I'm 6.3 and
would like another inch or two. There's no reason for a seat to be
short on legroom on a large van. Passenger and rear seats have a LOT of
room. Even the split bench fully aft is pretty good and the middle
seats will also slide forward making this true 7 passenger vehicle.
Make no mistake about it; this is a pretty luxurious interior by any
standard. We found the Honda a bit more stark, but the Odyssey and
Sienna are equally plush when fully loaded.

The rear seats tuck away into a storage well, but the procedure is a
bit awkward and could use some refinement. Overall it works okay. When
the seats are out the well is a great place combined with the cargo
net, but some sort of retractable cover would really be nice to hide
gear. With seats down there was room to carry a friend's full racing
sail inventory, 8 sails for a C&C 38 and plenty of room to spare for 5
passengers.

The loaded EX also comes with a killer Infinity stereo/DVD rear seat
entertainment system. I know it's a cliche to refer to a sound system
in a car as "killer" but you really need to hear the 13 speaker system
in action to realize how much better it is than any other. The top of
the line Honda and Toyota don't even come close. The flip down DVD
screen is a mere 8 inches. I consider that size adequate, but others
are larger. On the other hand, unlike the larger screens, the Kia's
doesn't block as much of the rearview mirror so it's a better tradeoff
for safety. The system also has IR remote control and IR fed headphones
that work well and very comfortable. Popping in a copy of Star Wars III
I was treated to true 7.1 Surround sound. The center channel is mounted
in the middle of the dash, a bit away for the rear seats, but it works
very well. The picture quality is typical for these systems, but many
people will hear sound that is superior to their home systems. There is
depth, clear highs and fairly impressive midrange that surprised me and
I'm someone who's owned stereo systems costing 9K. It's that good. On
the other hand, you can question the logic of such an elaborate system
in a car. A lesser system like the ones from Toyota or Honda are still
"just fine." But as long as Kia is giving them away, I'll keep mine!

On the port side of the cabin are jacks for plugging in a camcorder, or
X-Box type game system. Amazingly Kia neglected a Ipod/Sat. radio jack
up front and you'll need to correct that at your local stereo shop for
aftermarket help. Also missing at this luxury level is integrated
navigation/GPS, but expect that on the next year's model. Buy a Garmin
I5, as we did and you'll do just fine.

Unlike many other vans on the market, the 2nd row large middle windows
actually power down! This is a very welcome feature to say the least.
The rear windows also wing out with the press of a button. 2nd road
passengers no longer have that bus window feeling.

The 3rd road is less comfortable than the 2nd of course. These are
seats that fold down into the floor and the only seats to do so on
board. Kia's research showed that most people never stowed or removed
the second row, so they left those as fully comfortable chairs with
armrests. The 3rd row, because it's stows in the floor, is inherently
less comfortable, but they really aren't bad at all. 3rd row passengers
get cup-holders, a small storage bin and the inputs for video game
consoles.

Each row of seats has port and starboard AC/Heat vents and the second
row has it's own dedicated controls for temp and fan speed. Shotgun
gets dual AC/Heat controls so the driver and passenger don't compromise
and heated seats with 5 way settings. Very nice.

There are really too many little extras in vans of this size and luxury
level to list here. The fully loaded Kia Sedona for 2006 also gets
memory seats/mirror/pedal, homelink controls for the garage, backup
proximity sensor, power sunroof, 2 way adjustable headrests, fold away
snack tray, and quite a bit more.

Back to Driving the Sedona....it is not quite like a car, but close
enough that an hour or two of driving will have you pretty well
acclimated. Acceleration is strong at almost all points of the
powerband due to a healthy amount of torque. On the highway the ride is
quiet and subdued. Wind noise is well controlled. I'm certain that the
new Sedona is quieter than my Subaru Tribeca and that's quieter than a
Lexus RX330. At cruising speeds above averages that most people would
drive this van, the Sedona remains composed. Fast lane changes are not
a problem, but steeper turns produce a bit more body roll than I'd
like. There are moments when the Sedona will remind you that it's
actually a 2 ton plus van and not a car. You must learn when those
moments are likely to come up.

For the driver all of the controls are well laid out and we've come to
expect this from most imports compared to the often terrible American
made entries. Kia has essentially hit the nail on the head with the new
Sedona for drivers, passengers and of course kids. When our two year
old has a toy crisis, my wife can get to the 2nd row and take charge
with ease. This is something our SUV could not do.

Parking the Sedona is something that will take practice if this is your
first minivan. This is not a small van and the driver is well up front.
Still, exhibit some confidence when you park and use the aft proximity
sensor. When reversing it beeps faster and faster as you approach an
obstacle. When it becomes a steady tone you're about 15 inches away. It
works great.

