Much nonsense about whether Lake Michigan is a lake or a sea, has been
written here over the years.

I would like to settle this debate for once and for all.

Here are some photos that depict conditions in real seas.

http://www.arendnet.com/atlant4.htm


I think that we can agree that conditions like these cannot be found on
"Lake" Michigan!


Regards


Donal
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Donal wrote:
Much nonsense about whether Lake Michigan is a lake or a sea, has
been
written here over the years.

I would like to settle this debate for once and for all.

Here are some photos that depict conditions in real seas.

http://www.arendnet.com/atlant4.htm


I think that we can agree that conditions like these cannot be found
on
"Lake" Michigan!


It's a front Donal, Fronts cross the Sea of Michigan all the time.

Sea conditions look quite calm in your picture.

Best guess is there are around 5000 sunken ships in the great lakes.
It may not be a sea but it acts like one at times.
Joe




Regards


Donal
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you may want to look at more than just the 1st picture.
gf.


"Joe" wrote in message
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It's a front Donal, Fronts cross the Sea of Michigan all the time.

Sea conditions look quite calm in your picture.

Best guess is there are around 5000 sunken ships in the great lakes.
It may not be a sea but it acts like one at times.
Joe




Regards


Donal
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"Joe" wrote in message
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It's a front Donal, Fronts cross the Sea of Michigan all the time.

Sea conditions look quite calm in your picture.

This from the man that can see everything on his RADAR.


Way to go Joe!

100 foot waves are "quite calm"! Bwahahahaha!!



Regards

Donal
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"Donal" wrote in message

100 foot waves are "quite calm"! Bwahahahaha!!

The biggest waves ever witnessed on Lake Michigan were estimated to be
around 75 to 80 feet. The biggest on Lake Superior were estimated to be
about 10' higher. Rare? Yup, but they can occur. And when they do the
brief spacing between them is what destroys ships. I've been in 30s in the
Caribbean, and I'd much rather have those than 10 footers on Lake M. or Lake
Erie.

Max

Sorry my machine was set on 1/8 of a mile and I only saw the first
photo.

Great pictures, I like the one of the stern shot of the Supply Boat
almost standing up on end. You know anyone in the forward bunkrooms
where either flying up to meet the overhead or shattering teeth when
the bow slams down.

And the oh **** drawing behind the pictures is cool as well. Nothing
like having your whole boat underwater.

Joe

Cool series of pics.

Cut the Mustard has sailed in conditions like that
many a time and has had less difficult a time than
those ships.

Small yachts under sail ride like a duck up and down
those waves and don't get pounded like those ships.

CN


"Donal" wrote in message ...
Much nonsense about whether Lake Michigan is a lake or a sea, has been
written here over the years.

I would like to settle this debate for once and for all.

Here are some photos that depict conditions in real seas.

http://www.arendnet.com/atlant4.htm


I think that we can agree that conditions like these cannot be found on
"Lake" Michigan!


Regards


Donal
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"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Cool series of pics.

Cut the Mustard has sailed in conditions like that
many a time and has had less difficult a time than
those ships.

Small yachts under sail ride like a duck up and down
those waves and don't get pounded like those ships.

. . . and the occupants of those small yachts get tossed about their cabins
like socks in a clothes dryer.

Max

Not so! Those huge waves have little effect upon a small
yacht under a reasonable press of sail to keep her stable.

Of course, in those conditions, the yacht will be sailing
off the wind so the period of the waves becomes longer.

The properly sailed small yacht will only be bothered
but the breakers atop those huge waves. Those breakers
tend to slosh green water into the cockpit, I have found.
One must always keep the washboard in and battened
down.

Those idiot motorvessels seem to be pounding straight
into the waves which seems stupid to me. Why don't they
fall off a bit and take the waves diagonally. They would
have a smoother ride and might even be able to make
some headway.

CN

"Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net...

"Capt. Neal®" wrote in message

Cool series of pics.

Cut the Mustard has sailed in conditions like that
many a time and has had less difficult a time than
those ships.

Small yachts under sail ride like a duck up and down
those waves and don't get pounded like those ships.

. . . and the occupants of those small yachts get tossed about their cabins
like socks in a clothes dryer.

Max

Great Lakes:

They are Lakes! They are huge bodies of water! Bigger than a lot of
seas! Can be very tough in a bad weather! That doesn't make them
anything but a Lake.

They are not at sea level. They have no tides. The flow of water is
always in the same direction, The outlet is always the same. That is
because they are Lakes.

Why must they be classified as a Sea? They are Lakes. Lakes to be damn
proud of! They are superior Bodies of Water, with their own weather
systems. They have their own ship traveling commerce that is busier than
most seas in the world.
They are a wonder of nature as they are.
What have they to gain by being labelled a sea?

Ole Thom