"Bobsprit" wrote in message
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I suppose that might be the case: you triviallized all of evolution
by simply saying, "I thought about it, and it doesn't work."

Consider that he also thought about buying a sailboat AFTER owning a
powerboat....and bought a Beneteau.

Good one, Bob. 10/10!




Regards


Donal
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
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"Donal" wrote in message
[snip]
If we all agreed with with your reasoning, then we would be still stuck
in
the dark ages. We would not engage in any scientific research because
the
task (gap in our knowledge) was so huge.

Why do you say that? Do you only work on problems where the solution is
trivial? I suppose that might be the case: you triviallized all of
evolution
by simply saying, "I thought about it, and it doesn't work."

Quite the opposite.

I've actually thought about it ... and the evolutionary theory doesn't add
up.

If you assume an average 13 years between generations, then you cannot
produce Homo Sapiens in the available time.

Try it yourself!



Regards


Donal
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wrote:


I think you are more than slightly mixed up. I am against the war in Iraq. I
think the president of the U.S. is a toady for the oil companies, and hasn't
uttered a truthful word about the "war on terror", which is altogether a big
sham. We had Russian Nukes pointed at us for 40 years, and we didn't need a
"Patriot Act", or a department of homeland security or any of this other
nonsense to deal with it.



A good point.

Cheers

In article , Donal
wrote:

"Peter Wiley" wrote in message
. ..


Donal's desperately trying to drag a red herring across the thread.

Peter! You must be one of the dullest persons on the planet!

Yep. That's 100% true.

What is wrong with a bit of discussion? Have you no sense of *FUN* at all?

Lots, just I covered this sort of crap 30 years or more ago.

You really need to relax a bit! .... Honestly.

As I said WRT herrings.........

BTW Donal, did your God create the entire fossil record, fake
radiocarbon dating and create the appearance of plate tectonics, or do
you accept that these things happened over millions of years elapsed
time?

PDW

In article , Joe
wrote:

"Capt. Mooron" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message |
| We know time travel is possiable if we can go faster than light.

No Joe... we definitely don't "Know" that.......

|
| Physics 101 boobsie, did you skip class?

Bob probably didn't finish high school.... neither did I!

So what, Neither did I. at 16 9th or 10th grade I joined the US Navy.
Like you I was bored to death.


Don't base your assumptions of intellect on the schooling offered in your
country.... it's been proven to be very unreliable.

No kidding.



I'm more than willing to discuss any topic with you Joe.... I have a grade 9
education. Do you think I'm stupid?

Never said you were, my comment was to boobpimp.

I just passed an interview described by
my peers who failed it as a grueling 45 minute interrogation.... I was
accepted and awarded the position in 15 minutes. They have diplomas inn
Engineering..... I have only field experience and am self taught.

Thats great, many corporations will not even talk to you without a
degree.


I agree 100%. Daily I work with some of the countrys leading
engineers. I own a recruiting firm and place them with many of the
USA's fortune 500 companies.

I've learned that many times a Phd stands for Piled higher and deeper,
some are total idiots.

Bwahahahahahahahaha! You got *that* right! I used to have a self-taught
software designer working for me, brightest one I'd ever had. She had a
high school education but wasn't afraid to think and learn. Had a
newish PhD working for me too, he was quite put out that she got paid
more than he did. Told him she was better value and all a degree proved
was you had the time/money to stay at school long enough to get one.

PDW

Donal wrote:

I've actually thought about it ... and the evolutionary theory
doesn't add up.

If you assume an average 13 years between generations, ...

"I have never heard any answer to that question that isn't predicated on
assumption."


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"Donal" wrote in message
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
Why do you say that? Do you only work on problems where the solution is
trivial? I suppose that might be the case: you triviallized all of
evolution
by simply saying, "I thought about it, and it doesn't work."

Quite the opposite.

No, that's exactly what you're saying. Or are you claiming that you're a
biologist qualified to critique the work of thousands of your colleagues.


I've actually thought about it ... and the evolutionary theory doesn't add
up.

If you assume an average 13 years between generations, then you cannot
produce Homo Sapiens in the available time.

First of all, most mammals come to maturity in a year or less. Smaller mammals
are often even faster, and more primitive lifeforms may have many generations in
a year. You may have an argument that several hundred thousands generations
seems short for our development from "Lucy" (I would still differ), but the
lower lifeforms have had billions of generations. When you consider what we've
done with dogs in just a few hundred generations or so, I can easily believe
that there's been plenty of time for us to have been created by evolution.


Try it yourself!


OK, another set of examples. All of the plant and animal species that we now
called "domesticated" are quite different from their wild predecessors. All of
these new species "evolved," largely as an accident of interaction with human
culture, in a time span of less then 10,000 years. Actually, many occurred in
less than 1000 years - Wheat for instance (IIRC) evolved quickly because several
naturally occurring mutations were very compatible with human cultivation.

Jeff Morris wrote:
OK, another set of examples. All of the plant and animal species that we now
called "domesticated" are quite different from their wild predecessors. All of
these new species "evolved," largely as an accident of interaction with human
culture, in a time span of less then 10,000 years. Actually, many occurred in
less than 1000 years - Wheat for instance (IIRC) evolved quickly because several
naturally occurring mutations were very compatible with human cultivation.

Or, in the case of the Pekinese dog, we have definitely influenced
evolution to produce a creature that Nature would never could have, for
reasons that nobody can explain.

DSK

Doug stated:
in the case of the Pekinese dog, we have definitely influenced
evolution to produce a creature that Nature would never could have, for
reasons that nobody can explain.

Kagogi, anyone?
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"DSK" wrote in message
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Jeff Morris wrote:
OK, another set of examples. All of the plant and animal species that we
now
called "domesticated" are quite different from their wild predecessors. All
of
these new species "evolved," largely as an accident of interaction with
human
culture, in a time span of less then 10,000 years. Actually, many occurred
in
less than 1000 years - Wheat for instance (IIRC) evolved quickly because
several
naturally occurring mutations were very compatible with human cultivation.

Or, in the case of the Pekinese dog, we have definitely influenced
evolution to produce a creature that Nature would never could have, for
reasons that nobody can explain.


Funny you should mention that - there was a study of Canine DMA published
recently that was looking at the "distance" of various breeds from their wolf
ancestors. There were some obvious results, like huskies and other sled dogs
are "original" breeds, but they also found the Pekinese are an ancient breed,
and one that as billed as an "ancient Egyptian dog" (I forget the name) was
developed in the last few hundred years.