Because I've not broken the engine in I can't report on the MPG yet.

If you have a small child, a fully loaded 2006 Sedona EX will make for
a lot of smiles. I believe that the Honda and Toyota are also fine vans
and you really can't go wrong with them either. I don't like ANY of the
American entries or the Nissan Quest for whatever that's worth.

The warranty on the Sedona is 5 years overall and 10 for the
engine/powertrain. That's good news so long as it doesn't have too many
problems. Trips for dealer service are never any fun free or not. Only
time will tell how well constructed Kia's first entry in maxed out
minivan segment really is. The matching warranty from Toyota or Honda
will cost you 1500 more and still won't cover everything the Kia
warranty does.

With Kia's current rebates and some aggressive shopping we got our
fully loaded EX for $27'950. That included the 1000 rebate and a
graduate rebate of 400 dollars as well. That's an amazing price when
you look at a Sienna optioned out the same way which is around 5-6K
more. Kia also threw in two years worth of free oil changes, free
remote starter and a second remote for the DVD player. In a few months
I'll update this and let folks know what "new car bugs" turned up
(There are always a few) and how Kia service dealt with them here in
NY. This will be a great car for getting friends to the boat in one
shot.
Cheers!

Capt RB

Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes, paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


New 2006 Sedona has yet to be reviewed by Consumer Reports, but there
are plenty of other reviews for it, such as...

Sedona Lands a Kockout
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Ki...oad-test/1563/

Ideal Mini
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/06sedona.htm

Dominating the Mini-van Market
http://www.epinions.com/content_218869698180


RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes, paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


New 2006 Sedona has yet to be reviewed by Consumer Reports, but there
are plenty of other reviews for it, such as...

Not true. I got my info from consumer reports website. 2006 Sedona.

Not true. I got my info from consumer reports website. 2006 Sedona.



CR has not yet reviewed the 2006 Sedona. The review is set for Sept for
the 2007 version will is identical except for a few extras.


RB
35s5
NY

Good Luck Nutsy;

Hope your new Ride is a success for you and Susy and Thom!

What happened with the "Hybrid" Car &
Sail Bit?

By the way Nutsy, I have a Windstar with 81,000 miles. Only had to
replace Tires, brakes and a fuel pump.

My Dog "Jazz" loves the damn thing. She's claimed it as her own. I'm
allowed to drive it but its her car. We both love the damn thing.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

2006 Sedona EX

MSRP $26,265
Invoice 24,370
Dealer Cost $23,659
- Dealer holdback 711
Adjusted Dealer Cost 22,948

"
Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes, paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


New 2006 Sedona has yet to be reviewed by Consumer Reports, but there
are plenty of other reviews for it, such as...

Sedona Lands a Kockout
http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Ki...oad-test/1563/

Ideal Mini
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/06sedona.htm

Dominating the Mini-van Market
http://www.epinions.com/content_218869698180


RB
35s5
NY

that's a lot of money for a '' grocery getter''.


"jlrogers" wrote in message
et...
2006 Sedona EX

MSRP $26,265
Invoice 24,370
Dealer Cost $23,659
- Dealer holdback 711
Adjusted Dealer Cost 22,948

"
Capt. Rob" wrote in message

oups.com..
..
Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except
for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes,
paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


New 2006 Sedona has yet to be reviewed by Consumer
Reports, but there
are plenty of other reviews for it, such as...

Sedona Lands a Kockout

http://car-reviews.automobile.com/Ki...006-kia-sedona
-ex-road-test/1563/

Ideal Mini
http://www.canadiandriver.com/articles/pw/06sedona.htm

Dominating the Mini-van Market
http://www.epinions.com/content_218869698180


RB
35s5
NY

"jlrogers" wrote in message
om...
Gets extremely good marks from Consumer Reports, except
for fuel,
electrical, air conditioning, suspension, brakes,
paint/trim, body
integrity, body hardware, and comfort.


None of those things are important...it's got sliding doors
MAN !

MSRP $26,265
Invoice 24,370
Dealer Cost $23,659
- Dealer holdback 711
Adjusted Dealer Cost 22,948


There is no such thing as a fixed dealer cost due to incentives. Also
the price shown is for the base EX. We have the fully loaded version
with power package, RSE DVD Infinity stereo 7.1 system, luxury package
with leather and so on.

We paid below invoice of course!

http://autos.yahoo.com/newcars/kia_s...0F?source=nctd


RB
35s5
NY