On 15 Jun 2004 13:08:54 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap:

"Horvath" wrote in message
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On 15 Jun 2004 04:22:27 GMT, "Scott Vernon" wrote
this crap:

Cause I'm lazy? It WAS blowing hard all morning, it had just calmed down
some, so I had Lisa steer while I went to unshake the reef, grabbed the
camera and went forward to take the pic.

Bad answer.

Why?
Are you taking away my points?


The water is flat. The wind had died long ago. You were sailing in
dead air for a long time with a reefed main.


I would have taken out the reef long ago.


Why? We were CRUISING, not racing. Also we were running w/the wind all
morning so the main wasn't 'doing much'.

You have no concept of how the rig works.





Pathetic Earthlings! No one can save you now!

The water is flat. The wind had died long ago. You were sailing in
dead air for a long time with a reefed main.


You mean when the wind falls of, sea state stays the same for a long while???
Never saw that! Wind dies, sea follows quite quickly.

RB

Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


several sources of weather reports,


name them.

SV


NOA broadcasts, commercial radio weather reports, computer weather
reports (check in the morning before leaving), TV weather broadcasts and
continuous radar scan display.

Jim

Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You are an idiot. Why don't you get two wheels and some electric winches.

Sorry to offend you Jonathan. Perhaps you shouldn't spend any more time
following my notes and responding to them, if reading them is going to
introduce all that stress. - Actually, it's rather easy to just skip
right on by them and move on to some of the other discussion strings.

Jim

katysails wrote:

Katy, I'm not sure you have a proper appreciation for the great
traditions and history of sailing through the years.

Ah, but I do, we sailed with only a compass, and then only a compass and
radio for years....If any of the hitorical figures you mentioned had
instruments, they might have been better off, known where they were going,
and foreseen problems.


Well, apart from monitoring the weather reports, we also sailed with
only a compass and some charts for many years. I was doing fairly well
with dead reckoning on several trips.

Jim

DSK wrote:

Jim Cate wrote:

Interesting. - Doug said that the wind speed might have been as much
as 10-12 knots. Why do you criticize my estimate of the wind speed but
not his, when he wasn't even there?


Because whitecaps usually begin forming around 8 knots and are regular
at 10. If a doofus like you notices them then it might be blowing as
much as twelve, but it still could only have been eight.

If motorboat wakes are bigger than the chop, then the wind wasn't
anywhere near 20.

DSK


You might want to read my note again DSK. I didn't say that the
whitecaps were "beginning" to form. They were there when we went out and
stayed there throughout the afternoon. (Incidentally, my copy of the
Beaufort scale indicates that crests are "beginning to break" in winds
of up to 10 knots. - You must have a different version.) Also, I didn't
say that the motorboat wakes were "bigger" than the chop, did I?
Incidentally, my estimate of the wind speed was also based on the
opinion of an experienced licensed pilot who was with me on that
particular trip.

As one reference point, we noted that very few of the boats out on that
day had deployed anything other than a reefed mainsail.

Jim

So, what the meta message that you're trying to get across is that you
are not much of a sailor, with a lousy boat. Got it. Thanks.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:

You are an idiot. Why don't you get two wheels and some electric
winches.

Sorry to offend you Jonathan. Perhaps you shouldn't spend any more time
following my notes and responding to them, if reading them is going to
introduce all that stress. - Actually, it's rather easy to just skip
right on by them and move on to some of the other discussion strings.

Jim

Wow. What a pro.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
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katysails wrote:

Katy, I'm not sure you have a proper appreciation for the great
traditions and history of sailing through the years.

Ah, but I do, we sailed with only a compass, and then only a compass and
radio for years....If any of the hitorical figures you mentioned had
instruments, they might have been better off, known where they were
going,
and foreseen problems.


Well, apart from monitoring the weather reports, we also sailed with
only a compass and some charts for many years. I was doing fairly well
with dead reckoning on several trips.

Jim

You forgot the most important one.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Jim Cate" wrote in message
...


Scott Vernon wrote:

"Jim Cate" wrote


several sources of weather reports,


name them.

SV


NOA broadcasts, commercial radio weather reports, computer weather
reports (check in the morning before leaving), TV weather broadcasts and
continuous radar scan display.

Jim

I don't think I can buy your argument, Katy

Jeff, it's not my argument..it's Jim's...I agree with you...
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katysails
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